Crunch Time! For Steemit, Devs, and Witnesses.

markwhittam (66) · 7 years ago

Good one @kevinwong!
I agree, they need to sort the sign-up process out, I'm getting loads of people to join but half of them are saying that they have been waiting a month with no luck!

A few have even said it was months ago, it's as if some of these new people have been completely blanked.

I have been signing people up through the back door with blocktrades but this cost me everytime, not only do I pay the 4.4 steem but I usually buy them 10 steempower because they can't even upload a profile picture with 4 steempower.

Its a joke and they need to sort it out, it's not as if it's a new problem.

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idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

Hey Mark,

Go here: https://v2.steemconnect.com/accounts/create
No fee to create the account. If you create an account with 3 steem it goes straight into the account and you can delegate SP at the time of creation so your friends can work straight away.

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kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago (edited)

What? Can't upload profile pic with 4 SP? Come on.. if it's a cost vs performance issue on tight budget, then it's understandable. I hope it's not witnesses trying to cut too much corners. Maybe I'm sounding like an arse here xD

Edit: tbf, I think need to look into that 4 SP claim, I've never heard of this though, along with completely blanked accounts.

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markwhittam (66) · 7 years ago (edited)

Yeah! I remember when I opened my second account with blocktrades a few months ago, I Upvoted a few people and made a comment, this destroyed my bandwidth and I couldn't do anything.

So I sent some SBD from this account but it wouldn't let me exchange it on the market, so I sent some steem, no, I couldn't even power up the Steem. So I went back to blocktrades and purchased some steempower, what a fucking mission and Ive been on steemit for nearly a year, can you imagine a newcomer having to go through all that? I'd give up and go back to Facebook.

Don't get me wrong, steemit has been good to me and It has a lot going for it, but it's not gonna go mainstream if they don't fix these issues.

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denmarkguy (76) · 7 years ago

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, @kevinwong.

You make a number of important points, but I think we need to look at the greater "story" here, which seems to be that Steemit has lost focus; lost direction — maybe even lost its sense of identity.

What IS this place? It set itself up to be a social content site, but as of late it seems more like its a gateway for developers to build something SMT based. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but you can't drive the sort of traffic needed to become a top-250 site on the promise "this is a great place to develop an app!"

As a content creator, I'm not seeing much happen here. Mostly what I am seeing is that the "human greed gene" is alive and well and running rampant. And then I am seeing a bunch of "apps for Steem/Steemit."

That might "sell" if you're a developer of blockchainiac. However, I doubt it'll "sell" to a general social media user. Who cares? We have a cumbersome interface; it's 2018 and I'm hard coding pages ("posts") in HTML to get them to look nice. We have almost no filters to sort content, so finding anything is a mess. I have 3700 followers-- I just wish I could "organize" them into tiers, or by interest, or by frequency of visit... LIKE YOU CAN on twitter, Farcebook and elsewhere. Why can't we have something really simple like a photo album?

And then there are all these really worthy apps-- but why can't we drop them into a sort of "frame" so the user home page has buttons/links to Dtube, Zappl, Dsound, Steepshot-- to not only increase EASE OF USE, but to create some "cross-pollination?"

Why do I say all this?

Because it's an awesome idea to smooth out the onboarding process, but just WHAT are we onboarding all these newcomers INTO? Let's, for grins, say that we can suddenly onboard 50,000 people a day. That's AWESOME! BUT... what are they going to find here? An attractive, intuitive, easy to use social content and blogging site?

WHOMEVER is running this show-- be it STINC, a team of developers, the witnesses, or the community-- we need to do some serious "housecleaning."

Encourage Manual Curation Whether we need to go back to 50/50 rewards or not, I'm not sure. But something needs to be done to encourage interaction and engagement... to make it more attractive than automation and bots. On self-upvoting: a simple solution-- you're welcome to self-upvote, but self upvoting drains your voting power 5x faster than voting for someone else. On Upvote bots: don't outlaw them; simply CLEARLY label any post with a purchased vote "Promoted Content" or "Sponsored content" just like other social media sites do.

I think this place is awesome, but we need to KEEP it awesome! Think of it a bit like a garden: You can't make it better by just adding more and more plants-- you have to make sure the plants you ALREADY HAVE are thriving. And they are not-- judging by how few active users we have, we have a retention problem. THAT might be a good thing to work on. And if we're (hypothetically) going to sign on 50K new users a day? Let's START by giving them a REASON to want to STAY here and become loyal "pitch people" for Steemit!

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kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

but you can't drive the sort of traffic needed to become a top-250 site on the promise "this is a great place to develop an app!"

Unlikely, although I wouldn't discount that it could be a possibility. With currency, the game is not as straight-forward as content sites like medium and aeon.co, but I guess anyone able to solve this will likely solve one of the biggest "problems" the steem ecosystem has.

And then there are all these really worthy apps-- but why can't we drop them into a sort of "frame" so the user home page has buttons/links to Dtube, Zappl, Dsound, Steepshot-- to not only increase EASE OF USE, but to create some "cross-pollination?"

I think plenty of these lack-of-hub problems will be solved with the upcoming steemconnect dashboard, for discovery, identity, etc.

Encourage Manual Curation Whether we need to go back to 50/50 rewards or not, I'm not sure. But something needs to be done to encourage interaction and engagement... to make it more attractive than automation and bots.

Agreed. Curation activity should be promoted by supporting and replicating the @curie model, imo.

On self-upvoting: a simple solution-- you're welcome to self-upvote, but self upvoting drains your voting power 5x faster than voting for someone else. On Upvote bots: don't outlaw them; simply CLEARLY label any post with a purchased vote "Promoted Content" or "Sponsored content" just like other social media sites do.

Don't think the act against self-upvoting is necessary, especially after changing the rewards-curve. As for bots, I'm right with you, there's just no way to outlaw or ban them anyway. Labelling makes sense.

By and large, community and interactions are what makes it stick, although we do need to encourage quality posts, especially those voted up into trending or find themselves in that position (either by buying votes or otherwise). It's a public shared space that represents the platform (and hopefully also reflective of the best it has to offer), so anyone there ought to step up and make it look good and participate socially for the rest.

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kartiksingh (65) · 7 years ago

Yeah steemit need more development..even after 2 years we don't have a good mobile friendly app. I told my cousin about steemit and he ready to join it but sign up process is not working ...OTP they are sending for mobile number verification is not arriving. Sign up process still take long to accomplish. They just change logo in two years. Steemit Inc and witnesses should consider your suggestions for steem success.

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lordjames (62) · 7 years ago

First, let's start with the song. You almost got me dozing off. The song is just beautiful, I felt bad when it ended, I never knew 3.31min could be that short.

Okay, music done. I don't have much to say as some of your suggestions are above my knowledge. But on the issue of new users onboarding, I believe that should be given priority attention. I almost lost interest after waiting for two weeks for approval. I have had friends who waited a whole month and nothing till I have to use Steeminvite to create an instant account for them. There's that spirit that comes when you first make up your mind about something and delay is a great motivation slayer. I hope this issue will be addressed soon.

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

Greta post, Kevin. One of the biggest challenges we face is recognizing how some actions impact multiple things. Onboarding done wrong could increase spam and bandwidth issues. Increased blocksizes with so much known spam going on could cause even more spam and not solve the bandwidth issue. The blockchain is already quite large, and we don’t want to hit physical hardware limitations for full nodes if we don’t take blockchain bloat seriously.

I could go on and on. More marketing now would mean more problems if we don’t solve them first and prepare for mass adoption. Rewards tweaking when much if the problems we see relate to content discovery which may actually be solved via communities is another example of a tweak we could make but we’re not clear yet if it will actually solve a problem or introduce a new one. This is challenging stuff, but I think many smart people are up for the challenge.

I’m still on vacarion, but even here I’m trying to follow this stuff so we can keep moving forward and be making progress. If that means learning C++ and submitting my own pull requests, I will, I’m just not super clear on exactly what the best path forward for some of these issues are other than the long-term core blockchain retooling Steemit is working on with appbase. From there, we can hopefully seriously tackle these other problems from a long-term thinking perspective and not quick bandaid fixes. It’s difficult stuff, for sure. If we don’t pull it off, we’ll lose out and rightfully so. Let’s work hard to avoid that fate.

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edje (69) · 7 years ago

How will content discovery be solved with communities? We need filters! We need to get rid of Trending and Hot channels. It is soo easy, and it takes so much time to get something in that area, but then I hear/read the magic word communities again! But nobody is able to tell what feature it will have; If even the Steemit UI will have features, or somebody else need to build the UI. With Trending and Hot in communities, we will have Steemit on smaller scale in the communities.

As Kevin pointed out, we need a changing in vote culture.

I don't want to scare people, but one thing is for sure: Steemit will get competition, and my gut feel says it is closer by in time than you want to believe.

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kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago (edited)

In my mind, communities will be better for curation as people subscribe to their favourites, and anything out of scope wouldn't be considered. It's just like subreddits, but of course, with some difference due to bc implementation. The features can be checked on Github. But yeah, agree about the filters/search functions. Upvoted to get more opinions on it.

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edje (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

Indeed Communities may be a better way to bring likeminded together; But that in itself does not mean people are starting to distribute their votes better, or less automatic. It also doesn't mean post will be more visible; Assuming we will grow our community as a whole and communities will also be having quite a few members. It even doesnt mean a reduction in Spamming and self voting (direct and indirect).

lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

It’s a great question. I have on my mental to do list a task to go through the hivemind github (“communities”) and do a post on the progress being made. I was told by @timcliff there are even some mock-up screenshots there which may be interesting for us to evaluate in order to get a better feel for what’s coming and how it may solve some issues we see now.

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edje (69) · 7 years ago

That would be great; A summary of what is on Github in language most of us can understand. In the end, most of us are not tech savy, but amongst them could be great ideas for feature enhancements and use cases.

kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

Thanks for explaining the issues at hand @lukestokes. Complex problems indeed, and I still personally think they're not easily solvable. Steem's just facing them sooner than all blockchain apps out there. Even eth app devs recently pushed forward the idea of having tx fees charged through inflation instead of users upfront. What would be the best place to get devs looking into the problems and solutions for the stuff mentioned in the post? Thanks @lukestokes, I like your focus on long-term development instead of quick fixes. Seems like you're having a great time beaching out! Have a great time with the fam :)

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

What would be the best place to get devs looking into the problems and solutions for the stuff mentioned in the post?

From what I've seen, they already are, they are just prioritizing work that builds a long-term foundation to solve these problems from the ground up instead of just painting them over. To keep track of what they have going on, see this post where I talk about the various Github repos and how we can monitor them ourselves.

Seems like you're having a great time beaching out!

Absolutely! I don't want to go back to Nashville. :)

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sacred-agent (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hi Luke + Kevin, I totally agree with Your thoughts...

However, I'm just a low-level fish here at Steemit but...

Have suggested a number of times to a few current witnesses that they form a Round Table for say, the top 40 Witnesses every month and record their meeting to the blockchain... either in writing or better yet, their video recorded session...SO, we could move forward with the many ideas to improve upon Steemit and the various issues You've both mentioned.

Perhaps You guys could make this suggestion of a regular Round Table meeting so Steemit does not continue to stagnate.

Let me know what You think...

Thanks Kevin for Your Post and Thank You Luke for Your comments.

Cheers !!

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

@aggroed has been doing a great job of providing a regular witness panel discussion via MSP Waves on Discord, which I think is a good step forward. There is regular communication going on between witnesses but it's not on the blockchain and not public. I'd like more transparency, myself, but I understand how some security patches need to be responsibly rolled out to protect the integrity of the system and how the old saying of "too many cooks in the kitchen" can prove true when everyone has an opinion on something but few have done the hard work of deeply understanding the game theory dynamics, motivational incentives, psychological challenges, and historical programming limitations of what is being done here.

As I tried to explain here, I don't think Steemit is stagnating. I think the team is working on what makes the most sense to work on, though I get how we'd all like to see more progress on multiple fronts. If the focus was on Steemit instead of STEEM, I think we'd all be worse off because STEEM is more valuable that Steemit.

kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

Hmm agreed that Steem is more valuable of course, but Steemit should leverage its position at the moment though since it's in top 1000 and they've the resources.. at least for the rest of 2018. Most users are going through Steemit at the moment anyway and the UI/UX should be way improved. The rest of the Steem ecosystem can benefit from Steemit's success later, or else, too many disparate elements atm and the little skirmishes wouldn't be enough achieving enough of their own network effects/critical mass.. just my 2cents..

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

The interesting thing to me is when we say “Steemit should...” we (in a sense) are claiming more knowledge then they have. If they were to focus on UX/UI (above current requirements) the net result could be more signups, more bandwidth issues, more spam/blockchain bloat, more frustrated people concerned with poor content discovery, etc. it might actually make the problems they are working on now more difficult. Having money to hire more developers doesn’t mean a project will move faster with more developers.

I might be wrong about all this and maybe they are just incompetent and not working on what matters. When I look at the github activity, that’s not the impression I get though.

The good thing, to me, is how passionate this community is to see it succeed. Many of us really care about this place and that’s a fantastic thing!

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cassidyandfranks (62) · 7 years ago

Good Idea!

Maybe an Official DLive session...

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crypto.piotr (70) · 7 years ago

"More marketing now would mean more problems if we don’t solve them first "

Very well said.

just2random (62) · 7 years ago

The Top 250 you speak of will be the result of better quality posts on Steemit rather than the quantity.

And I believe Steemit is being held back with duplicate content from the other Steem Interfaces such as Busy, eSteem, PeerQuery etc.

Fixing the Canonical Link issue must be a priority if we are to take the next step.

Alternatively, Steemit could begin to filter out other platforms content based on their primary tag and begin to look more like a Medium.

Does Zappl, chainbb, steepshot content really belong on Steemit?

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kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

Identity crisis I guess. Personally I'm into Medium-like / Aeon.co-like content. But then I also like the charm of well-thought out short content / curation as well. I'm not sure about SEO stuff, but duplicate content on the web will score worse?

steemmatt (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

Your Tragedy of the Commons example is PERFECT. It's great to see a REAL Steemit leader rise up to raise more attention to this.

I've been on Steemit for 7 months now and have seen so much change. There's so much profiteering now and it's ruining my experience/outlook.

Being realistic and honest, I've been so disappointed with how larger Steem Power holders have been centralizing their power in the form of delegation to upvote bots (or making their own). It feels like the ecosystem is forming a bunch of conglomerate banks. Isn't this what crypto is supposed to NOT be about?

These bots prey on minnows, who feel pressured to pay to compete, and ruin the natural balance I feel Steem Power was intended to have. It's stealing from the poor, for something they should get naturally if stakeholders cared to read material and curate manually more often. So many people cheerlead these initiatives under the guise that they're helping minnows, but they're killing the "Commons" in my view.

Steem Power is being passively shelved for daily stake payouts, yet these people continue to blog (take take take) without the power or priority/interest to reward people and help the ecosystem thrive. It really screams wrong-direction to me and has repeatedly talked me out of making investments in the platform as it seems to be getting worse. This is a great concern of mine for retention and adoption. If this trend doesn't reverse, then we're at risk of being a lame duck platform with no "users" to me and "customers" to them.

I've recently learned that JerryB. literally can't upvote manually per the terms/conditions to his stakeholders investing in his bot. Thats a tragedy to me, sets the wrong precedent, and frustrates me to no end as they continue to act as an evangelist. It's all business...

I'm glad you have the balls to speak up about the reality here. I feel that so many people are focused on XYZ, but we haven't even mastered the ABC's.

Hopefully people will adjust their priorities to GIVE instead of receive. That'll fix so much in the long game, and make everyone more money/create more well-being...

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kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago (edited)

I'm still quite torn about total linear vs non-linear. Feels a bit dupey to have less of an influence with non-linear SP, but the problem is apparent now after about a year. n^2 is too much, so it'll be have to be something in between.

Have always been against vote trading. I can understand for those who have invested heavily, but for those who have been staked up by the community.. just seems kinda disappointing they've been staked up through curation just so they can start selling their votes that's been effectively given to them..

And yeah.. nobody's a damn minnow! We're all people lol.

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mgood (53) · 7 years ago

You've explained what many of us are feeling.

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cassidyandfranks (62) · 7 years ago

Frank Approves this comment!

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gamersclassified (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Complacency is a destroyer which we have seen time and time again in almost all industries. The community has been amazing and we've seen some great leaders pushing for this platform to become more innovative and user friendly but the looming presence of another competitive around the corner is certainly becoming stronger everyday.

We need more comms between the founders/influential players of steemit or this could very well be the start of the end. I think your concerns and feedback from other investors are all warranted. I believe its necessary to explore these pending concerns to ensure steemit is heading in the right direction for sustained growth (especially supercharging signups/onboarding!) and some direction on where the platform is heading.

I was skeptical about steemit but after 10 months being here, I'm trying to spread the word as much as I can because I truely believe steemit can be a solid house hold name in the social media space for years to come. I am just a fish in the ocean here but some of the people that I have introduced to steemit have said (Facebook, google, etcetc will come out with something like this and I'll use that). The possibility of another competitor on the horizon could be very real!

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yesaye (53) · 7 years ago (edited)

I had this small idea, more like a tweak, after talking to @nonameslefttouse:

How about we change people's perspective of Steemit from that of an 'earning machine' to an actual social network, by changing the sign-up message from, "get paid for your content" to, "get your content viewed and appreciated"?

This will cultivate an attitude that it's more about the will to post than the will to earn.

Sometimes it's the smallest of the details that play the biggest role in initiating change, so maybe that could help in increasing the quality of the posts in some way?
What do you think?

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denmarkguy (76) · 7 years ago

I like this idea, too-- and it's very much what I have been trying to impart since I started here.

"Steemit IS: A social content site where creators have the freedom to share what matters to them, and can be rewarded by their peers and become stake holders in the site."

Of course, everyone focused on "the economics" instead.

Which is common. People "get nervous" that things are not moving fast enough... "Yeah, but more people will sign up if we focus on the money."

Sure. But what KIND of people are they? At the moment, we are seeing that they are mostly the sorts of people who see Steemit as a giant "cash dispenser." They use upvote bots and botnets to reward themselves, and then drain their accounts on a regular basis. What's THAT good for?

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yesaye (53) · 7 years ago

Exactly! The importance to the quality of users being onboarded isn't being given.

kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

I like it personally. It's the frame of mind that I came in here with my first post anyway. But can't say if it's what drives others? Probably a good move to get quality content-based users.

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yesaye (53) · 7 years ago

Yep, no wonder you're where you are. lol
Pretty sure the majority of people joining saw the 'get paid' part only and ignored the 'content' bit. xD

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idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

That's it mate , you get it.

Steemit is a blogging platform, not much more than that.

There's no money to be had here, only people.

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yesaye (53) · 7 years ago

Agreed. 💯

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emmyem84 (56) · 7 years ago

I think im still too new here to really know what changes need to be made to improve Steemit. I wish that I had joined sooner so I knew what it used to be like back when everything was manually curated. I do trust that the guys at Steemit inc are going to do their best to implement the changes we need to see here in order to be ready for Mass adoption. I am really hopefully that "communities" is going to be the game changer, I already have a few communities that I would like to start :)

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richard-921 (60) · 7 years ago

Hopefully it works out as planned.

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extraterrestrial (53) · 7 years ago

I'm stopping by! The video and post are both AMAZING! PARADISE! Beautiful image and music. So peaceful. I couldn't agree more stronger with you regarding the GREAT STEEMIT! There is MUCH work to be done. There will always be competition looking over the shoulder. Individuals like @kevinwong are sensational and he realizes that we all are on the same GREAT STEEM TEAM! @kevinwong has been one of the MOST helpful and caring individuals on STEEMIT! Happy 2nd birthday to the Steem blockchain. Thank you for all of your hard work @kevinwong - I'm doing my part. I am telling everyone that I know about the GREAT STEEMIT COMMUNITY! I'm VERY blessed and honored to have almost 1,800 GREAT FOLLOWERS. I APPRECIATE and LOVE them all! I have been on STEEMIT for only 102 days. We all have to do our part. Thanks Again @kevinwong for all that you do for the GREAT STEEMIT COMMUNITY! Your Devoted Friend @extraterrestrial :):) I'm VERY proudly resteeming, commenting, upvoting and following! :):)

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kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

Thanks for your undying enthusiasm @extraterrestrial :)!

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https://coyotenetworknews.com/radio-show/

yahialababidi (68) · 7 years ago

Hola, @kevinwong

Played the video and smiled--Happy (Not So Terrible) Twos, Steem/it! Getting ready in next few days or so to do a radio interview and want to use it as a platform to spread the Good Word about this platform-which means brushing up a bit, so that I can make intelligible, if not intelligent, remarks about it. What I can communicate is my enthusiasm, which I try to do to anyone who will listen :)

Here's the Far Out radio show I will be featured on, on the 29th of March, 5pm:

It's an hour-long segment; let me know if there's something in particular you'd like for me to shout out? I'm wide to receive blockchain crib notes! :p

kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

I guess whatever you've been eyeing on or interested in? Steem is too large to go on, but I've always liked that steem power is an element of skin-in-the-game, since the blockchain is transparent..

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yahialababidi (68) · 7 years ago

Yeah, been jotting down some thoughts and will add SP/skin-in-the-game element to them, thanks. Then, when I open my mouth, who knows what will come out :) Definitely, want to mention that I who, somehow, used to think of blogging as infra dig have come to appreciate it, as a daily practice. That, and the sense of community that this platform offers, for which this largely solitary creature is grateful. Bonne journée, monsieur @kevinwong :)

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cassidyandfranks (62) · 7 years ago

Allright Kev...

Heres my 3cents...

Priority #1 Securing the Steem Network

Priority #2 Have a seemless & flawless on boarding sign up to be ready for the masses.

Priority #3 Reward SteemPower (Delegation) to the newest users to retain them and allow them to speak the Good Word Mouth. (Have them earn STEEM/SBD)

[This can be done voluntarily by the Old Boys Club/Whales that have the Extra SP and can delegate and undelegate if abusing SP.]

[Kind of like a temp worker proving themselves to the Company/Donor that shows daily curation work or marketing skills or managerial role.]

[Utopian is pretty much handling the Dev side I think ok.]

I know I have only been here for just over a year, but I have observed a lot!

Keep STEEM N ON,
Frank

kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

Priority #3 Reward SteemPower (Delegation) to the newest users to retain them and allow them to speak the Good Word Mouth. (Have them earn STEEM/SBD)
[This can be done voluntarily by the Old Boys Club/Whales that have the Extra SP and can delegate and undelegate if abusing SP.]

No idea why most are chasing after scraps for some extra SBD / Steem. What's happening is just an arms race from out-of-whack econs, which is understandable since no one wants another to get too big. So join or be left out. But it's just not an optimal move for the network, and the situation ought to be rectified.

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Link to DJ education just in case you weren't sure if he deserves to be there

idikuci (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hey Kevi,

Agreed it's a genuine concern on the direction the platform is heading in, but a lot of this is about education. We all collectively need to try to educate people that spamming is working against your own self interest. People need to be shown the long term prospects of steem where this is the place to come get quality content, but if it's full of idiots spamming then this place will become a ghost town and the steem tokens will be worthless no matter not many SMTs come out. @dj23 is doing a good job of trying to educate people as is @taskmaster4450 which is helping but we do need more. Drawing attention to it and giving a place for the conversation is a nice contribution.

Also, as an aside. I just wanted to say thank you for your continued support of the #comedyopenmic contest, it means a lot. Thanks.

kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

Definitely need some badge for passing a "minimum user test" or something like that..
Yeah i've noticed @dj123 and his enthusiasm. I've been wondering why he/she doesn't write their own posts other than comments?

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idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

Everyone who see's a DJ comment is wondering. I'm considering building a bot to do a Best of DJ posts to entertain myself...

While I have you I'd like to ask would you mind if we use your name in the comedyopenmic posts as a supporter of the contest? You're a well known person of steemit and have quite a bit of clout I think advertising that you support the contest would help us out, if you don't mind.

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taskmaster4450 (78) · 7 years ago

I am glad to see you list the on-board process at the top of the list. I noticed there were a couple hundred sign ups each of the last few days. This is not going to cut it. I understand that it is necessary to ensure that we do not have a ton of fake sign ups. That is crucial. However, we also need newer people who want on the platform to be able to do so in under a week.

We were told that it would be 2-4 weeks before some of the new sign up processes took effect, That was close to a month ago...perhaps the recent trend to almost nobody being approved is the final move to automation...I am not sure.

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mawit07 (66) · 7 years ago

Did not know it was two years today that steemit was offically operating. Pretty dedicated you are with the platform. No wonder you have so much SP ;) Its all your hard work put into it.

Not a programmer by trade but feel like there are so many smart people using this platform that I believe sooner rather than later steem will explode. Thanks!

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kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

Blockchain community savviness is another matter though!

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chunger (49) · 7 years ago

Awesome post mate! When I first joined Steemit (just over two months ago), I was lucky enough to discover your blog post in the trending section. It was dedicated bloggers who connected with their followers, interacted in the comments section and contributed to the quality content that made me stay. It's been a hell of a ride, but I think Steemit is here to stay, and I'm here to stay on Steemit. Keep up the great work! You're awesome (especially when u make those randomly funny blogs). They honestly make my day!

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sistem (60) · 7 years ago

These are very lovely and wonderful suggestions you just made but are the right people reading this now? I see no Utopian.io in your tag, I though there were the ones responsible for handling situations like this. It's good that you have decided to make some noise about it and let our Devs wake up but if the right people don't get to read this then the noise would be in vane.

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milano1113 (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

Beautiful colors in your YouTube video. Very relaxing. I would say too relaxing lol. You are right. Steemit has to climb up to top 250 as soon as possible. All your points are a great recommendations to achieve it. Let push steemit platform all together. It is growing, but we need to grow it even more than that. Increasing new sign-ups and onboarding would be one of huge benefits as well as many other...
And last, but not least happy 2nd birthday to the Steem blockchain!

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musamalijames (62) · 7 years ago

Congragulations to steemit for making 2 years. A very short time to reach this level. Massive thanks to everyone on the platform.
Thanks for sensitizing us of top 250 @kevinwong. Top 1000 is a great achievement, but not enough to make us comfortable. I believe embarking on new users and retaining the ones on is a perfect strategy to build more activity on the platform which will definately increase investors. Most of us joined for the money, now lets play our role in increasing the value of steem by influencing more sign ups and creating more activity on steemit.

latikasha (49) · 7 years ago

Would you agree with me that here at Steemit content is not important, if you have good connection then your post will get lots of upvote & you can earn money or else you can't, this has to stop or new users can't survive @steemit. They will lose their interest to post here.

kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago

It's a social network anyway, so the social and networking parts are crucial. But then again, there are curation groups that are just focused purely on content (and persistence displayed by the account), so there's that.

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atmosblack (63) · 7 years ago

You are absolutely right, now is the time to show the world, what ♨ is all about.
The biggest problem in my view, is the missing communication from Steemit Inc. @Ned promised some weeks ago, that they were working on that - what followed was an (not so spectacular) update some days later and since then total silence. I would expect at least weekly updates what is going on behind the scenes. Never forget, that this is all about communications here!

nmalove (63) · 7 years ago

Honestly, I agree with you @kevinwong. 2 years should be enough to have a smooth signup process, and it's sad that intending users are still battling with this. If other major social media platforms should adopt the block chain technology, then I think it will be really difficult for steem to stand firm. This is time for Steem to really brace itself for the competitions that will come soonest.

jaraumoses (68) · 7 years ago

Wow what a refreshing serene video,i wish Steemit would be as this!

As you stated,the sign up process should be sped up and also the over use of bots!!

I read a few days here that we(Steemit) might get a competitor from the co-founder @dan ie Steem 2.0!

I have also realised that there are many social media sites cropping up that are decentralised and rewards users using crypto.....Steemit devs really need to up the game.

mgood (53) · 7 years ago

You bring up great points. Steemit has to progress in order to survive because someone else will put out a better product.

I have been writing a few comments on a number of other people's posts about how to keep more Steemit accounts active. There are 80% dropouts.

I hope you have enough influence to stir the pot and get things done.

irreverent-dan (60) · 7 years ago

Hey man, thanks for bringing this up. I don't usually involve in talks about the platform and its issues, but I have the feeling that we have been in a long period of stagnation. It's probably even worse with all those vote buying services. The "Steem hard and you will succeed one day"-mantra that has been chanted by many successful Steemians seems to work only for a few.

Steemit is supposed to be a social platform, right? I think the vote selling and buying has somewhat taken the social element away, which in turn has discouraged a lot of people here.

steevc (73) · 7 years ago

Definitely a critical time for Steemit. It's doing well, but there's a long way to go to be mainstream. It needs features for a smooth experience and publicity. I still think it can get there

flashfiction (57) · 7 years ago

The problem as I see it, is that people at the top are more concern about Steem - SMTs than Steemit as an ongoing project.

I have not heard anything solid about this project (Steemit) in a while. And, boy, does this need some serious thinking and serious love...

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fitzgibbon (61) · 7 years ago

That music .... "Forever, forever.."

It amazes me how you pick this theme to describe you mood on Steem, on most days Steem sounds to me like:

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resteemer (46) · 7 years ago

Resteemed.

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dannywill (50) · 7 years ago

You put some great suggestions up there.They are really good idea. When i sign-up for steemit, it takes 17 days for my accounts approval, its not a good sign for any social platform. But its always good to know that someone like you is trying hard to make this @Steemit a better & beautiful place.

I will upvote & resteem this post.

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yaan (59) · 7 years ago

It's already the second birthday. Times flies just too fast.
Wish a lot of luck and success to everyone)

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steeminator3000 (74) · 7 years ago

I feel foxy right after opened that song , din din dım huaaaaaaa

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hassanbenali (2) · 7 years ago

Wonderful post ..thanks for sharing...Best of luck @kevinwong ✫

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unclehermit (54) · 7 years ago

Good post, I don't understand all of the technicalities but there are clearly some issues around voting and platform design. I look forward to the evolution of the platform, but you're right, it's just a matter of time before a competitor emerges. Once the likes of FB and Goo realise their business model is threatened what is the betting they bring out a better version of a Steemit platform that allows rewards in their own crypto currency and all of the issues associated with data privacy. That would, however, be better than taking advantage of our data without any reward, but still not a great situation. Steemit has a unique opportunity to break the monopoly that corporates have on social platforms, but unfortunately greed might ultimately prevent it from doing so.

pizzapai (61) · 7 years ago

Ok, for the backend I can't do anything, for user like me can you please maybe come up another post for telling us what exactly we can do to help the whole system? Is it like we flag those spammers but ofcourse we have to educate the people to know what spammers is.
Except produce quality content, what else we can do? To get more people to join steemit? but we don't have enough upvote for them, at the same time we still struggling to be able to help newcomers.
Hmmm... I really hope user /minnow like me are able to do more to help the system. Sorry if I also make some noise....😛

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penking (54) · 7 years ago

happy second birthday to the Steemit. I pray we recover from this dip soonest

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sabbirahmedd (52) · 7 years ago

Excilent post dear bro @kevinwong and good job. great writing. dear bro how are you i very miss you.

keep it up dear

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pijon (50) · 7 years ago

I never bored while i am reading your post. You know how to present a difficult subject in a simple & interesting way. Thank you so much for taking the time to post these suggestions. They should seriously consider the suggestions you present, specially supercharge signup & private message box & notification.

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abdurrahim82 (5) · 7 years ago

Thanks for share experience front us

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nadia-hasan (32) · 7 years ago (edited)

you discusses a great topic ... your post. I like it very well ... and I think your words are reasonable ..... I am waiting for your next post. Thank you.

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mindtrap (74) · 7 years ago

I love the whole Steemit adventure aswell @kevinwong. But let’s not forget that Steemit is a whole different thing than steem. And i m actually worried.Worried about all those things that come around with the bots...the votes....
I wonder,is this sustainable?And if yes for how long?It is encouraging that so many apps are based on steem blockchain.i hope this works and we will be witnesses of the revolution that changes the global system

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tesaganewton (66) · 7 years ago

Steemit being one among the top 1000 visited websites is so refreshing, talking about the smooth user experience, busy.org has been so smooth and functional.
Am thinking steemit can also make such adjustments, it has been having slight buga since yet it visited so much.
@kevinwong interesting suggestions.
Those issues are worth looking at.

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heessuh (52) · 7 years ago

Who is the looming slayer?

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fantaaraga (40) · 7 years ago

Am in love with this

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crypto.piotr (70) · 7 years ago

Thx for that quite informative post. Keep up with creating interesting content.

I just came across your other post and I really liked it.

I decided to check your profile just to realize that we seem to share a number of interests :)

In particular that we both share a similar passion towards cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology :)

Cheers,
Piotr

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crypto.piotr (70) · 7 years ago

Hi Kevin,
Im just a new member of this community and I wanted to show my appreciation to great work that you're providing here.

Im fascinated with AI , crypto and blockchain technology and your posts are making it easier. Loads of valuable content. and easy to read (which is important for not native-english speaking person).

Take care,
Piotr

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blazing (70) · 7 years ago

with great power comes great responsibility the risk will be on ultra high level now and to push it further from here on will be challenging that's true

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fantaaraga (40) · 7 years ago

Wow

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crypto.piotr (70) · 7 years ago

One more question: did you ever hear about Narrative ICO ? It seem to be future "steemit killer".

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sarjoni (54) · 7 years ago

the music is so beautiful we hear it.

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ghazalifahmi (43) · 7 years ago

A good post man 😎
I like, deal for that post.

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cutiepie (58) · 7 years ago

the more the crunch the best the munch is ;) but new opportunities lies ahead of us this is going to be a great year

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verasj (65) · 7 years ago

I have nothing much to say..no use pretending to be expert in steemit with the expert @kevinwong ...just that thank you and keep up the good work and Happy Bday Steemit!

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cityslicker (58) · 7 years ago

being in top is not an easy task but the team is very talented they could handle this thing

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starboye (53) · 7 years ago

the momentum has been building well up and its the best opportunity to seize when other social media is panicking

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karenmckersie (74) · 7 years ago

Awesome post @kevinwong , I couldnt agree more , the sooner the better ! A definite upvote and resteem , keep up the great work !😀👍👍👍

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julisavio (69) · 7 years ago

Greetings, Kevin
I see that from your posts, you understand a lot about Steemit. How do you think steemit will be in 2020 ??

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acutpelangi (38) · 7 years ago

Nice picture

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hero420 (40) · 7 years ago

I don't usually involve in talks about the platform and its issues, but I have the feeling that we have been in a long period of stagnation. It's probably even worse with all those vote buying services. The "Steem hard and you will succeed one day"-mantra that has been chanted by many successful Steemians seems to work only for a few.

Steemit is supposed to be a social platform, right? I think the vote selling and buying has somewhat taken the social element away, which in turn has discouraged a lot of people here.

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hendrafauzi (48) · 7 years ago

happy 2nd brithday to the steem blockchain 🎁

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muzammil1 (55) · 7 years ago

This is nice

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steem-lover (46) · 7 years ago (edited)

A very good post,this a information for me @kevinwong.
Thank you very much, brother.
Sucsesfuly for you brother

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nazaraceh (47) · 7 years ago

Great work, It is a problem that comes and should be solved well, we really support your activities @kevinwong
May we all be successful.

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mrmdhn17 (38) · 7 years ago

👍🏻 I like that

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nazarhasyimi (51) · 7 years ago

@kevinwong
I've watched the 3: 31 minute video, thank you very much for sharing information very good, hopefully we all can still, success is always my friend.

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anzeli (36) · 7 years ago

@kebumen your is the best

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mfaisalmrc (25) · 7 years ago

Hopefully in the 2nd anniversary to blockchain Steem! Continually victorious, Many thanks to @kevinwong for sharing this information and video.

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aldentan (67) · 7 years ago

I think we will definitely have competitors... Looking at how things are here.

I mean, we're doing great, but it can be better.

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mudasirfarooq (44) · 7 years ago

Your posts are good as fragrance, keep blogging.

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zubir01 (56) · 7 years ago

this beautiful sunrise is my friend. @kevinwong

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xeniaioannou (47) · 7 years ago

Great suggestions
I’m still in a learning phase

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zulkiflisaadan (56) · 7 years ago

Yeah bro im so agree with u,lots of my friend that ill introduce to steemit get frustrated when coming to sign up.Me also get into the problem,i had to use my sister and my friends phone no coz im not allowed to use the same phone no for the next sign up.i finally got my account after three times trying.. i dont know why it happen,but all my friends facing the same problem when come to sign up.To me it could be a matter for newbies that wanted to be a player in this platform,his got to face this hard experience in her first time entering into this platform.im still learning to use this platform to publish my music work.but i see its not easy to get upvoted,ive got to use bot to get upvoted..but its just dont make sense when you losing your sbd on every bid even it will increase your sp,i just dont no how long i can hold on..maybe steemit should take some rasional advice from user like us to keep this platform growed and being one of the toplist in the future....its better to keep the existing horse from defending the new horse and let the existing horse die out.

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calatorulmiop (57) · 7 years ago

Looks like 2018 might be one of the most important in steem's history. If the planned updates like communities and faster sign ups roll out soon then we might be on track for some awesome growth. Fingers crossed :)

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frankbacon (65) · 7 years ago

Highly rEsteemed!

Inferior men.jpg

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yusfriadi (49) · 7 years ago

two years is a very young age, but the success looks remarkable. this is good news. if not clever mensikapi will reverse course. hopefully this does not happen. why, because it is related to the crowd. need to be fought and maintained in order to contribute continuously to the world community

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doitvoluntarily (77) · 7 years ago

perhaps we will see the top 250 for steemit this year?

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