Steem vs. Society: User Satisfaction, Frustration and Retention

in steem •  7 years ago 

In a normal society in the real world, people do work and get paid for their work. Getting paid (rewarded) for the work you do is gratifying and uplifting. There is satisfaction and gratitude in being rewarded for work done. It contributes to self-worth and self-value. Being valued by others matters, and being rewarded by others for what we do matters.

In society, your "rewards" for work done aren't based on how much money your employer has in his bank account. The rewards are based on how much the product is worth and gets paid in the market of goods and services. People pay from their own pocket.

On Steem, it's the "community" at large that allocates upvotes to you to determine your reward from the community reward pool, based on how much money (SP) they have in their "bank account" (wallet). People don't pay from their pocket to reward others like the real world. There is no market that determines the value of a product. It's all personally determined on a individual content and evaluation basis for each content-product produced, content-by-content.

Someone can put in time, energy, effort and work, but get little or no rewards for it.

People are attracted to join from being told about the money, or seeing the Steem slogan of:

Your voice is worth something
Get paid for good content. Post and upvote articles on Steemit to get your share of the daily rewards pool.

Yet, many don't make money for what they put in. They don't get their share based on an evaluation of their content being good or not. Good content gets unrewarded all the time. You can get upvotes, but little to no rewards. The claim doesn't live up to the reality. "I made good content, but I didn't get paid for it... that took my valuable time to make it while I could have been doing something else." People are drawn in based on the symbol, idea and imagery of making money. And then it doesn't happen. The expectations are not met, and disappointment sets in. The platform isn't giving them rewards, satisfaction or gratification/gratitude for the work they did. They are frustrated instead. They tried, but it's not worth their time.

This doesn't mean that everyone is entitled to rewards, or that everyone else on the platform is obliged or required to reward everyone else on the platform. I'm just pointing out how things operate and function on the platform, and how things are likely operating or functioning at a psychological level. This functional reality may never be overcome because of how the platform is designed and unwilling (or unable) to be changed, and may forever plague the hopes and dreams for it's larger success.

Another aspect that some people don't learn about until later on, is the "pay" you get rewarded for by some, can be taken away by others. Imagine in a real society if that was how it worked. It wouldn't be too great.

Alice makes products to sell. Time put into work to do something has a monetary compensation for doing that work. Someone likes what Alice made, and Alice gets rewarded with money by someone buying her product. Then someone else comes along who either doesn't like the product or doesn't like Alice as the product-producer or seller, and they decide to take away the previous sale or sales, to take away the money from others buying the product.

All that time, energy, effort and work to make something and have it sold, is now unsold. Someone liked her product and paid her for it, while someone else didn't and canceled that previous purchase.

On Steem, that is how it works. You can put in the time, energy and effort to produce something that gets rewarded by others, and others can come along to remove those rewards if they don't like your product or you as the content-product producer-creator.

Alice produces something that others appreciate. Others "upvote" her product to "buy" her product and "pay" her from the social community pool. She gets paid based on the amount of money (SP) people have in their bank account when they upvote, and how much they want to apply that monetary power Steem Power) as a percent of their influence in the community. Those who have more money (SP) have more influence to reward people who work in the community. But then someone who has a lot of money (SP) comes along and removes the rewards she got from others, just because they don't like Alice's product, or because they don't like Alice, or for any other reason they might or might not have.

There is no market-measure of product valuation. There is no market. It's a not a free-market ("prices for goods and services are determined by the open market and consumers"). There are no prices, only voluntary donation rewards that come from a community pool that has to be shared. There is no measure for how the community pool is to be shared, apart from who has the money (SP) to allocate rewards to people. If you have money (SP), you can reward others more, or take more rewards away.

Maybe these differences between Steem society and regular society are why some people don't stay too long and leave early or later on?

They put in time and work producing-creating a content-product, but there is no market valuation for the work done, and then they get little (or no) rewards for the work they put into producing-creating a content-product. Maybe after some time of working to develop their brand, getting supporters and regular "buyers" of their certain type of content-product, they might get rewarded by others and "make it" worth their investment of time and energy into the platform/society of Steem.

But they might say something someone with lots of money (SP) doesn't like, or they get supported by someone that another person with money (SP) doesn't like, and then come the flags that remove the rewards that others allocated. They are powerless to do anything about this. The money (SP) has the power, and they don't have it. You feel helpless and disabled (unable to do anything) about the misuse/abuse of power against you. This is frustrating, to be disempowered and disillusioned about the society you are a part of.

For most people that doesn't happen, but it is a possibility for anyone that can and has happened (to me for instance). For many though, there is time, energy, effort and work put in that gives no return/reward contrary to what the site says ("Get paid for good content", "get your share of the daily rewards pool"). They don't get the satisfaction, gratification or pride from being rewarded for creating something others appreciate. They have better uses for their time, energy and effort, and so they leave.

What do you think of the comparisons I made?
Have you noticed or thought about these differences before?
Do you have any contrasts of your own to bring up?
Do you think you have a way to resolve these issues?

Please comment and share what's on your mind :)


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When I learned about the reward pool, I thought downvoting/flagging should just be done away with. I know the financial aspect is a great recruitment tool for Steemit, but I think for the majority profit is a fata morgana.

I say this because I read a post recently that laid out how, in its current form, Steemit is going to always be a platform that is dominated by whales, and those whales will always get the whale's share of rewards, even if the minnows outnumber them by a million times.

The real value of Steemit is that it is a blockchain and what lands on it cannot be erased short of global catastrophe. This is the bane of all censors, control freaks and tyrannies of the mind. That in itself is worth more than all the money parked on the blockchain put together. Heck, that's worth more than the entire cryptosphere put together in my opinion. A platform that means anyone can reach a global audience and not be censored is literally priceless.

The risk for Steemit that I see moving forward in the future is that someone will fork it and modify it to create a system that doesn't do a premine, doesn't have downvoting and devises an algorithm that somehow calculates effort while proofing against plagiarism and provides a minimum reward to effort ratio that can then be upvoted by others.

For example, Bob posts a story with 10,000 words and Tom a story with 1,000 words. Quantitatively the algorithm calculates Bob's base reward at 10x Tom's. Bob gets 10 units and Tom 1, after that upvotes by other users help determine the reward. I know there are tons of other things that would have to be considered. But I just wanted to provide a rough sketch.

create a system that doesn't do a premine, doesn't have downvoting and devises an algorithm that somehow calculates effort while proofing against plagiarism and provides a minimum reward to effort ratio that can then be upvoted by others.

Yeah, I thought of making one that was better than Steem back when I was being flagged in 2017. It would have no premine, downvoting would require community involvement or an elected panel to review flag claims, and the power would be based on SP + interactivity. Plagiarism proofing was a stumbling block to get done as I think that also requires people to judge. But then auto minimum rewards for work put into content-works is a great idea :) Thanks for the feedback.

I am really torn on some of the issues others have with how people use the system. I am definitely not a fan of the downvoting for malicious reasons. The rest of it I don't feel is so black and white.

It occurs to me that in order for this idea to work there has to be some kind of reward in place for those who have more investment. I see people complaining their posts are barely getting compensation and how others are self voting themselves thousands of dollars. Or trading votes with others for high payouts.

While I do believe that is a short sighted action that could one day ruin their investment (not if I have anything to do with it) the fact is that it is their money, their stake. I am very uncomfortable with the idea that those with more than me owe me from their sweat. I hope to one day be one of those viewed as having a lot of equity here, and would hate having those welfare expectations placed upon me.

I have said many times now that most who joined around the time I did whose paths crossed mine are gone now. Hell, I almost quit too. But honestly, how on earth could I, or anyone else expect others already here to find us when you already have a large community you interact with and care for. New people need to realize the burden is on them to find their communities. To invest their time and if possible money into this platform.

It would be like my neighbor planting this great garden, and I went out and tossed a handful of seeds in my yard. Is it realistic of me to think my garden will be as rich as theirs when he tilled the soil, taking great care to water on dry days. When they weeded theirs and I let mine grow as it would, leaving the crops (if they even took) to fend for themselves for nutrients against the weeds?

I witness good content getting paid a lot here. With my meager stake here I vote 20+ times a day adding to the payment of good content. Patience is a trait most do not have in this day when most seek immediate gratification. You can't force people to see what they refuse to see. Perhaps as the community grows one day they will come back as there will be to many success stories for them to ignore.

The weak hands with no vision are the ones being weeded out. I miss some of them, but communities need strong members to build and grow them. Members willing to be the leaders needed and not just here to ride on others coattails.

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New people need to realize the burden is on them to find their communities

Yup. No one owes anyone an upvote, it's based on whether they value what you do to give you one, no matter their stake.

Patience is a trait most do not have in this day when most seek immediate gratification.

Yup, quick and easy money, not willing to put in the work to earn their way work to earn their way

It's ironic that you put the link there to your post, because if anything that is actually one of the causes here many are trying to milk that pisses me off.

First, thank you for doing actual research for your post to their worthy cause. The amount of help they are giving to this community is real. I wish I had the stomach to do more research, but the last piece I did for them made me ill and I will have to support them in an more indirect way, through upvotes and donations. There is one family here on Steemit (that I know of, could be more) that is dependent on the aid they are receiving from this group. It does wonders for my long ago hardened pessimistic soul to witness such kindness. Even more to be able to somehow GIVE to such a cause.

I have noticed in the brief time I have known about them that there are many trying to figure out how they can jump on the high payout bandwagon. I have called one out recently who it was apparent they only want the large payout, but didn't even understand what this is about.

Then there are others I see posting to the tag, posting little rants with no research, little to no facts. Just ranting. The only redeeming part to any of those people that at least they are giving some small pittance back to familyprotection to help them be able to help families like the one I mentioned earlier.

It boggles my mind how one could look at such a gesture as started by canadian-coconut and markwhittam as being a profit factory. I know my rant is a little off topic, but not totally. It grates on my nerves that just because some (all) of us want to one day be at the level one like yourself is at that they could view this worthy cause as quick and easy money. I applaud those running the program for their patience because I would be yelling at my screen at some of these selfish assholes (okay, maybe I still do, hahaha).

People could help them with even little gestures. It's cool that some upvote the article/post, but I notice not many upvote their comment saying they endorse the post. I am like why the hell not? The money given in that vote came out of thin air, are we so greedy that we need to save that one vote for someone who might be able to help us monetarily elsewhere?

Rant done. Glad you have taken an interest in what they are doing. As I have noted elsewhere, you are one of the givers on here that posts intelligently on issues that matter. Your posts will draw much needed attention to this serious matter, as it seems from the brief time I have become aware of them that most of the problems seem to come from people not knowing what to expect when they answer that door and CPS is there. People need educated, and maybe this crap of kidnapping/families ripped apart can stop.

(and yes, I am aware if I put the @ sign in front of the names it creates a link. I purposely didn't make it a link so they won't be notified they are being mentioned. I do this most of the time as when I see most linking it feels like an attempt to call the persons attention for an upvote for some of that easy money that you mentioned that started this rant).

Sorry, it was the wrong link I put, bad copy paste. I added the correct link to the post about working to earn your way (here too). Sorry for the confusion :/ Familyprotection does good to bring attention to issues, the CPS abuses are a grave injustice.

I think that Steemit is a microcosm of society - there are apparent injustices and those with seemingly too much influence, power (and cash!) but what is often missed is the risk and/or work that the whales have put in to get to where they are in 99% of cases. People expect too much too soon.

As you say, if you start a business in real-life, it takes time, effort and persistence to get it off the ground. Yet here on Steemit, people seem to want overnight success.

I think if the focus was on the content (like on FB or Twitter etc) almost forgetting about the financial rewards, then the rewards would actually follow more quickly. It doesn't work the other way around. Again, back to the real-life business analogy, profits are a consequence of doing the right things well. You can't run a successful business with 100% of your focus on profits and cash - otherwise, you'd have lots of disgruntled customers and employees!

Good comment; I feel the same way. I certainly want to increase my accounts SP and value but I approach it with the thought that I am here mainly to create posts, upvote, comment and partake in the community rather than just be here for the money. We can’t be narrow minded otherwise we fall into the trap of negativity when things don’t go the way we want.

Indeed, having the primary focus on money corrupts many people. You said it well, doing the right things well will produce the monetary results. Buying your way to the top isn't doing the work to earn it.

the post is long but very interesting to read!

You've clear ideas, and you can explain them perfectly well even for non-native English speakers, like me:)

I totally agree with your point of view.
Steemit really differs from our life much, and your example with Alice and her way of earning money proves it very well.

Bit from the other hand, there're definite similarities too.
For example, in our ordinary life your infleuncial friends and business connections means really much. If you've rich friends who have their own business and friends among politicians or businessmen, then you've all chances to be among them as well, and you'll have great start for yout future progress and success.

If you're just an ordinary guy with no powerful connections and friends, then your way to success can be much longer and more complicated.

The same is in Steemit. Do you agree?
If you've rich friends here, they'll upvote you and bring you to the moon fast.

When I came here I didn't have any friends here, and I know people who had rich friends, and our speed of development are different;)

What about you?
What was your story of success here, if it's not a secret;)

I've voted for you as witness, hope it will help you
thank you for attention to my post!

Yes, networking is important everywhere, I agree. You have to have connection to get ahead most of the time. I didn't, my work/content paved the way for me. I worked my way and earned it. I didn't know anyone. Thanks for the support.

sorry, maybe it's not polite, but did you make investments to your SP, or it was earned by your just with the help of your posts?
You've great reputation, you're here for 2 years, so both variants are possible-) It's worth of great respect that you had no support and friends among whales and could become rather powerful.
SO did your way start from 0?

My attitude towards Steemit is never to focus on the money beyond the essential. I need to move up because SP is influence. Fine. I’ll do my best to do that. It’s going to be slow. I will leave this platform the moment I feel like I’m begging, be it for attention or money. So in this, I try to set standards on myself as I do in real life. And although it is hard sometimes, I try to keep my expectations of Steemit extremely low. I try my best to focus on the inspiration karma, and remind myself that in every quality interaction I make, I’m enriching my mind and my appreciation of the world. That these connections will in some way influence the quality of my writing. I’ve already had some fabulous experiences that I would have never had elsewhere, so I’ve been rewarded.

I don’t expect people to care about a total stranger in real life, so no, I don’t believe I’m entitled to be paid for any effort I pour into my post. I put in the efforts I do because I have standards in how I want to present my brand. I don’t see Steemit as a traditional employer/employee scenario. We are all entrepreneurs and our blog is our shopfront. People can ignore and write terrible reviews of our businesses as they wish. There will be many fails. I just enjoy the wins and the gems I meet as they come, and remind myself, I have a career I love. Steemit is my creative playground. For the effort and the number of posts I’ve actually done, it’s been rewarding. So I’m not complaining. I have a lot of faith in this platform to endure and eventually succeed. But I want it to attract the right kind of people and not just those who only focus on being paid and become embittered. To me Steemit is a community and networking platform. You have to be willing to invest a bit of self and show an interest in others. It will be driven by emotions. This is social media after all.

I’m not even sure after writing a wall of text, if I even answered your question. But I appreciated this post nonetheless.

You have a good outlook. I agree to get people who want to contribute to attract them, not people who just want to post crap to get money ;) Lots of sharks nowadays, and bidbots help them get their sharky ways.

I’ll never use bidbots myself, although I’ve been encouraged many times to do so. But that’s who I am. I can never justify to myself that my causes and my interests are more important than others, that I’m deserving of taking more from the reward pool. It means more to me to be appreciated for my content by people who made the effort to leave a kind word, that they took the time to go out of their spheres to show an interest in others. I’m willfully idealistic.

I never want to cast judgement, because I think it is safe to say there is someone in all our personal networks and community spheres who we are friends with who uses bidbots. My preference is that everyone has the same opportunities as others, but then it wouldn’t be reality. ;)

I think you hit on some good points here. Those are likely some of the reason user retention isn't the greatest.
However.. In some ways I don't think it's a lot different from the regular economy.. A lot of these same things happen, even if it's not quite umm. Displayed the same way visually for us to observe.

For example.. In the real world economy if you make the wrong enemies or say the wrong things to the wrong people, you can have instead of flags coming at you, real physical problems to deal with.. And as I'm sure you know there are a lot of different ways that can be done.

Just cause we don't quite see it in the same way, doesn't mean there aren't a lot of flaggings and robberies going on in the business world.

So I wouldn't disagree with your assessment I would just suggest that the people who have a certain vision of what it's like in their minds eye perhaps aren't quite comparing it with the real world with enough effort.. Cause I think many if not most of the problems we face here, we can probably also find in similar ways in the physical world economy.

In regards to solutions though? I dunno. I won't be much help there, my solution is almost always "Education".. Yet, few seem to want to take the time to properly educate and nor do many want to wait for the results either.

Maybe in time we can inspire more people to become interested in these things, that's one of my hopes. I'm a big believer in the human spirit once it gets its moral bearings working in better order.

Yes, education is my solution to. Consciousness is the root of the problem :/ People don't care to learn or face the problems, just want to avoid it...

The post is bang on target! I can definitely associate with the words you've written because i am new and i am trying to make something out of my steemit experience.

Once one has spent enough time on the platform, there are 3 ways to go - give up / buy votes / put in effort and time to interact (slow and steady but may lead to a more fulfilling experience). I choose the 3rd option.

I dont think i have ever thought my time is wasted because i wasnt appreciated. I do sometimes feel that the comment i made was valuable for which i could have been paid one cent at least.

There are other points because of which a new steemit user may feel disheartened and i am not making a point about whether it is good or bad.

  1. people vote on their post with 100% power. Thats ok. However when they start interacting with someone in comments section, they give the commenter a 5% vote and themselves a 100% vote. I think a mismatched payout during such a conversation can be difficult for some newcomers to deem as fair.

  2. small payouts can vanish by the time one is to get a payout, which is based on how the reward pool gets created and distributed but for newcomers, every penny matters. I have seen my 2 cents go down to 1 and then to 0. If i use your analogy, then my comment was valued at 2 cents when i made it but suddenly it worth nothing eventually.

But i agree with your post. I think people who genuinely want steemit to grow and see increased user adoption are quite giving. There are many who dont value interactions. But its like the real world. Some companies have lesser wage disparity and reward employees with shares. Other try and save costs to reward max dividends to shareholders. Steemit whales are majority owners of the network. Their actions will dictate the future of this site. And i think it doesnt help anyone if steemit becomes a warzone for bots.

Well spoken thank you, I agree. The future of this platform is hazardous in the current framework. I am here to do what you do; read, comment and interact and hope at the end of the day it will be rewarded. I also enjoy the interaction we get with people on here, it has been far superior than the experience I had while using Fakebook. Keep up the commenting and creating!

I could not agree more, manual curation ftw!

Thank you @aparanoide and @cmplxty for the support.

Good points. People don't wan to put in the time to earn their way and want to cheat the system, as I posed about today.

Plus there is the dust threshold where payouts less than $0.03 don't get paid out :/ So try not to vote on stuff if your the only vote and you only give less than 3 cents each time. Smaller accounts can vote and compound above 3 cents and the rewards get paid, but otherwise not...

Thanks for that tip. Makes sense not to waste voting power.

When i can on steemit i thought making money is how they say it evrywhere till i made an introductory post and got $0.02, i was like wow is this how things look like here? Those who where into it before me told me about discord and community. I was kind of ok let do it, i join so many and nothing was free i had to pay to get upvote. The rate at which i sleep since joining steemit has reduce because i have to stay all night waiting for whales to make a post so i can comment and get noticed. It all started when i noticed that you need to draw the attention of these might whale so as to earn from a carefully drafted easy. Life on steemit is differenctly similar to real life situations. As you said you get payed by your employer from what was agreed upon at the stage of employment but in steemit it is different. I can link life on steemit to a life of an enterprenuer. Both have something similar and that is they both earn from the what they sell to people. They are both bosses of there own. So they deplore the same tartice; convicing people to buy their product. It is very difficult making a $1 on steemit if you don't have big friends or communities backing you or don't have money to promote your content. How i which they know how much time people like us take to write a reasonable content free from cheatah. But life is life and humans are similar. A rich man will not like a poor man to reach were he his. He will always want dominace over the later. What i know is that i am here to stay. Apart from the money (which is important), steemit have impacted positivily to me. I have improved in my writing skills, i have made friends, impacted to others and i have been able to meet some of my certain need. I wish something can be done concerning the issue if unfair rewards by the system but i don't see it coming through as investors need profit. Steemit for them is a business opportunity and nothing more. They forgot that steemit has this popularity now is because of people like us who wants to make it through content creation.

Thank you

Yeah, I wonder what Steem would be if there was no blogging... would it be worth what it's worth? People who only care about it as a crypto to make money need to care more about the content creation platform and not exploit people so that they can get ahead with selling their votes. They can hold coins like any other platform if that's what they want. But involvement here should be based with content creators in mind to help them, not exploit their psychological desires. Content creation was the new mining on Steem, but now they mine by selling votes.

Steemit runs on communist lines of thinking to some extent. And these are the problems with that system. There is something that could have made it a little better from the start. If no one was ever allowed to power up from steem. If you could only earn SP through community interactions. and if you powered down, you lose that influence and have to earn it back. I guess that would have distributed the power differently and more appropriately.

You're communist == bad attitude feels like Red Scare propaganda.

That being said I've suggested some very similar ideas. Ideally, SP would be awarded through a complex reputation system. The Steem platform would be proof-of-reputation/trust instead of proof-of-stake.

My original idea when I got here 6 months ago is that you would have 3 different reputations:

  • content creator
  • curator
  • judge

Whenever you acted in a positive way with the platform you'd be awarded SP in the corresponding reputation. Judges would be responsible for flagging. I even came up with a very complex trial by jury system where you'd need platform consensus to actually punish someone.

I can only hope that SMTs provide the functionality to implement such a system.

I guess with SMT, you will be able to create your system any way you like.

Hopefully.

Here is what I think about this : take steemit as a normal business, like selling of goods and so on. You bring out your goods each day with the motive of getting a good buyer to buy them from you[reward you], but most time you end up going home even without selling just one of your goods. what could have caused it? Are the goods bad? you ask yourself various questions. The fact that Mr "a" sells good vehicles doesn't mean he gets rewarded[a buyer] for all the vehicles he put out there everyday, why? Because he is not the only one selling such vehicles despite the fact that his goods are nice...see your self as a seller, and your articles as your goods.. if someone dose not buy it today, someone else will get it another day

Yup, there is no guarantee, like a lottery. But now the game isn't played fair, where people can buy guaranteed lottery tickets (buying votes) and win each time.

Yup...i concur to that

Failure to achieve goals or desires will cause disappointment in the individual. So also in terms of using steemit, If the disappointment occurs repeatedly and disturb our psychological balance, both from emotions and actions means already in a frustrating situation. Frustration is a desirable expectation but what is desired is not as expected. In addressing a problem must be by controlling emotions, Trying to be patient. Convinced that a problem will have a way out. It means to think positively, even though what we want is not what we expect. We must also change this false mindseed, clean our mind and know ourselves. Doing wrong is part of learning sometimes we need to cry so we know that life is not just limited to laugh. Create passion and immediately talk about each of our plans.

We need to remain passionate about creating content and blogs in steemit without excessive frustration. This is my attitude in using steemit @krnel

Yup, gotta be patient to earn your way up and get recognized by the value of what you do ;)

You already know I am a steembaby but I feel like if someone is creating content with the sole intent to make money with it the quality of said content will likely suffer as a result.

On the other hand, creating things from a place of love, gratitude, and service without expectations inherently improves content quality, and removes pressure to make money which will eventually come in its own natural way.

It could happen that way. Having a motivation to make money isn't a bad thing as long as it isn't the first priority that motivates behavior. The problem on the platform is that many have money as the primary driving force behind their actions ;)

Good post, well stated and it clearly is an apt analogy.
I deal with it myself by pretty much adopting the attitude expressed by @naturowlmystic. I put out content I feel proud of and keep my expectations low. I don't put pressure on myself to SUCCEED knowing that that's the deal. I do what I want instead of chasing after what sells when it ain't gonna sell anyway.

I've read other posts pointing out these flaws, but I'm really not the right person to figure out a good solution. So this may be a stupid question with an obvious answer but why doesn't everyone on the platform just have an equal vote? Is there some reason that would not have worked?

Then people can make multiple accounts, and bots can take most the reward by self voting or voting on dupe accounts.

We are very much stuck in limbo until SMTs come about before we can figure out which problems we can solve with those tools.

One of the biggest problems with Steem is it creates a vast oversupply of blog content with no demand for said content. I am very hopeful that many other proof-of-brain concepts will hit the platform and pay people to do more interesting and productive jobs.

What proof of brain concepts do you have in mind? How to pay people to do more interesting and productive jobs?

The dream of Steemit rewarding valuable content could be achieved, but not without descentralizing the system. The thing is, descentralizing is taking away the power from Steemit (profile), and they dont want that to happen, tho they must know the massive potential this iniciative has.

Yeah it's odd, Ned says he wants to decentralize the power of the steemit account, but only delegates the power to big accounts. I guess that's his choice.

Well spoken, thank you for the post.

In my short time here I have noticed this disparity. I’ve seen a couple posts from people who were quite powerful on the relative scale of the community but were being harassed and stalked by trolls and they were getting their account destroyed in a money perspective. I didn’t know the whole story but it was simply because they disagreed with said person that a war broke out and money was greatly reduced. People dream of becoming a whale but to me it’s similar to real life: more societal pressures and it’s a lot easier to lose money when you’re on top.
I think that the platform here is great and I am interested in it flourishing I just hope that we as a whole community can improve this concept of flagging and it’s appropriate use.

Yeah the features are easily abused because they are no coded limitations or rules for use. It's a free for all... :/

your explanation is very good sir @krnel.
for me life in steemit is the same as life in the real world. in the real world I love fishing. as well as in steemit.
I also fished in steemit this is my activity to find a bite of rice for the baby, will this day I am lucky or even the opposite ..,
what I do today may also have been done by another steemian for whale fishing, but the results of the fishing rod often make a disappointment with his catch, the intention to get a whale instead of his fish. hihihi ....
hopefully it all does not happen to me, today I fished with good intentions expecting good results, may God give sustenance whales in my fishing rod.

if it is frustrating to dedicate 3 hours to research and write 1 article and not be rewarded for our work.
For that reason, many users invest a lot in the paid vote to see if you receive an additional vote or for another user to see it. In my case, I started using bots, since they do not reward me for my work.

I had a post at $2 yesterday, that finally went up more at the end of the day. Nothing is guaranteed, it;s a lottery of getting attention form people who value the work. Buying votes is like buying a guaranteed winning lottery ticket and not playing the fair lottery that everyone else is, it's cheating.

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Yep, exactly why I don't write much quality on here anymore. Some curators will even take it against you if you write for money and expect an upvote from them. Haha. So funny.

Take away flag button to kill negativity from the platform is the only solution