The Dolphin Cocoon Project,
There is a lot of support for those who join steemit and are called Minnows but what happens when your reputation grows strong and you are no longer a minnow? You become a Dolphin with hopefully a nice list of followers behind your name.
All the wonderful projects like curie or OCD do a wonderful job in sharing hope and votes for those who create great content! I take my hat off for those wonderful souls who dedicate their time and voting power to create a wonderful welcome to all the new members this way! There is no better way to start your Steemit journey by feeling and knowing that you are really being seen. After the climb of your reputation, you become a wonderful Dolphin and you are about to dive into to deep and new pool of Steemit!
This is also where most projects stop... You are on your own and at this moment there are no projects who pick up where you left!
I am going to change that!
I want to change that. I want to create a curating guild who will aim to manually curate posts made by Dolphins.
The project!
You don't become a Dolphin by sitting back and watching things fly by. Most Dolphins have worked hard to get where they are now and feel sometimes lost because most projects aim at minnows, which is wonderful btw. It takes time and lots of effort to become a Dolphin. Weeks, months and sometimes even longer. Would it not be fantastic to get something like this going for Dolphins? To keep bringing hope to those who have been here for a while but are still far from being a whale? Would it not be fantastic to know that the effort put into great content will still give you a chance of a curator reading it and sending out a loving vote? Would it not feel amazing that after the long road you traveled there is still a guild aiming at you?
I believe the middle group of Steemit ( Dolphins) Are a huge group of people who have shown to be dedicated to the platform and are still with us all to create, share and spread the word. It does not stop after being a minnow and there is a long road ahead before truning into a whale.
We should not stop seeing them!
There will be no automatic voting, every post will be read, thought about and seriously scanned as good as possible before a vote is given. The Dolphin Cocoon will not be or become a BOT!
Every Dolphin vote will be posted and shared in a daily post so everyone can see what is happening and this will also create more visibility for those accounts shared in said post.
We won't SELL votes! If someone wants to donate some SBD or Steem they are more than welcome to do so.
Money made by the account will either be put back into steempower or send out to help with Charities on the Steemit platform. We aim to grow and to be able to share the Dolphin love among the platform.
What I need!
For this project, I am looking for investors who are willing to delegate steempower to a new account, specially made for this project. I am also looking for serious curators who enjoy reading good content and help me curate the posts shared. I am also looking for input and help!
Are you the person I am looking for?
Contact me on Discord chat under the name @poeticsnake.
You can also find me in the PAL group from the minnow support project.
https://discord.gg/m4etpK
Let's start the Cocoon!
Hi @poeticsnake, this post really strikes a tone with my experience on Steemit. From when I joined five months ago I set my goal to become a dolphin, thinking this would surely enable me to get to a point where I was making a decent enough amount to help me get to my ultimate destination, being fully self-employed. Needless to say, once the infatuation wore off and I learned about the more discouraging/dysfunctional aspects of how Steemit works (or doesn't) I quickly realized that dolphinhood was the "no man's land" of the platform.
I never had even a chance to get @curie 'd, since I put my money where my mouth was and quickly powered up, used @promoted, borrowed delegations, etc. in order to be able to get decent exposure and support other users more easily. It always struck me as odd that people were being rewarded for not investing in the platform (though of course I am aware it is simply unfeasible for many.)
Even though I had around 20K SP (borrowed) all I saw when I looked around was hungry mouths everywhere, and I didn't have the ability to fill them. So I kept getting more to experiment to see "how much is enough?" Turns out, not even 60K SP was really enough. There is such uneven distribution on the platform, and unless you are singled out by some elite clique of whales to get dogpiled on every post (something that I wouldn't even want for myself, think of seeing your every post on trending! For me, that's horrifying, simply because it's monotonous, lame, and stagnatory.)
Anyway, I think @clayboyn and @lexiconical both had really good points here. I'm not yet to the point of being fully jaded, since I have only been around since June. (Not planning on powering down anytime soon.) (Note: I'm not implying that you two are jaded, I just know I'd be a lot more to my wit's end if I'd been around these parts longer! I'm super grateful for the roles you both play in the Steemit community) Also, the idea of Steemit being pretty unprofitable for investors and more about being able to give to others doesn't bother me; it's the main reason why I keep buying STEEM. I see it as potentially paradigm-shifting and in line with the current "hyper-evolution" of the human species that I believe to be occurring. I can look for profit elsewhere. However, I also foresee STEEM being over $10 by the end of next year. It really doesn't matter what the cynics and emotionalists think, because the technical and fundamental analysis doesn't lie. STEEM is still one of the best, most convenient, and widely used blockchains today.
TL;DR
I am very interested in being involved in this project, though I can't offer support of a "whaleish" proportion. IMO dolphins need more support than minnows, who get plenty of "pity votes," often without putting much at risk, as do most dolphins. I like working pretty independently for the most part but perhaps I can be helpful; I'll reach out to you in discord. I can be very stubborn at times and I am willing to lose the $13,000 I've invested into Steemit. I'm not willing to power down.
Sorry for the miniature essay, but I tend to engage to the extreme when something that strikes a chord crosses my path!
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No need to apologize. Your answer helps clarify the article. Especially for a newcomer, like myself, just checking out the platform. You know, the minnow without any resources besides my own writing and curation to chip in.:)
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I agree entirely, but I think the issue is that steemit doesn't really do much to create and empower a "middle class." There's the rich whale accounts, there's the new users, and then there's the people that stick around long enough to not really be new users anymore. Most of my SP is actually used funding Minnow Support like many other dolphins. I actually powered down to be a minnow again because the illusion that dolphin status changed anything in the past was kind of a joke. Then again the same people making the same generic posts are getting tripple digit payouts every day because whale's are only voting the same accounts etc. I believe it's a great idea, I just don't know how much funding you'll be able to get for it since it's mostly dolphins funding the minnow support projects currently. The whales are mostly just selling votes and renting their SP.
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And that is why it's time to change that! :D
I am going to try my up most best to get funding and the help I need because I think it's long overdue for the middle class support! I delegated power to minnow support as well because I think it's amazing to help nem members this way. And I will NOT take that back. When I set my mind to something I am going to work my ass off to get it done.
The funding/power might not be what I have in mind but at least I am creating a spot where the Dolphins will be seen. I am a firm believer that there MUST be at least one amazing whale who reads this and taps his or hers chin and takes the time to think about it for a while.... Then.... Magic happens.
I won't give up until I find that person.
And many smaller delegated powers also make a bigger stake. :D
Thank you so much for your input @clayboyn. Most appreciated <3
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"I actually powered down to be a minnow again because the illusion that dolphin status changed anything in the past was kind of a joke."
You're better off being a minnow and rewarded with minnowcommunism (your posts are over-rewarded because minnow).
Attempt to move up and the cartel of whales keeps you out. Dolphins work way, way harder than minnows for lower compensation. I used to write daily posts far better than what get's Curied, and made a routine 10-14$, more than half of which was my and my girlfriend's votes.
There is no reason to hold Steem except to lose money or give money away. I too am powering down.
"The whales are mostly just selling votes and renting their SP."
Yes, and try doing this as a non-whale, you get witch-hunted. Don't vote the way people like? Witch-hunted. Vote for only a few authors? Witch-hunted.
Steem is full of SJW Robber Barons telling you what to do with what is yours:
https://steemit.com/steem/@lexiconical/code-is-law-only-when-i-want-otherwise-it-s-abuse-the-shaming-syndicate-of-steemit-our-own-brand-of-sjws-and-social-repression
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This comment is exactly what I mean, but you disagreed with mine?
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TLDR: Not disagreeing, having some sort of context confusion here.
No, I wasn't trying to disagree. I thought you were highlighting " who was running the show around Steemit".
It's Whales (the robber barons that run the culture) and minnows (agitating for and receiving minnow communism). Dolphins are the slave labor putting enough content onto the site to keep it from being tossed into the Buzzfeed bin. I totally see the desert Snekky is referring to above.
I'm thinking you may have meant who was running the show at MSP, maybe, but I'm still having trouble sussing out the context. If that's what you meant, yeah, most whales aren't doing a damn thing. Aside from Aggroed, Eturnerx, Ausbitbank, V4Vapid, and myself delegating I don't really see any whales in the delegation list, and lord knows all the DJs, mods, and behind the scenes types (not just at MSP, but SFT, Ramble, etc) are pretty much all...not whales:
https://mspdelegator.herokuapp.com/mspdelegators
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Yes, now you got it. MSP, not steemit.
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Right, sorry about that, I think I misinterpreted the context a little there. (In my defense, I was focusing on "that show" being Steemit, because I'm pretty fed up with "that show" at the moment. I see your context correctly places MSP in the article "that", and it was my focus being elsewhere that caused me to misinterpret.)
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Heh, no need for defense, we are on the same side :)
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It's always been dolphins and minnows running that show. You nailed it.
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I think you mean whales and minnows!
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I spent 4 months helping build minnow support and know all the people involved who do stuff and who don't do a thing except benefit from the stuff others do. I know exactly who does the work and who doesn't.
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We're (I?) having some communication confusion here. I was referring to who "runs the show" around Steemit, with a sort of negative context (robber barons and the plebs begging for scraps).
I think you were talking about who puts in the actual work at places like MSP, SFT, Waves radio, Ramble, other communities. We are in agreement that that work is decidedly not done by the well-known whales.
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Yep, now you got it.
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I get confused when talking fish. I am a Minnow now. But before that I was a Plankton. The Plankton is where I see all these wonderful projects aimed. And I don't think that's a bad thing--I think it's good. Some of those programs helped me as I got started out.
But I don't see many projects aimed at those officially recognized as Minnows. I see folks saying they're for minnows, but it seems to me they just don't want to use the 'Plankton' word.
This isn't to take away from your proposal. I'm certain it will be well-received especially among Dolphins. It's just that, as a Minnow, I get tired of seeing references to Minnow support projects that actually are there to help until one becomes a Minnow. They are in fact Plankton support projects.
I wonder what the subtle inferences would be over time within the Dolphin group. It would, I think, set a sort of precedent: A fish group with support projects only for that fish group. As I understand it now, the groups above have support groups for the ones below. (Maybe the Whales should support the Dolphins?)
I'd worry some about the increased view that those in the upper echelons of steemit care only for themselves. Just look on any given day and find articles about Whale-for-Whale upvotes and you'll see what I mean.
My personal opinion is that we are adults, or try to be. Yes, support groups for fresh Plankton are a great idea. But once one has reached Minnow, True Minnow status, one should be taking responsibility for one's progress and fortune.
We know by now what it takes to succeed here. At some point we take off the training wheels, and this is that point. Every level above is just as responsible for themselves, and doing what they can to help the Plankton, Minnows, and Dolphins swimming in their wake.
The best way to help ourselves is to help the platform, and the best way to do that is to give. We don't need to be coddled. We don't need guarantees. We know that's not the way the world works.
Apologies for such a long post. I perhaps should have created a post on my blog.
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A lot of people are getting tired of this. You nailed it also.
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May I suggest you start a purpose built discord for this? It's a different game than redfish/plankton and minnows with different needs and a different level of users, and I'd vet entrants to make sure they meet something that identifies them as dolphins, perhaps rep/sp and or time served here maybe?
Good call to get on this snekkybabee - I'll see what I can pull from YouAreHOPE and my account to toss a tiny bit into your delegation hat. It will be trivial, but it all adds up.
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I just made the discord channel for it! Like 15 minutes ago I think! Trying to figure it all out atm. All the help is more than welcome for sure! All bits and pieces will help and will make it possible to keep voting for this group. I like all the groups btw, all the helpers etc. I just felt like this group was or I should say is being seen enough. It's not about getting super high votes it about making them feel they still matter and their content is appriciated. Thank you so much for your input!
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Well, if you aren't afraid of my "reputation" lol, I'll help in any way I can that you ever need. Also, I'm dropping this post on someone who may be able to lend a bigger hand, but no promises, I'm just going to make sure the person sees it. They would be the kind of delegator you seek. ;)
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I am not scared of rep. We all are who we are. Good for one, bad for someone else... We might not all see the same way at certain projects or subjects but might be able to see eye to eye on other fronts. I always say I am Switerland in a way. Working together is what matters and makes things possible. If I can get help for this project I am not going to say no :D
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I am at your service. Call on me as you see fit, my dear.
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This right here...this is the way to start. Fully endorse this suggestion, particularly the VETTING (and WILLINGNESS TO KICK OUT MALCONTENTS).
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Great idea. I'd like to help with this where I can. Not a dolphin yet but would appreciate the help once I am.
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Based on the work you put in, you are an honorary dolphin in my book.
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Thank you.
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Thank you @gmuxx. I would sure love your help in this!
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See here, @gmuxx!
I always thought of you as a whale, your persona precedes you LOL!!!
Everything I see about you is POSITIVE! Thanks for being a Great STEEMER...
I Must FOLLOW ;)
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Wow, what a compliment. Thank you.
Me, a whale? I wish lol.
Followed you too.
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I'm on discord a good bit too, lots of positivity there that you are a big part of...
Inspires me to see ACTIVE mid level members, as we will make Steemit what it has the potential to become. Snek-Momma is a great one too ;)
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I have an awful lot of love for Snekky.
I frequent MSP and help run my own Discord for writers. Communities are key to Steemit.
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<3 my full agreement here @gmuxx
@underground you are an amazing steemian.
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LOVE Dat Rose! :*
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Big hugs!
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Being a dolphin I agree. I will still post my art no matter what happen though. I like the community on Steemit.
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I love the community just as much and I would never stop sharing my work here. This platform is amazing on its own already. I just feel the need to step up for the middle class and try to create a new level of hope and fun for those who have been here longer.
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This sounds like a wonderful project and I would like to see it succeed. I'm still a minnow but I see the need, and have over 400 sp so don't qualify for the helper boosts, either.
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I will work hard to get it done. It's something that has been bugging my brain for a while now. If I can make it half as big as I have in my head I will already be super happy!
Thank you so much for your reply!
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If you need any help, you know where to find me dear.
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Everyone should support great content and talent on Steemit regardless of status or level in SP, and yes I agree that people with higher reps and SP sometimes get looked over by certain curation groups. It'll be good for those people who have put in the time to get to dolphin status to still get some support from the community for the content and support they give to the platform. Nice idea @poeticsnake!
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I could not agree more with you! All great content should be supported no matter status or level in SP. The middle class is overlooked, at least that is how I see it. I love the different projects who support the new members and now I feel it's time to create a new level for the Dolphins in a way. If we all keep supporting each other this will always be an amazing place.
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I really do think this is a great idea, I am nowhere near a dolphin but my rep went too high for curie and other projects like that ages ago so there is definitely a market gap to fill there.
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Sorry for my late response!
This is the reason I want to create a good place for those who are dolphins or high in rank!
No matter how long or short you have been here, we all need a purpose, a reason and hope. I want to create this with many new things!
The discord channel is now open as well!
Feel free to join us there!
https://discord.gg/unKuvWm
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This is a WONDERFUL Initiative, Miss SNEK-Momma!
I have activated @ninjawhale for a vote-swarm to promote this post!
50+ votes and a few ¢, INCOMING! lol
I am interested in delegating or donating to the Dolphin Cocoon, I have acted as a Dolphin for quite a while even though I am just a Big Minnow LOL!!!
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Thank you ever so kindly! Really really appreciated!
Wonderful to hear that you are willing to help out!
Would be great if we could connect on Discord for a chat!
I am just a small Dolphin so.... We might make good friends lol
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Always wonderful to make an acquaintance into a Friend! :D
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PS: I cannot find you under @poeticsnake on discord :'(
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Try snekky lol lol
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U found Me, thanx Babe!
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Once I am a Dolphin, I will live as a Jr. WHALE ;)
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Great idea snake! Dolphins definitely need more support in this community and this seems like a great way for those who worked super hard to benefit!
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That is how I feel as well. I just want to create something good for the middle class as well. Might not be with super high votes but it will bring the feeling of still being seen,still being part of the whole Steemit world.
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Great idea babe.
Those of us in the rank of dolphin do indeed have a lot of collective power, we'll have a chat in discord Monday if you're around babe ❤️
Resteemed.
🐬 Power!
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Does only your reputation decides whether you're a
minnow
Dolphin or a
Whale ?
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No, this is based on your steem power.
But you can be a minnow with a high reputation score and that might also push you outside the reach of the projects made for minnows.
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i'm a plankton :(
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No you are new and amazing! :D
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Tqsm :)
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Sheesh!! then... I suspect I must be some kind of stagnant plankton around here nevertheless. If it's about the amount of words I've written through the content of my TL|DR posts & comments, in my blog, so far, I am surely some sort of weird sea anemone. If it's to be measured by the current #4556 position that I occupy in the Steem-Whales ranking, without a doubt, I must be some creepy lonely abyssal fish creature who emits his own light to not to get lost in the darkness. If it's about the amount of SP I've been able to accumulate until now and the total Estimated Value of my account, I prolly must be a transparent nervy jellyfish or something.
And what seems even more odd to me. According the time that I've been posting stuff over here and to the seniority that I already have since I joined steemit... I still insist in perceive and see myself merely like a tusked barracuda.
Yeah! very far away to become myself in a dolphin. But I hope any of those marine specimens mentioned above still qualify to get some support from The Dolphin Cocoon Project anyway my dear @poeticsnake. LoL
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Dolphins have kindof gotten the shaft here on Steemit. Agreed.
What a wonderful surprise it was to wake up in the morning and see that one of my posts had been curated and suddenly had 100s of upvotes. Several times, as a minnow, my blog posts were curated and it really kept me motivated to write additional content as well as to invest more in the platform via Steep power-ups.
Little did I know that I'd be shooting myself in the foot. As soon as I invested in the platform, I was no longer eligible to get any of my posts curated.
I continue to put out daily content on my blog, even though I get much less attention... generally only from my immediate followers.
I think this is sorely needed as there are probably many, many others in my dolphin shoes. (OK... dolphins do not technically wear shoes any more that whales or minnows do.)
Cheers,
@rebele93
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This is the reason I want to change that! Dolphins and high rankers fall off the boat with curations and many support groups! We want to support those who are willing to keep sharing their content and also be able to give out reward for doing so. The dolphins have worked hard and I believe the need more attention! At this moment the Dolphin Cocoon is live and posted for the first time! The Discord channel is already open as well.
Feel free to join us there!
https://discord.gg/unKuvWm
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Hello, I remember you @poeticsnake !
You donated to our common noble cause for the first time exactly 45 days ago. Have a great and prosperous day along with my up-vote! You fed me with 8 STEEM already but you can always make me stronger, if you want to. It will enable me to help you and your friends more often.
Yours, Spinny
I like very much when everyone who feeds me also reads my friend’s posts, so please visit @princeso and read what he has to say! Your name will also appear here. :-) Join my Discord server if you want to meet others: https://discord.gg/Mz2EZP3
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Good initiate. I am not a Dolphin and may never will though if you need assistance to setup bots etc, I can contribute
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We allready connected but I still wanted to say thank you for your reply and offer for help! Much appreciated
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:-)
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Wonderful idea my friend. I would like to ask a question. Where is a reputation score cut off for minnows, dolphins and whales? At what number does one stop being an minnow and is a dolphin or whale? Also how high does the number system go. I have only seen a 76. Thanks again. Great post.
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Its more about steem power than rep. There are whales with negative reps and minnows in the 60s. I believe the top is 80 btw and the bottom is -15 or -9, i cant recall now, brain glitch, ive seen it documented but its been months since then.
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Bernie sanders is - 19, it's the lowest I've seen so far :D
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Yeah true. I do recall him hitting that now. Though i think he came back up a bit lately didnt he?
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I hereby do solemnly pledge to do everything in my power to help this cause!
As a tiny minnow there is a lot I need to learn about the platform and @poeticsnake has been the single most helpful person I have been fortunate to meet. She’s like the star ⭐️ in the nativity story that guides the way.
So I want to repay her help - that’s what friends do.
But also - this is actually a brilliant idea and one worth pursuing. Minnows have a lot of help but dolphins get stuck in the water. One day I aim to be a dolphin 🐬 and I would not want to be in that position when it’s my turn.
Snekky - I am at your service! Just tell me what to do!
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keep going , I like your work !
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Thank you and I sure will.
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Agreed with Clay's points above. Resteemed.
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@poeticsnake - not a dolphin yet (by a long way) but wish I was because this seems to be such a great initiative and something that is much needed from what I can see around me. The artwork is beautiful by the way. If there's anything that a minnow can do to help (other than upvoting and resteeming the article) please let me know :)
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This is realy nice
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Sounds worthy. I'll try to catch up with you about the particulars.
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Would be great! You can find me on Discord most hours of the day!
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@poeticsnake :
We both connected, talked about it etc, but I think I should be writing about the reasons why I thought the project is a good idea. I am not even a plankton and I am not very bothered about the social status / VP / SP etc & I would like to focus on the artistic side of things in me and others as well technology. That being said, we need an eco-system that supports growth.
Why Silicon Valley is repeatedly the place with all the cool and groovy startups with their sky rocketing real estate prices and stuff ?
I think its quite simple. They have an ecosystem to support, retain talent. If someone fails, even then there are means to find opportunities, share experiences and move ahead. Unlike many countries regulations support a free market / Ayn Rand world out there. The same community aspect is valid everywhere. Whether someone is an amoeba, plankton, minnow, dolphin or a whale, there has to be a community, a society that pushes towards a direction which is in general good of people all over. I originally joined here after seeing the active social network, but later realized that its all about the favor banks (vote banks - though I would refer to that using Paulo Coelho's Favor bank theme). For the long term sustainability there has to be support systems and communities at every level, micro communities as opposed to gigantic groups / associations which will fail eventually. No one can show us the path to freedom and truth but we can do good to our immediate surroundings irrespective of the returns and good things will happen. Projects like MSP are pushing us to the threshold of success and then we need further guidance along the way to reach next level, I would define the next level as adding more value to the community as opposed to oneself. The next levels will eventually help everyone including the member contributing. We just need to focus on the right things and eventually it will rise against the monetary aspects of people taking out money via bots/delegations and stuff. An example is what happened to digg.com which collapsed in just 5 - 7 days from world's top portal to nothing. Yes, there might have been external business reasons behind it but the large part it was the community coming together. So all in all I believe this is a good initiative which will do lot of good things to the community as a whole and in the process to Dolphins as well.
PS: I am a non-follower of Jiddu Krishnamoorthy and thus like his ideas and thats highly influenced what I have written here as well as every community I am part of.
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🍎 henlo snek 🍏
I am approximately five days behind in my votes//to comments ratio, and scrambling to catch up on the ones that truly matter which aren't just pleasantries. As I've said elsewhere, I'm available for whatever you may need~
Creating a fatter middle class is key to retention and to platform stability, but also encourages a group that tends to vote both up and down, and who has a greater handle on the responsibilities of networking, cheerleading, and curating thoughtfully.
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I love your energy and positivity @poetsnake and you know you have my support and love. I want to help in any way I can. My dream is to work together to continue making Steemit grow and encourage others in the production and curation of uplifting and quality content. I'm still a minnow but I see the gaps and with community I know that Dolphins will be encouraged to forge ahead. I invest all my steem back to the community and hope to be able to delegate from my growth. Ping me if you need me. I'm still struggling with seasonal migraines, but I don't think they will last forever (although it feels that way currently!)
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