RE: Steem Basic Income 72h Raffle #14 (win lifetime upvotes on all your posts) / Once more: Increased Prize-pool!!!

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in steembasicincome •  7 years ago 

We just need a country brave enough to try this and I hope and think this will be Finland! On paper there is literally no negative point to it.

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  ·  7 years ago 

...forced redistribution of wealth (theft) is morally indefensible.
State control over their populations.
Slaves to the state.
Free basic income is communistic control through the back door..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/universal-basic-income-finland-useless-says-trade-union-a7571966.html

...just sayin'...

  ·  7 years ago 

UBI doesn't redistribute wealth in a welfare state! It just guarantees a fair distribution of taxes to all people in the community.

  ·  7 years ago 

...taxes are theft ( a forced redistribution of wealth)

.... how they are distributed is irrelevant.

It's like the bank robbers discussing the most equitable way of splitting their heist..

  ·  7 years ago 

Looks like you do not live in a welfare state.

To call taxes theft is just not true in a welfare state and in general. Of course there are a bunch of taxes that are way to high or just not necessary but to call taxes in general theft is just not right

  ·  7 years ago 

Theft = A coerced transfer of assets.

How is this not philosophically correct?

No one pays tax voluntarily - and if you don't pay, an authority penalizes you by asset forfeiture or prison.

How is this not theft - through threats of aggressive action against you, if you do not comply??

  ·  7 years ago 

Yeah but still you are glad to use the infrastructure (roads, public transportation,...), healthcare, climate change prevention and many more.

As I said sure there are a bunch of taxes that are to high or not really necessary but many of them serve a purpose and you will get something back in return.

  ·  7 years ago 

Yeah but.....

So if a crime is committed - but you benefit - it's acceptable..?

Intellectually - and morally- dishonest.

  ·  7 years ago 

since all benefit you can't call it a crime. But yeah if some people are narcissistic enough to not see the bigger picture it is more than fair to force them to pay it. As I preciously said I'm not ok with all the taxes but I just do not get those people saying they do not wanna pay a single tax but still using the infrastructure, are happy to go to hospitals, ...