I think I caught a brief glimpse of the charge controller on the SolarWave Yacht reading just over 5kw. That's awesome output from the amount of panels.
I also noted that the power to the engines appeared to be ~10kw each with underway, which is also awesome, as it's not a great deal of horsepower to get that big boat up and moving.
The panel on my truck is about 100W, which isn't enough to run much directly, but does charge up my battery bank well. That is peak power, and I get less in practice. Still, with 4 ordinary vehicle batteries I was able to run my laptop for a week before I needed to push start the truck and run the alternator again.
Have you looked at panels, controllers, and batteries much yet?
Welp, you're definitely on the right track. A charge controller is pretty important too.
I had an idea considering how you might dramatically increase the square footage you can draw power from. It's a secret invention, but I'll tell you:
Tow those flexible panels behind the boat too. Since they're flat there'll be almost no drag, and if they won't float, you can pretty easily stick 'em on super light inflatables. Shouldn't take much to keep 'em afloat, but the wiring might be a bit heavier. A couple cork net floats oughta keep that up top too.
Now I've shared my latest $Billion idea with you, so you owe me a beer at least, or if you patent it, 1% of gross receipts. Deal?
The weight of the wire would be necessary to consider in solar kites. You'd need no electrical wire with just kinetic (aero) power from kites. Windy much in Bastrop? I know it's sunny.
It was 104 here the other day, but luckily I got to work inside. Still too damn hot, but better indoors than out.
Now, you're not trying to wriggle out of my beer are you?
BTW, with rigid barges, it is easier to steer them by pushing. With the right rigging. Mostly, though, a rope isn't the right rigging, and towing is the easy way. Steering is laggier with a tow though, and if you consider how force is applied in pushing, and compare that with how it's applied in towing, it's easy to see why.
pretty cool concept. would be smart if they placed small water turbines underneath as well to keep trickle charging the batteries.
Its all about increasing the efficiency o the energy that your expelling to regenerate for use later. If your travelling forward, then you have wasted energy if your not capturing that kinetic energy via a wind or water turbine.
Well, turbines aren't 100% efficient, so trying to gain power from charging via an underwater turbine while powering your motors via solar, won't gain you power, but will instead lose it. Your forward motion costs say, 4kw per hour. The hydroturbine setup would then cause power losses when generating power, as every joule that powered it would come from motion caused by the motors moving you forward (which also aren't perfectly efficient), and then the turbine is say 90% efficient, meaning that even at that awesome efficiency rating, you're losing 10% of the power you're using to generate the power in the turbine - and that ignores drag on the hull, and other losses such as the energy expended in moving the inertial mass.
There's no perpetual energy motion machine, and all equipment experiences losses. This is why superconduction is so sexeh, because superconduction is lossless.
In a current while at rest, however, such a rig might well produce significant power.
My concept doesn't break the laws of dynamics it's just harnessing undocumented energy.
The boat will travel forward under the power of your motor.
If the forward energy that is already present, is used to turn a permanent magnet motor it will create current.
It may not be enough to power the boat and it's in no way a perpetual energy system. But that forward energy exists and it can effectively be captured for battery charging to supplement solar or wind power.
I've actually built and tested one in my workshop.
And it worked.
It was a pump system, I diverted water through a turbine to spin a motor.
The flow rates weren't effected which meant no extra draw on the pump.
The turbine didn't generate enough to cover the pump power but it did recover energy.
We actually did it with 3 turbines in a row but only had 1 motor. But still it was possible to recover energy from a water system.
This was obviously made as a dedicated system, but water is being pumped everywhere, what's not to say you can't capture some of that hydraulic and kinetic energy for use elsewhere.
love it id love one
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I think I caught a brief glimpse of the charge controller on the SolarWave Yacht reading just over 5kw. That's awesome output from the amount of panels.
I also noted that the power to the engines appeared to be ~10kw each with underway, which is also awesome, as it's not a great deal of horsepower to get that big boat up and moving.
The panel on my truck is about 100W, which isn't enough to run much directly, but does charge up my battery bank well. That is peak power, and I get less in practice. Still, with 4 ordinary vehicle batteries I was able to run my laptop for a week before I needed to push start the truck and run the alternator again.
Have you looked at panels, controllers, and batteries much yet?
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thank you.
yes...the investigation is proceeding.
I'm considering DEEP discharge solar batteries.
and flexible solar panels.
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Welp, you're definitely on the right track. A charge controller is pretty important too.
I had an idea considering how you might dramatically increase the square footage you can draw power from. It's a secret invention, but I'll tell you:
Tow those flexible panels behind the boat too. Since they're flat there'll be almost no drag, and if they won't float, you can pretty easily stick 'em on super light inflatables. Shouldn't take much to keep 'em afloat, but the wiring might be a bit heavier. A couple cork net floats oughta keep that up top too.
Now I've shared my latest $Billion idea with you, so you owe me a beer at least, or if you patent it, 1% of gross receipts. Deal?
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oddly enough.
I've already had that very same
(or very similar)
idea.
it came to me..
not in a dream
but watching
push barges.
reckon how many 'panel barges' the steem dreem could push.
BUT WAIT
I haz a better idea.
in stead of pushing.
why not
BE PULLED.
by a flying solar panel array?
A KITE
made from thin, flexible, light weight,
solar panels?
it'd need a long wire.
but what the hell?
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The weight of the wire would be necessary to consider in solar kites. You'd need no electrical wire with just kinetic (aero) power from kites. Windy much in Bastrop? I know it's sunny.
It was 104 here the other day, but luckily I got to work inside. Still too damn hot, but better indoors than out.
Now, you're not trying to wriggle out of my beer are you?
BTW, with rigid barges, it is easier to steer them by pushing. With the right rigging. Mostly, though, a rope isn't the right rigging, and towing is the easy way. Steering is laggier with a tow though, and if you consider how force is applied in pushing, and compare that with how it's applied in towing, it's easy to see why.
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if/when we ever meet up...I'll drink you under the table.
and I'll pay the tab.
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I'll start practicing now. OTOH, it's not so bad under tables, depending on the company, and how short their skirts are =p
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if you recall I said I'd drink you under the table.
I din't say whether or not I'd be under it with you.
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wow! cool! i love sun energy! where is it?
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the sun is about 93 million miles away
look up
perhaps you've seen it?
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meep
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I like the house trailer on a barge!
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it's a travel trailer that floats.
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In one of the pics was a trailer on a barge... That's the one for me!
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here you go
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The third pic up (the video) has a barge with a trailer in the left background... That's the one for me! I like comfort in my old age!
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this is a wonderful concept
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thank you
stay tuned
I'm going to blog the whole project
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pretty cool concept. would be smart if they placed small water turbines underneath as well to keep trickle charging the batteries.
Its all about increasing the efficiency o the energy that your expelling to regenerate for use later. If your travelling forward, then you have wasted energy if your not capturing that kinetic energy via a wind or water turbine.
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Well, turbines aren't 100% efficient, so trying to gain power from charging via an underwater turbine while powering your motors via solar, won't gain you power, but will instead lose it. Your forward motion costs say, 4kw per hour. The hydroturbine setup would then cause power losses when generating power, as every joule that powered it would come from motion caused by the motors moving you forward (which also aren't perfectly efficient), and then the turbine is say 90% efficient, meaning that even at that awesome efficiency rating, you're losing 10% of the power you're using to generate the power in the turbine - and that ignores drag on the hull, and other losses such as the energy expended in moving the inertial mass.
There's no perpetual energy motion machine, and all equipment experiences losses. This is why superconduction is so sexeh, because superconduction is lossless.
In a current while at rest, however, such a rig might well produce significant power.
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thermo god damics
is not just a good idea
it's the
LAW
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My concept doesn't break the laws of dynamics it's just harnessing undocumented energy.
The boat will travel forward under the power of your motor.
If the forward energy that is already present, is used to turn a permanent magnet motor it will create current.
It may not be enough to power the boat and it's in no way a perpetual energy system. But that forward energy exists and it can effectively be captured for battery charging to supplement solar or wind power.
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I was gonna say 'perpetual energy'.
good luck with that.
let us know how it works out.
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I've actually built and tested one in my workshop.
And it worked.
It was a pump system, I diverted water through a turbine to spin a motor.
The flow rates weren't effected which meant no extra draw on the pump.
The turbine didn't generate enough to cover the pump power but it did recover energy.
We actually did it with 3 turbines in a row but only had 1 motor. But still it was possible to recover energy from a water system.
This was obviously made as a dedicated system, but water is being pumped everywhere, what's not to say you can't capture some of that hydraulic and kinetic energy for use elsewhere.
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do it.
take videos
show us how well it works.
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Sadly I wasn't the inventor just helping but I'd happily put you in contact with him if you'd like
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ah...I see.
no thank you
I appreciate the thought.
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