With the implementation of steemit Promoted content there has been much talk on post visibility and curation. The thought for an up vote multiplier came up in a comment by @mark-waser in response to @calaber24p's post Better New User Experience saying essentially that we need to give more power to new users... in order to make them feel like they have an impact on the platform and to keep them around.
Now I do agree that most new users may not have the best luck or experience during their first couple of posts. I understand it may be frustrating to work on a post for hours and have it amount to $.05 or even $0.00 in rewards. This doesn't mean we should be giving every new user the ability to earn more from less powerful votes or even give more with less power. There is a way for newer, steem lacking, users to contribute more effectively and that would be an UpVote Multiplier option. At the cost of their Voting Power % any user could multiply their vote up to 10 fold. This would allow them to give a post everything they got when it comes to curation and visibility.
How would this work?
Possible Solutions
Only for users under 100M Vested (Current Minimum for Slider Voting Percentage)
Using the multiplier would dramatically decrease your voting power
I think this would be important to have the multiplying for your vote be a serious decision and would limit the use of its potential $ power.
Example Formula below: Regular Vote % Cost = Rv | Multiplier = M | New Voting % Cost = NRv
NRv = (Rv(M)) + ((M)2)
I'll use myself as an example
Base: I just Upvoted a post and it cost me 1 % of my voting power and the post received $.11
If I were to give this vote a 4x Multiplier using the above formula (my voting % cost would be)
12% = (1 * 4) + (4*2)
This would result in $.44 going to the upvoted post
If I were to give this vote a 10x Multiplier using the above formula (my voting % cost would be)
30% = (1 * 10) + (10*2)
This would result in $1.10 going to the upvoted post!
You can see at this point my vote is worth a hell of a lot more and the post have a much higher chance of trending
especially when compiled onto of other votes
This was by giving a bigger reward to a post it will cost you.
Potential UI designs for the Upvote Multiplier
Although I think this would end up creating massive rewards (too high) I designed UI designs for users who currently have the pop up slider
As you can see in the designs I also agree with @summon on his idea for having the % editing able for more accurate voting
Some potential problems?
Users overusing the Multiplier and limiting themselves to a very small number of votes per 24 hours.
This may cause a lot less interactions (upvotes and comments) overall on the platform.
However I feel as though (Myself Included) many users only upvote a few times a day right now and new users from lack of ability to impact the upvoted post , don't up vote at allI really want to open this up to a solid discussion so please comment and get it rolling
Look forward to the comments, concerns, ideas, concepts , and everything in between.
Blue
What would you think of some sort of promotion voting (non vote power using) that could be used each day. It wouldn't make a post more money, but would make it more visible depending on steem power. This is a very early thought, but if something like that was implemented if you found a great article and wanted to bump it up without necessarily having a lot of voting power left, I believe that would encourage people to vote (I don't know how monetizing would work or even if this is feasible).
I think new users may get discouraged that their vote really does almost nothing to a post with an upvote. I think for sure people should at least be able to upvote two or three times. Maybe not unlimited, because that much power could cause corruption among less scrupulous whales, but I do think sometimes it is unfortunate that content we absolutely love can only get one part of our voting power.
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Interesting Idea, but yes the monetizing aspect would come into play. I do think losing extra voting power would work in this case because as you can see from most of the accounts on steemit everyones voting power is around 70-100 % even very active accounts have a high voting power. One of the reasons why people get discouraged is that their posts don't get a lot of $$$ off the bat. With more people voting , more often, even small posts that are making $.05 could be making $1 and even though that doesn't seem like much I think it is. Dollars add up!
By giving people little more say in how their power is distributed I think they will have a tendency to use up that Voting Power, and thats a good thing. Think I said in the post i don't vote enough personally , i am very busy lately and it hard to get on and up vote good content. I could could just go and up vote randomly to help people get motivated but i think this is the wrong move. Having better content pushed to the top with more accurate voting is what is really needed. With more power these new users may become more active and stay active , instead of abandoning their accounts... from @dantheman's latest post I think he would agree we need this.
Having the Multiplier get cut off right when the adjustable voting % slider is available would eliminate the miss use by whales I think.
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Ya I believe that getting new users excited with even a small amount will be really important for the long term goal to have more people reading and creating content. Definitely agree on a cut off for the vote slider. You have really good ideas @blueorgy (have you revealed the reason behind your username before? Always have wondered).
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I think I might do a funny little post asking people to guess ;)
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Haha A Smurf threesome is my guess, but I'll have to expound on that for the contest
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I like the idea and it is good to see this starting to be looked at.
I tend to think the perceived problem as it stands is that it doesn't have the feel content matters, just the authors at this point. This could potentially exacerbate the problem. AuthorX always does well, I 10x vote Authorx for the curation and never look back... or at anything else.
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Yes that is defiantly a potential problem... hmm maybe more limitations should be added to the multiplier.
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Good thoughts, I think a good set of rules coded right into the multiplier would get a lot of problems solved. Much testing would be required.
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You touched on something I talked about a couple days ago.... Upvote per username. The basics...
Curation rewards have a sliding scale... The sooner you vote the more it says you support the author. What if that was changed to how often you vote for same author?
So day 1 I vote for author x he gets 75% of my vote and I get 25%
Day 2 I vote again..... 80/20
Day 3 85/15
The same argument applies. If I vote for the same authors every day, it becomes obvious they are the reason I return and why shouldn't they get a larger share of my vote each time?
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A sliding scale sounds very interesting and would be a possible method of eliminating self bot votes from multiple accounts and aimless votes for followed users. But I do also agree that some users you actually do read, interact, comments, and enjoy these authors should get the large share of your vote. Good Points.
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I think this is brilliant...?? agree with me?
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Well I do ;)
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Haha this is awesome 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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thanks!! ✊✊
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Very well thought out and illustrated. Could be a good option UPVOTED!
I hope that as more and more of us build our Steempower that voting will ven out more and more.
I try and do my best to provide quality.
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This is a great idea. I'm new and rarely ever go under 80% in voting power. So new users would use probably use this all the time.
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I agree that new users would use this more often, moving that .002 to a actual seen value on a post would help them feel much more involved! Plus being more active helps in all aspects of the platform.
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could the decimal place on the payout display be moved to 3 or even 4 so that the smaller voters can actually see some movement? so instead of 10.03 it would be like 10.0354. Nothing more frustrating then upvoting and seeing zero effect.
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Also an interesting idea. I think the 2 decimal place is really just for familiarity and UI space , but yes the $0 is defiantly a frustrating thing to see for new users that don't even know they actually may have had an impact.
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I don't see this as fundamentally different than the current voting weight (and reducing the maximum daily number of votes). Everyone can already scale the strength of their votes on the blockchain, it's just a matter of adding it to the UI.
In a sense we could limit everyone to 1 vote per day and redefine a "vote" as 5% of 10% of the current vote weight that everyone uses. That would also help equalize the organic vs bot curation playing field. Right now, achieving the optimal ~40 upvotes/day is quite difficult for regular users, so getting maximum curation rewards requires a lot of time that most of us can't afford to spend. It'd be nice if one could use their voting power for the day in its entirety split among a few posts if they're are worth it, as opposed to using only a fraction of your potential influence on the platform and being outperformed by bots.
Overall I like the idea.
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It is a great idea.
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Great Idea.
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I would like to have this function, nice idea guys!
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I am all for this option. Since I look around at the 25-40 reps, I would like to have the power to give them and additional bump. I would use my superpower for good, not evil.
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This is good and bad at the same time. But I think should always be an option.
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Good idea for more thought and engaging more writers before discouragement sets in.
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It seems like this would overcomplicate voting to me. I think it's best to keep things simpler if we want mass adoption.
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Valid Point.
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I think this is a terrific idea. But I am concerned with potential abuses. In addition to the rapid reduction of voting power, what if there was also limited number of uses or a cool-down period.
My biggest fear of this feature would be the bots controlling an army of spammed accounts that would all use the multiplier on a post. Maybe also limit the number of multiplied upvotes on a single post. Whether that be an absolute limit or a percent of votes limit.
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Yes that could be a possible other rule or restriction but also blocking people from doing just because a bunch of low multiplier votes came in wouldn't be fair in a way. All hypothetical of course but yes I touched on added a "cool Down" type with only allowing 5 Multiplier votes per 24 hours
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I like the idea....
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