I actually disagree with abit on whether the post is reward-worthy. The reason being it points to a very serious problem with the rep system. Downvotes from high SP users, including casual ones over mildly inappropriate content or even misclicks or "drunk downvotes" can cause very serious damage to reputation.
Further I disagree with having initialized the rep scores based on old downvotes that were never intended to have that effect at the time they were made (since the effect did not exist).
Looking at alphabeta's past posts, he's someone who has been active in the community, involved with mining, but is not a star blogger or whale who can easily accumulate a lot of positive rep points allowing him to withstand even a single whale (or semi-whale, maybe even less) downvote. Having both the possibility and the reality of such severe and long-term damage to any user's Steem experience due to one single click from anyone is not a favorable path forward. Even that one single person happens to be the lead developer and founder. Perhaps especially then.
Thank you for pointing this out alphabeta. I gave you an upvote and restored your rep.
Yes, I fully agree. I've been crying everywhere that everyone should have started with a reputation of 0 and go from there. Maybe have the rep system separated from steem power - every steemian has the same rep power that will move your level a very tiny bit ? That would mean you would have to get flagged by lets say 50 people to get into - rep and upvoted by a lot if you wanted + rep.
The issue is without considering SP it is too easy for abusers to sign up a bunch of free accounts and wreak havoc. Overall this is a very hard problem, but I'm glad we were able to resolve things here.
I would suggest to distribute some part of the daily distribution to all fully verified accounts
as #basicincome or #universaldividend.
This steady income could encourage participation from newcomers.
Managing the list of fully verified account can function like this:
Similar like the witnesses vote now for the blockchain, they or a separate list of witnesses vote for a list of fully verified accounts. The verification itself could be done through local meetups and or video chat.
Further I disagree with having initialized the rep scores based on old downvotes that were never intended to have that effect at the time they were made (since the effect did not exist).
Yes! I wish the devs would listen to you about this.
I am not sure how the algorithm work. I believed someone had higher reputation had downvote you. Unfortunately, my reputation is too low to restore you. You can ask a person with reputation 8 or higher to vote on your post or comment to restore it. Or, you can make a post like me asking for help.
Please help me out! I don't know where to go or who to talk to. I was told to contact you. I tried writing a blog about my situation, but it's invisible to the community I believe. If you can't help me can you please point me in some kind of direction. Thanks.
Honestly! Thank you to the steemit community for helping me out of that hole!! I was so bummed this morning! I will pay it back to the steemit community!
I'm in the same boat! I've enjoyed the steemit commuinty, and even had help and motivation to quit smoking from steemit. I didn't visit steemit for a a few days and come back to a (-6). I tried to write a blog to ask what's going on, but my blogs are invisible! I'm not a bot either! I just upgraded my SD to SP the other day , and then get basically banned! I've tried to contact anyone that will listen. I read a post that says get on slack to appeal my reputation, but slack is saying its down for maintenance. That's been two days now.
This is so pointless! No one is going to take the time to look at this shot lol! Oh well! I guess all good things must come to an end. I fucking hate it! I just don't understand!! If I did something wrong I want to fix it!!
How do directly contact someone on steemit? Is there a way to PM someone? I've tried writing a blog like this to seek help, but my blogs are invisible!!
I wish I had enough SP to upvote you to one million dollars!! You were the first person to help me get this fixed! I'm forever grateful for you! I hope I can return the favor one day!
I wanted to correct your bad rep. But I don't think this post deserve high payout. Write something better? Or perhaps write a low-quality post with author reward disabled?
Its interedting to me that flagged content is a reputation metric. Granted, the dophins and whales who flag content typically undersrand that a flag means malicious content. Butbwhat about new users who are really looking for a downvote button - who dont understand that flagging isnt the content but the source of content?
I actually disagree with abit on whether the post is reward-worthy. The reason being it points to a very serious problem with the rep system. Downvotes from high SP users, including casual ones over mildly inappropriate content or even misclicks or "drunk downvotes" can cause very serious damage to reputation.
Further I disagree with having initialized the rep scores based on old downvotes that were never intended to have that effect at the time they were made (since the effect did not exist).
Looking at alphabeta's past posts, he's someone who has been active in the community, involved with mining, but is not a star blogger or whale who can easily accumulate a lot of positive rep points allowing him to withstand even a single whale (or semi-whale, maybe even less) downvote. Having both the possibility and the reality of such severe and long-term damage to any user's Steem experience due to one single click from anyone is not a favorable path forward. Even that one single person happens to be the lead developer and founder. Perhaps especially then.
Thank you for pointing this out alphabeta. I gave you an upvote and restored your rep.
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Thank you very much @smooth. I couldn't agree more with you. You got my Witness Vote.
And thank you all who voted for me.
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Yes, I fully agree. I've been crying everywhere that everyone should have started with a reputation of 0 and go from there. Maybe have the rep system separated from steem power - every steemian has the same rep power that will move your level a very tiny bit ? That would mean you would have to get flagged by lets say 50 people to get into - rep and upvoted by a lot if you wanted + rep.
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The issue is without considering SP it is too easy for abusers to sign up a bunch of free accounts and wreak havoc. Overall this is a very hard problem, but I'm glad we were able to resolve things here.
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@smooth It looks like this is already happening and on a mass scale...
https://steemit.com/test/@quin/test-do-not-upvote-please
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I like the advantages. It seems like more users benefit from it than don't. It just stinks for the unhappy few that don't haha.
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Well then maybe have some kind of a minimal SP treshold that is attainable by normal people in a few weeks of steeming.
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I would suggest to distribute some part of the daily distribution to all fully verified accounts
as #basicincome or #universaldividend.
This steady income could encourage participation from newcomers.
Managing the list of fully verified account can function like this:
Similar like the witnesses vote now for the blockchain, they or a separate list of witnesses vote for a list of fully verified accounts. The verification itself could be done through local meetups and or video chat.
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this needs discussing!!
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@smooth, Can you help more??
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Yes! I wish the devs would listen to you about this.
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I have upvoted you to help you. I now have a reputation of -4, not sure what I did wrong and how the reputation algorithm exactly works.
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I am not sure how the algorithm work. I believed someone had higher reputation had downvote you. Unfortunately, my reputation is too low to restore you. You can ask a person with reputation 8 or higher to vote on your post or comment to restore it. Or, you can make a post like me asking for help.
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Anyone with positive reputation can help restore it, but more SP gives a stronger effect.
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I see.
You are a great asset for the community, helping newbies and the needed.
Thank you.
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Looks like someone flagged you for "tag abuse" here
I'll upvote you and hopefully remove the negative rep
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Please help me out! I don't know where to go or who to talk to. I was told to contact you. I tried writing a blog about my situation, but it's invisible to the community I believe. If you can't help me can you please point me in some kind of direction. Thanks.
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Honestly! Thank you to the steemit community for helping me out of that hole!! I was so bummed this morning! I will pay it back to the steemit community!
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hi smooth!
i am following this guy here, please have a look at his post, i liked it very much!
https://steemit.com/steemit/@capitalism/captalism-1-will-steemit-become-a-platform-for-100-000-micro-magazines
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Thanks @smooth, I have a +reputation again
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please help me
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Thanks for upvoting me! I have a positive reputation again :smile:
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I'm in the same boat! I've enjoyed the steemit commuinty, and even had help and motivation to quit smoking from steemit. I didn't visit steemit for a a few days and come back to a (-6). I tried to write a blog to ask what's going on, but my blogs are invisible! I'm not a bot either! I just upgraded my SD to SP the other day , and then get basically banned! I've tried to contact anyone that will listen. I read a post that says get on slack to appeal my reputation, but slack is saying its down for maintenance. That's been two days now.
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This is so pointless! No one is going to take the time to look at this shot lol! Oh well! I guess all good things must come to an end. I fucking hate it! I just don't understand!! If I did something wrong I want to fix it!!
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My advice to you is to contact @smooth. And ask him to take a look.
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How do directly contact someone on steemit? Is there a way to PM someone? I've tried writing a blog like this to seek help, but my blogs are invisible!!
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Just reply to his comment that he can see.
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I wish I had enough SP to upvote you to one million dollars!! You were the first person to help me get this fixed! I'm forever grateful for you! I hope I can return the favor one day!
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This reputation system sucks.
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@alphabeta I am also in you predicament. https://steemit.com/reputation/@mrzazaful/thank-you-for-you-help-still-more-to-do
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You do the right thing to asking the community for help. Hope you get your rep back soon.
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Thanks for the help! And congratulations on your success in doing the same.
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I wanted to correct your bad rep. But I don't think this post deserve high payout. Write something better? Or perhaps write a low-quality post with author reward disabled?
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Thanks @abit,
I will do a post again when I have a chance. But, I don't know how to disable reward.
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There is no UI to disable reward yet.
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Thanks for the info.
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Hello, What is the difficulty like now?
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This really is the best community.
Its interedting to me that flagged content is a reputation metric. Granted, the dophins and whales who flag content typically undersrand that a flag means malicious content. Butbwhat about new users who are really looking for a downvote button - who dont understand that flagging isnt the content but the source of content?
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Very high, lots of bots are mining. If you're lucky you might get 1 block a day with an i7 4 threads.
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