I am a man and can admit when I am wrong about something. Based on a few tests I had performed, it seems that YouTube does not increment the view counter on Steemit embedded videos.
This doesn't necessarily mean that Jonny's video received more than 100 views but I cannot say for certain that it did not. In any case, this will be a good thing for Jonny as his followers will likely go to YouTube to contribute a view increment that may coincidentally redirect traffic to Steem.
I spent some time on SteemSpeak hearing perspectives that are not my own and have a better idea of what Jonny puts into his shows at least. I did note that for the amount of votes he is buying. I think we at least need to see some Michael Bay explosions or some shit. The way I see it, if anybody buy votes, they better be prepared to deliver in terms of quality.
We need to make vote buying a risky business.
If people don't want to rely on organic votes like us normal folk, there needs to be more stringent standards. We need to be our own worst critics but it may be a good idea to ask a friend. Just saying.
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Sorry, folks, this serial 'trender' is just too damn much for me. I am not impressed by his little booze show. It's cliché as hell and that's cool some people are into that sort of thing. All 36 of you on this vid (hell maybe I'll help generate some traffic for the poor guy)...
In my opinion, this content is really lame considering the extent of upvotes that are paid. The ratio is bonkers. I don't know how I got through watching it with it's whopping 24 views at the time. Damn near a miracle but I did it. Some may be asking. Why is this dude consistently on trending? Well.
If only there were a market for pretentious assholes, this guy would be in luck....
Oh wait...
Ahhh. Now it's making sense.
387.52 SBD (Partial return) in paid votes and don't forget about the $239 @Booster vote.
Why did I choose to write about ol' Jonny boy? We know there are a lot of accounts doing this type of thing. They "walk around" the platform all puffed up like a rooster but a number of us know there really ain't a whole lot of substance to the strut.
The guy even decided to downvote me because he knew he couldn't tangle with me in the arena of words. Instead, he would opt to use the SP he got by being a good bullshitter and having friends in high places. When it comes to truth and dealing it, the guy is not my peer.
The YouTube views really say enough. It's pathetic.
The guys post had 876 votes but, according to YouTube (suspect the guy isn't using @dtube probably on account of @heimindanger Clean Trending Operation which makes sense for a fellow like him). Honestly, if this is what yall wanna do with the platform. Be my guest
But there IS actually interesting content out there if we would just spend a bit of time finding it.
If you're not checking out "New" on the regular or finding undervalued content to upvote, you are doing it wrong! How about we cooperate to really make Steem shine? Think plenty of us have had enough. We need some GENUINELY (keyword) fresh content on Trending.
You want Steem to moon? 🌙
Then, do your job and curate. Plankton, minnows, and whales gotta work together! Enough with the snake oil and fake it till you make people. We need real talent and we'll see some real gains, not merely speculative.
Some of them are just waiting to be found. Hook 'em up! 🎣
By the way, forgot to mention my idea for a booze show that is actually interesting if I do say so myself. It will be called:
Script Or Shots
Premise will be that some coding buddies and I challenge each other to a few rudimentary scripting tasks but if you get any type of errors. BOTTOMS UP! Could be shots or some cold brews. As long as we aren't running scripts against the temperamental publically available Steem RPC nodes. Think we'll be alright.
Who's Up for some Script or Shots!
Why don't you find some abuse to fight instead of attacking a guy who is creating real content and trying to launch it?
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This is what I just posted to a comment calling everyone who voted a "groupie".
We should be supporting good , original content ( in this case a video show ) and not trying to tear people down who do. It makes no sense.
Edit: I forgot to flag. Now done.
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@steemitqa, that's the thing. I don't think it's good. Nothing very novel in the vid. Tell me I'm wrong. If so, what is it that you believe is so compelling?
Apparently, there are others that agree with my side. Maybe we're just haters or maybe, just maybe, the content is actually mediocre. At least that video..
As I said to @whatsup, the criticism could prompt him to up his game.
Even if you want to flag me for going against someone in your tribe, I still like your app . 👍
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Thanks for the response back @anthonyadavisii. For me, it's seeing all the different steemians I've only heard about behind a blog , or on discord. Jonny C is taking a deep dive into the the people who make this platform what it is. There are real people behind SteemIt and I appreciate seeing them and hearing them in his format.
I don't think the flag is designed for content you disagree with ? Maybe, reward pool disagreement. He isn't in my "tribe" , it's just common sense not to flag someone for content you don't like, specially content that is original.
I'm taking my flag off because at least you responded and I respect it.
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why the DV @emrebeyler ?
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@whatsup,
You know me. I will. :)
Bottom line. What got me is this dude proved he has some seriously thin skin by downvoting my criticism of him in the initial comment. Not sure if you really paid attention or decided to tune out that part because that's your boy.
I call out many overrated vote buyers and he was the first one to pull the flag to suppress criticism approach on me and I don't take too kindly to that. I don't think it should fly for you either. I didn't flag your comment, now did I? I can take criticism however biting it may be. Honestly, if one can't do that, they are on the wrong platform.
He could have asked me to engage him elsewhere if I was embarrassing him and I likely would have obliged. Maybe he should be focusing on downvoting abuse instead of suppressing criticism. Because he chose the latter, he earned his ridicule in my opinion. Million of ways he could have handled the situation but he decided to be haughty. I don't respond particularly well to the proud.
I didn't flag him either but rather used my words which, if he had a foundation to stand on, perhaps that course would have availed him but he made the choice.
As for your flag, seems kind of cliquish to me but whatever. Think of the silver lining. Maybe now your pal will try harder knowing there likely be more scrutiny and accordingly maybe he will get those YT views. Maybe my harsh critique will serve as a catalyst and maybe he won't even need to be so utterly reliant on paid votes.
Also, maybe he should deploy some capital towards promotion off chain instead of the shit ton of money he's using for on-chain. Just a thought.
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I didn't read all that. I skimmed it. So you made this as a revenge post?
Seriously, he loads up his car and his family, travels, meets with steemians, edits the end results and uses the bots to get visibility. Jeez, what on earth do you people want?
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It's you, who could and should have reached out to me....directly.
Instead you tried to push your agenda in the comments of my post.
So i flagged it and you can believe I would do it again.
I control the comments on my post, weather you like it or not.
Now, as you've already messaged me this morning, you know where to reach me and we can debate this there anytime you wish.
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We can debate this.
I just don't feel the need to do it in my comments section.
The "facts" you state in this post are not completely accurate and I have flagged it for that reason.
See you in Discord.
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Everyone remember to check out the #nobidbot tag, many of us are using it now as our go to trending and new page.
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If there was one person on steemit who goes above and beyond to satisfy the "sacrifice" aspect of posting on steemit, the reward would go to @jonny-clearwater. The guy drives around the country eating the hottest salsas in the world or he drinks a half gallon of poison to promote the conversation about steem. (The alcohol part is stupid)
He should be able to buy a up vote or two if he wants to advertise the show If its wrong to buy votes, then take it up in a discord chat
Not trying to tell you what to do, but why don't you go fight plagiarist, or reward pool rapist instead of making hit-pieces on guys who are actually adding value/comedy to the scene.
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I mean, you do have @jerrybanfield with his 200k subscribers with 400 view videos and recent $2000+ bid.
I guess at the end of the day, money and illusion of following is all that matters for some of these folks.
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The guy used his earned steem, to pay someone to up vote his post. Its a show that takes 2 hours to film, and countless hours of prep. He is traveling across the country interviewing steemians. Its not like he is taking a selfie and buying votes for it. Its all about content. If @anthonyadavisii doesn't like the show, he can just flag it. No need to create an illusion that @jonny-clearwater is trying to rape the reward pool or something. This is a hit-piece on a guy that works hard to bring something original to the platform.
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Actually my votes on his stuff are from me, personally, and are not paid for, just like the flag that I applied to this post.
This post is garbage :-/. He's putting tons of money, time, and effort into making this show and then is promoting it. The guy is traveling the USA and bringing Steem users onto a show. You really think that, that doesn't deserve reward or attention?
He's using the system/platform in a great way, in my opinion. This post reeks of jealousy and just, well, being a dick that's trying to look like some kind of white knight.
You should be embarrassed . . .
side note: Flagged because I do not think that this post deserves the payout it is getting. Also, I do not believe that this user understands how this all works very well, but thinks that they do, yet has taken it upon himself to grandstand as some sort of moral and technical superior authority.
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Upvoted to counter downvote.
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Okay man. I think we got past this already if you'd have read or been around when I was on voice.
Yes, I learned a few things about the effort that Jonny had put forth but believed the last episode was lackluster in spite of it. I was a bit ticked about the suppression of a critical comment but that's fucking old news at this point.
Alot of my VP goes back to the community in the form of flagging real bullshit like this.
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@bdkazi/bitcoin-adoration-professionals-express-why-bitcoin-may-be
That's what I do most the time but I don't have the SP to handle the shit when bots are facilitating it. Was a bit disappointed to see your flag but you had your reasons and even though I talked through this with most everybody else and edited the inaccuracy in my post, you were still hung up. Fine.
You made the choice to flag me but we already squashed this shit a couple nights ago. It's a dead horse and planned on working on a few development tasks and not commenting about something we already discussed on SteemSpeak but here I am.
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@matt-a,
We came to resolution about this on Steemspeak and we decided to work together moving forward. Your downvote is contrary to that accord but you did include your reasoning (disagreement with rewards) so whatever. Still think it is a dick move if you were privy to the whole details of what was going on on the chat. I surmise you were not aware.
I even conceded and editing the post per the discussion then you come here with your flag and comment. I took an action to resolve this per your friends on the chat. We had a nice and civil discussion and @seablue helped me see things in a different way.
Was there a point to me getting on voice and taking my time to hash this out with your friends,@matt-a, or did I just waste my time trying because you just didn't happen to be there at the time?
@jonny-clearwater and I even had a talk and am mighty impressed he used his promotion budget to help a Steemian in need. Thought, we were on the right track.
Going to ignore that.
And that. You apparently are on a different sheet of music than your colleagues.
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I don't think that it was a dick move. I feel as though my move was appropriate. I flagged a mean-spirited, poorly thought out, unmerited attacking post. That's it.
I'm glad that you two found some common ground, but the fact still remains that this post happened and it is still in its 7 day window rewards amount discovery balancing act, which I chose to play a part of. I hope that you maintain the approach that you seem to have recently adopted, it seems good.
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I feel way less guilty about the collective $10 I've spent in the last 2 months. I say again - there should be a cap for bid bot votes. I think it should be a reverse graduating scale that factors in the number followers and the accounts reputation.
I feel I like need to ask - please don't flag me - I'm on the side of honesty/ transparency. I'm not scolding the guy - just trying to further the discussion.
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Just can't bring myself to use the damn bots on account of my disagreeing with it on principle. Guess that'll be the hill I die on and my account fade into relative obscurity.
I have a couple alterative prospective platforms that may be more receptive to my ethos but would prefer salvaging the shipwreck that is Steem. I hope curation makes a comeback in a real serious sorta way!
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I hear you completely - my only reason for using them is that I spend a shit load of time on some of this stuff and i want to get something out of it ( if I could get better organic votes that would be cool and I'd never touch a bot again) 300 + followers and almost no interaction other than a select group.
That can get discouraging really quick. It sucks because not only do I spend a decent amount of time on stuff I'm crazy active - 2 months - nearly 1000 posts / comments.
If you look at my second last post ( which I did use bots on) I'm trying to start an initiative called #curatequality - a community that supports it's self organically. Not to be confused with a vote ring - the goal is to support quality content and encourage people to go the extra step. I'd love for someone like you to get involved.
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Hit me up on Discord. If you create good shit, I'll give you my meager upvote. Enough of us come together, maybe we can create real communities.
Maybe create projects that add value but explicitly exclude the blatantly excessive vote buyers. We need to promote the change we would like to see. We may not be able to achieve utopia on the blockchain but we certainly can get closer to it than this!
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He is his own group of groupies how cool😎😎
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I'm not a groupie. I like the show and I like the content. We need more original content on SteemIt.
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I didn’t mention anything about you being a groupie. Try again. Have a great day.
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Ok, he is his own groupie which still is stupid lol
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Yep it kind of is isn’t it. Btw you still got it wrong but that’s fine. I get your point.
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Lol, not really. Bots are paid for that isn't a groupie. But, thanks for recognizing the point.
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Just like buying seats to your own concert
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Buying tickets for your family members...
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Beep!Beep! @shadow3scalpel & listkeeper @chairborne have your six new veterans, retirees and military members on STEEM. We’ll be patrolling by to upvote your posts (because you are on the list) and we'll answer any questions you leave us. Comment by @shadowspub. This is a opt-in bot.
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Seems like a person with nothing to hide would be comfortable with open discussion.
Publicly announcing reform should encourage genuine fandom.
I appreciate the hard work and objectivity this author strives for. This author is one of the great examples for our community. This author has encouraged me to also be a better example for this community. Such as life, it’s what you do when no one is looking. (Not just a passage from a book, it’s logical.) Shit trickles down, up, left, right, in, and out.
Obviously, It would really suck to suddenly lose all those rewards. (Assumeing there is a profitable return.) I genuinely hope a community serving compromise can be found.
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They could decline rewards.
Trending would get cheaper for everybody.
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how they did it?
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