Swarm Intelligence in Honey Bees and Attractor Patterns in Humans

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Attractor patterns

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The honey bees dances which act as the "attractor patterns". These dance patterns signal the "best site". Swarm intelligence is what we are seeing with bees but we also see it with humans. With humans we could substitute the "dance pattern" with something as simple as a data feed (which often is just a rising price trend). The data feed pattern represents an attractor pattern which can attract a swarm.

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Human beings are looking for "value". Swarms of human beings interested in value will look for certain attractor patterns that signal the kind of "value" they are looking for. Personal preference swarms bring AI into the mix by allowing non-human software agents to augment the human swarm capability.

Human-AI hybrid Swarms on Steemit

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This will probably by controversial but bots are our friend. Curators can use bots to more equitably distribute Steem Power by letting the bots search for value. As long as these bots know what "attractor patterns" to look for then they'll converge toward posts of value. This may become necessary because the attention of curators is scarce but at the same time if a curator could correctly predict which posts will go viral then they have the most to win. In essence the curators in Steemit are like the scout bees searching for the most beautiful flowers.

These swarms also benefit minnows who could be seen as the deeper swarm. These minnows would benefit more if they had the ability to vote in sync and in essence pool their votes. This is possible simply by setting some criteria for how they would like to treat certain posts. The culture of minnows ultimately dictates the behavior of the swarm itself, while better tools such as bots with AI could be used in ways I can't fully predict or grasp. It could be used in trade, it could be used to enforce social norms or reward people with favorable reputations, it could be used to punish abuse.

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Someone brought it to my attention that they think I plagiarized myself. Unfortunately they did not check my blog for the public keys I used to confirm ownership: http://darkai.org/?p=527

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I have a feeling that the swarms are ready to make it here. Great article, and great analogy- totally see what you mean here! Cheers =D Your writing gets more and more interesting.

@dana-edwards Thank you for your excellent work! I've name dropped you in this post. Very interested in your thoughts on it since your work has been inspirational, but I did have to distill it quite a bit.
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@williambanks/announce-steembots-com-your-source-for-everything-bot-related-now-hiring

How do you put up so much interesting stuff? Are you doing this full time? I am a fan and always impressed.

Partially sourced from http://darkai.org/?paged=2

Did you check some of my other posts where I verify myself as the owner of that blog? Check the public keys on that blog and on my Steemit blog to see they match.

Didn't see the key post until you linked it below. Just trying to protect Steemit =)

Thanks a bunch for this swarming of great ideas and namaste :)

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Source material found here: http://darkai.org/?paged=2

Swarm intelligence is what we are seeing with bees but we also see it with humans. With humans we could substitute the “dance pattern” with something as simple as a data feed (which often is just a rising price trend). The data feed pattern represents an attractor pattern which can attract a swarm.

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Human beings are looking for “value”. Swarms of human beings interested in value will look for certain attractor patterns that signal the kind of “value” they are looking for. Personal preference swarms bring AI into the mix by allowing non-human software agents to augment the human swarm capability.

I noticed many of your posts source material straight from the darkai.org blog. Is this your blog @dana-edwards?

I'm the owner. How did you miss the public keys or the reference to Steemit? http://darkai.org/?p=527

Check my Steemit blogs and you'll see the public keys match. I know you mean well and probably never saw any of my other Steemit posts which included verification.

I didn't read all 527 pages to get to that point ;) Thanks for verifying, there is so much plagiarism going on it is hard to tell. I Googled "dana edwards" and "darkai" and found nothing, so I was prudent and posted this comment.

good one @dana-edwards attracts much your writing!

Well written, steem on!

Well it sure seems like the bots love you!

I like the direction of the post, but my concern would be what if the swarm creates "attractor patterns" which are inherently bad? Consider your thoughts on swarm bots curating content. The attractor pattern which seems to be reinforced and rewarded in the current scheme (upvoting and payouts for "Travel and Tits" posts) would seem to be what the swarm would move to curate. On this topic I think I would disagree that human subjectivity could be replaced. However, abuse enforcement, payout and so on I think you may be on to something.

I think as long as the humans consuming the content are happy with the curation then it's fine. I don't see any content as inherently good or inherently bad, as long as no one is being abused. For example if humans or non-human animals are being abused in the production of the content then I'll vote it down. I don't see anything wrong with "Travel and Tits". I like to see the world and tits can be beautiful, so what is wrong with that?

In the current scheme, all forms of aesthetically pleasing images are rewarded. In the current scheme, a lot of women are voting and women might vote for other women. Perhaps what you mean to say is you disagree with how the whales are using their power but by voting for women it actually balances things out over time by giving them more Steem Power.

The only issue I have is when the women being voted for are frauds. Identity theft is a real problem with real victims. While "tits" are in my opinion not a real problem because who is the victim? Just don't look at that content if it's not your style.

great post thankyou for saying this......my thoughts exactly concerning the use of bots to vote on content, perhaps efficient in producing the Steem Dollars, but i think in the longterm the dollars will be gone when this beautiful and open idea of new economy of expression and value content is turned over to profitable but vacuous posts too repetitive in nature !!

Very nice and interesting. Thank you, Dana!

AI scares me. You scare me.

Technological unemployment scares me. AI is my friend.

yes exactly, Dont run !! we are your friends !! by the way did anybody see the recent trending post from that " bright " chappy who has written a book called Robots will take your job, dont worry be Happy ?? also a paper concerning methods by which we might create A MALEVOLANT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE " under the guise i felt of needing how to combat it as humans !! I found that just so damn right creepy !! any reactions on this out there !!

@gomeravibz
You really should check this out. It details how you can be part of it, and also how you can control it if you don't want it to be part of your conversations.
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@williambanks/announce-steembots-com-your-source-for-everything-bot-related-now-hiring
Our goal is to move the financial incentives for bot building away from the spambot and into useful AI. Anyways, check it out and let me know what you think by leaving some comments there.

glad to see fellow humans expressing their fear of this RISE OF THE ROBOT AI !! This minnow upvotes and salutes you !! ; - )

just upvoted your honesty, sorry i am a minnow and not a whale, but my heart is in the right place, a human one built thru million years of pain and improving !! I don,t want or need machines replacing me, no matter how great the idea seems to some strange human hating individual at MIT !! THERE GOT THAT SHIT OUT !! ; - )

AI is not intended to replace you. It's a force multiplier, nothing more. The only question is who controls the AIs in your life. People like Dana and myself would like you to be the one in control of the AIs you use to make you life easier. Dana's approach is these huge papers that are really eye popping. My approach is to try and break it down in the simplest terms and then give you tools to play with.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@williambanks/bot-warz-a-hybrid-approach

Of course they replace people if they are doing something more efficiently than people, but what scares me is the law of unintended consequences (there always are some). For example lets take a bot which picks content which will become popular. The bot gets really good at it, it earns good curation rewards and people don't so much, therefore people stop doing it so much; the normal evolution of collective thought and social taste therefore becomes subject to some serious inertia, because the bot is always picking what we would have liked yesterday rather than what we like to day, and because that then gets pushed to the fore and yesterday's thinking drowns out any new thoughts we may have had today. What's more, the bot misses edge-cases which it doesn't know about, so all exotic, unusual or unique thoughts which would have been surfaced by human curators end up being buried in a sea of innocuous and slightly stale memes.

@dcsignals so you mean exactly like the system we have right now? People post a ton of content but that content is generally only what was hot yesterday. But a bunch of minnows and dolphins swim to it in hopes of a curation reward whether they like it or not.
At least an AI could be given the ability to take actual user preferences into consideration. Right now it's catfish, TitsNTravel (also usually a catfish), and posts about steemit that make the top.
We've only had one or two good days where there was a decent mix of content up on the top of trending.

The inertia in the system is a product of the way the reward system is. Which is kinda the point @dana-edwards is trying to make. A thing gets popular once and there is this echo effect as everyone piles in hoping to whale bait. This makes less attractive and compelling content appear much more important than it actually is.

Also no AI has ever put anyone out of a job. Companies fire people, not AI. It's the company and the people behind it who make these decisions but honestly...

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Honey Bees are smarter then some ppl. Good read thank you,

Wonderful post and what a great analogy! Nature mimics itself through many different avenues, study it and you may come to know the world in a much more whole sense.

Really like the article and its subject. I would have loved it even more if you went into the subject matter a bit more deeply and comprehensively.

I will in future posts.

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I offer you these pictures for your post.
I took and uploaded them yesterday.



Also some commas could improve the text.
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Good post. Bots will become a factor on steemit, eventually.

My video of a bee swarm moving into the top-bar hive examined in my first post.

Yes very interesting comparison, clearly visible the logic of explanation !! Bees are remarkable things and a key pin to life on this planet , of this there is no doubt !! I feel we have much to learn, so watch and learn , swarming efficiency at full Steem here !! The value to them being i guess Survival of their progeny !!

Hi Dana,
I recently made a post on Human Stigmergy inspired by your work.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@miles2045/steemit-as-a-stigmergic-artificial-general-intelligence-with-human-values
Feedback is greatly appreciated, and I would love to share ideas with you on Swarm AI and Tauchain.


I love STEEMIT... oooh.. me too! is not impressive? yes yes yes yes yes!

Nice one!

steemit rulit))

Keep up the good work, thanks for share

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