Props to @mindhunter for learning how the system works and developing a system to profit from it. Now we as users need to come together and see if this exploitation of the system should be allowed or not, and if not figure out how to stop it.
Thank you @jerrybanfield for investigating and writing up such a detailed post.
People that exploit a system are the ones that make it stronger in the future by exposing vulnerabilities. This has been going on for a very long time and needs to be dealt with using updates in the code.
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I agree. Although calling everyone nazis and fascists comes in at a close second.
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Nazis are always the go-to for reductio ad absurdum, but don't take all analogies too seriously. I think anarchy is just making a point.
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hahaha
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props to @hitler for being smart enough to learn how the system works and developing a dictatorship to profit from it. Now we as humans need to come together and see if this exploitation of the system should be allowed or not, and if not figure out how to stop it.
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I get your analogy... but it's not the same thing. I've seen some of @mindhunters's videos and it seems that he was an early adopter of Steemit. He may be gaming the system, but it's different than causing people serious physical harm.
As more authors like @jerrybanfield come on to Steemit, the potential profits of someone doing what @mindhunter is doing will diminish.
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You are correct that simply draining the rewards pool and decreasing the payouts all the rest of us can receive is different than, say kneecapping us.
It's not different in principle, however.
How does a productive author that produces valuable content change the ability of scams to be profitable? @jerrybanfield is a valuable content producer, of that there is no doubt. At best his own rewards drain the pool from which scammers also rely. Given the relative level of work involved, I am highly doubtful such is an credible impediment to scammers.
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Many (probably nearly everyone) comes to steemit as a way to make money from blogging and engaging in social media. @mindhunter has currently found a way to do that better than anyone else currently on this platform. If the way he does this is not acceptable to the community then we should come together and figure out how to fix the problem... much like your analogy, but without the violence. Just like the Steemit platform was created to function.
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Many (probably nearly everyone) comes to fascism as a way to make money from controlling the population. @hitler has currently found a way to do that better than anyone else currently in this country.
also it is actually with violence. Making a profit without work means others must get what they produced taken away. That is done through wage labor, which is only kept in existence through violence.
this book explains it well
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/
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On Steemit it isn't done with wage labor, so your point about violence isn't valid in this case.
Since Steemit is entirely voluntary, no potential violence exists. However, there is an indirect promotion of violence, as I do make money from labor, and so by decreasing the rewards I am able to generate on a platform where I can do so without being subject to the violence of the state, then I am prompted to rely more on my wage labor subject to that violence.
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Starve or work for the ruling class. It doesn't matter if you choose where you work it's not voluntary by definition.
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I am no good at either, having tried both.
I like to fix stuff for the people I work for, so I do the work. I like to leave behind a trailer, for example, that was uninhabitable when I got there, and now the landlady of the trailer park is jelly of how nice it is.
I leave a legacy of improvements that benefit those I get to serve. I don't do work for 'the man' although I have personally been literally worked as a slave, for more than three years. Forced labor without pay, under pain of death - actual slavery.
I lived through not because I am particularly fond of myself, but because my kids are fond of me, and would have been devastated by my loss. It was a lot of trouble to endure for them, but they are worth it to me.
The crackers in the trailer park are about as far from the ruling class as I can get, so that's why I work to improve their lot.
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Paging @commentwealth...come in @commentwealth, do you read? Over.
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what is commentwealth
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It's a new account that tries to upvote quality comments that will probably be lost otherwise (several layers deep, etc.)
Steemit's reward pool is, indeed, a zero-sum game. For every over-rewarded whale, there are 1000 minnows who quit and do not buy Steem. That's why I liked your comment.
Making people work more for another to earn unjust reward is several layers removed from direct violence, but it's still basically an extrapolated form of slavery.
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Well said. This discussion is fun to read =)
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"Making people work more for another to earn unjust reward is several layers removed from direct violence, but it's still basically an extrapolated form of slavery."
forcing somebody to do something at gun point is a layer or two away from violence.
"Steemit's reward pool is, indeed, a zero-sum game."
Payment for labor itself is a zero-sum game. That makes everything that comes out of capitalism one.
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It seems like you think I'm arguing with you; I wasn't. I don't get your first point.
Payment for labor is not zero sum, that's silly. If I pay you $10 to produce a widget and I sell that widget for $20, we both gained, as did whichever market participant wanted the widget enough to pay for it.
If all human labor were a zero sum game, we'd still be living in grass huts...or caves.
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