Steem and Steemit Inc is at a critical junction, I am getting increasingly nauseated with the trend I see gaining traction and I believe its time we arrest the situation of "voting Bots".
First of all, I am not against voting Bots but I am worried that quality of post is compromised when your ability to pay a bot determines the likelihood of your post gaining any traction. The voting Bot started off on a fix rate system where you pay X amount and your post receives a random percentage upvote, now the system has adapted and much more players are involved. Some of the Bot system operates by rewarding those who bid the most and some observers has recognize how lucrative this model is and has since launch their own Bot base system. An while this benefits a few I believe its has reach a point where some form of leadership/ regulation is needed. The main reason why I say this stems primarily from the fact that Delegating Steem Power has taken off and now these players who run those Bots system can now tap into this readily available system. It ins't naive to say that humans would act in their best interest and not necessarily the interest of the community. It is my belief that if this system and trend continues, Steem can quickly find itself being labeled unwanted names where for examples "users pay for upvotes from large stakeholders that isn't reflected of quality" or "Its a system that enables the rich to get richer".
This post is by no means attacking "voting Bots", I am just a concern Steemian who sees the potential problems if this system is allowed to operate. I believe that the bidding process should be eliminated or those who operate it are mindful of the potential abuse. We have an excellent platform, one of the best blockchain around and the potential that it possess is still untapped. Lets go back to rewarding content creators and not develop a system where you first must pay. Let Steem reflect the theme below, the we all sign up for
Steem has tremendous potential, if we focus on making this platform a better place and respect each others views and opinion I believe we can easily achieve success together. I know economics matters and everyone would not operate in a system where their personal interest isn't eroded but compromise is needed if we are to move forward. It is my firm belief that the concept sell itself but we must promote a platform that is tolerant and isn't game easily and thus its time we have some reflection on the present system. We can easily see monopoly being created if this present situation continues and content creators now find themselves being "B.tch of these Pimps".
Thus I recommend Delegated Steem Power should be community focus and content driven. Community focus where that Delegated Stake revolves between community members. That Delegated Stake would revolve among members who upvotes content that is beneficial to the community and platform. This I believe would generate much more traction and content creators within those communities would be more willing to participate and encourage behavior that is beneficial to the platform. We still have people on the platform who are self-less, who actually take the time out to read content and reward the creators. The steemians who leave thoughtful comments, why not develop a system where those who leave thoughtful comments can be eligible to receive 100SP Delegation for 1 week. This would operate base on points they would receive from those who upvote their contribution to their post.
I believe once we have enough traction, this would cause significant buying pressure on Steem and help reverse bear trend it currently find itself in. These are just some of my thoughts, there is more, this platform should definitely be within the TOP10 and its really up to us as Steemians to make it happen.
@daudimitch posting interesting
I 100% agree what you say in this post.
my mind, the same as what I think.
I see in the last few months, many steemians have a big effect on upvote from bots, they even make bot postings, even if they pay with the amount of sbd they have.
I think, that's a big disadvantage for steemians users. they are glad of their confidence in posting. finally being placed in post unfeasible steemit or post-asalan.
thank you for sharing information
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Its never a good sign when you use the earnings from one post to upvote the next post...i am by no means against Bots, they carry out alot of important function but the bidding situation has gotten out of control and I believe something needs to be done, quite a few of these minnow support groups are just draining the minnows of the SBD they earn and these minnows think they are making progress with that level nonsense
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I think the whales who want to see their capital value increase should be using steemreports to check how people vote, and delegating steem power to people they believe will use their VOTE to bring value to the platform.
And they should periodically check or change those delegations.
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Good recommendation, I wonder if they would consider it?
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Daudi, this is an excellent proposal!
The only part i dont like is the cool off period for delegations.
But i can make a voter script that follows the vote of such selected persons.
Do you think it might have the same positive impact?
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I think its what needed to encourage more human interaction.... programming is not one of my strengths but I believe the code could like
as a side tipping people with good responses receive a tip from the writer of the post who values their comment, after that person would have accumulated enough tips, they can then exchange it for the Delegated Steem Power...you understand what I mean, probably I can do a post an explain the concept better
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Like using another token... that once you have enough you change for SP.
That is a bit more difficult to program and it mirrors a little @whaleshares where you send them with a memo of your post and get an upvote.
Without the hazzle of using another exchange...
But i get your point... Let me think about it... for the time being i am finishing the summoning bot not sure if i would implement a required minimal comment length or not...
This one is different it allows anyone to call the bot who will then vote and leave a comment and about 8k SP will vote behind.
This one is different it allows anyone to call the bot who will then vote and leave a comment and about 8k SP will vote behind.
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It would be merit base, the author or readers would tip base on what they see as valuable...I want it to be human oriented or else it can be easily game
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need to figure a way to catch actions and increase or decrease merit score To a base of users.
Set the rules, and a trigger...
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I just imagined a way to help with the project sustainability and growth The authors should upvote the comment of the summoner, once a summoner accumulates 1000 vote weight (or 10 times 100% acceptance by the upvotes)
Anyone can use it but will vote at 10% strength, those which receive the 1000 merit acceptance for every summon they use 50 merit points (1 vote at 20%) or mention the points in 50 increments for additional 20%.
Self summons use 300 merit points
The merit points should remain above 500, to recharge it once reached the 1000 each upvote of the comment by the bot will add 50 merit points to whoever summoned it....
Or something like that.
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this is some good insight as I am new and still just beginning to test out the voting bots and play around with how they work I never really thought about it in this way that the whales could be miss using the bot to overbid users who have low wallets and in return make even more income on there already high paying posts pushing us little guys further down the list. So in reality its starting to be like the real world where the rich get richer off the expense of the poor
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Its one of my observation, few people understand the economics behind these bidding bots, the Bot shares the largest piece of the pie to the highest bid...You cannot compete if you are making 1 a post and still pumping your earnings into your next vote, realistically you stand no chance, you may survive for some time but ultimately this never benefits the content creators...what make this dangerous, now that we have Delegated Steem Power on sale, the people running these Bots can easily buy up any available stake further monopolizing an already deteriorating situation...
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Some good ideas there, @daudimitch. Like you I've been picking up on the voting bot trend (and the increasing number of posts lamenting vote/bot farms). I've decided to declare WAR ON VOTE FARMS!.. I've just decided this in the last 12 hours, so I'm probably going to get eaten alive. But you might be interested in adding some ideas to a post I made calling for ideas on how best to combat this. I won't spam you with links, but you can find the post on my blog wall if you are interested.
I've also just decided today (it's been a bit of a mad day; feel like I've been on speed all day) to create a new minnow support initiative. You can find that link on my wall in amongst the other 300 things I've smashed out today on steem(it). ;)
In any case, I thought it fairly serendipitious that I came across your post that talks about the two major things I've taken on today (and going forward). It seems there's a lot a discussion going on around these two things in the last few days.
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Pm a message on discord with the post and you may have to rethink your approach, you need significant steem power to take on the level of work you are about to undertake
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Yeah, it's not using my SP. It will rely on delegation.
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Nice post
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I agree!! Right on the target. Dead on the spot. @daudimitch
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