Question About Plagiarism, References and What is Acceptable or Not

in steemit •  9 years ago  (edited)

How Much Can You Quote / Share Before it is Too Much?

This is a question for the people who know, because I haven't found a clear explaination of this on any Steemit post yet. They are all somewhat vague as to what is or is not acceptable.

I know that I can use my own images and stock photos that I have purchased online, but what about images from articles that I am referencing?

So in a recent post of mine, I used a Steemit image, a Problogger image and an image from LifeHacker.

  • Steemit image: I assumed this was ok, because it was promoting the platform.
  • Problogger image: It had the logo clearly on it, so I think that is fine - isn't it?
  • LifeHacker image: I referenced the article in the text, so I think its ok to use the image right?

Also, how much of text are we allowed to use in quotations? I think I remember from school it was like up to a paragraph or something, does anyone know?

Also what about sharing videos?

My thought process about it is that we are providing free (to them) advertising for their content which drives more viewers and subscribers to their channels (which pay aka YouTube). So is this acceptable?

If I missed a post which accurately describes this, please send me the link or share it here because I am sure many people, including myself, will find it useful.

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  ·  9 years ago (edited)

I'll share my thoughts on fair use on Steemit

Articles

I haven't linked to other stuff in a few weeks. But my own personal method of linking articles is to:

  • use an image to illustrate the thing being linked to, sometimes taken from that article and sometimes not
  • quote a paragraph or two using > quote markdown, generally the opening paragraphs of an article, and sometimes a specific quote if I found it really interesting. Three paragraphs can be pushing it, it can depend on their length and density of content though
  • link to the article of course, and hopefully from the original source
  • sometimes add my own commentary below all this

It really comes down to a fuzzy but reasonable/common sense amount of quotation and attribution.

Photos and images

Images and photographs obviously it's hard to take a selection of, and I admit I use some images, often edited, without express permission for the purpose of illustrating posts. This is a fuzzy area for me, but I am not getting rewarded for posting those images, I am getting rewarded for the whole post I made. It's new territory because if I was making these posts on reddit or a forum, nobody would care if I borrowed an image and edited it for illustration. In one case, I found the perfect image for a post to use as a thumbnail picture and fun illustration, but it wasn't mine. However, the image was taken to advertise their custom made products, so I attributed the image to where I found it and also linked to their store where one could buy the things in the picture, in this case some Zelda boss keys: https://steemit.com/steemit-guides/@pfunk/your-steem-account-is-worth-money-how-to-secure-it-with-a-new-owner-key-to-keep-it-yours-forever

Videos

YouTube videos are kind of their own thing, as YT has always allowed embedding videos. A YouTube video always links back to the site where you can watch it, and of course makes it clear which account posted it there. I personally posted a couple of the new Radiohead videos from YouTube in the early days of Steemit and got rewarded for it. As long as you don't embed a YouTube and say "I made this" when you really didn't, I don't see an issue with it.

Great reply! Thanks for taking the time to write this out. I was thinking along the same lines, but this is such a grey area, I wasn't sure.

Nedroid Comics - Anthony Clark

I concur with everything above.

i want to know what are the rules of posting here to, thanks

Good question. I haven't seen how they police this except perhaps with the Witnesses....

So far there is this:
grittenald's post on citing sources
recursive's post on abuse reporting

But both of these leave many details out. What about the pictures the articles use? If we cite them, can we use them?

But both of these leave many details out. What about the pictures the articles use? If we cite them, can we use them?

Personally I have no issue with someone using my images with their articles, if they at the least give me a nod. I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling when someone simply post my image alone in an attempt to profit for themselves. I'm probably not alone.

Great question and pfunk has great insight as usual, love your stuff. Steemit is capable of handling it. I shared my thoughts about it too you can check it out. Not trying to sell myself but repeating everything is a bit tedious sorry https://steemit.com/steemit/@bjones/steem-police-serving-and-protecting-since-7-4-16
And here is how Steemit handles it which I touch on too https://steemit.com/tos.html