Interesting chain of Emails Regarding the Hollow Earth theory

From: Dean D
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Dennis Crenshaw Interview with Hank Krastman

List members,

This was an interview by Dennis Crenshaw with Dr. Hank Krastman, done way back in 1994.

Dean

JOURNEY TO PALATKWAPI

From: THE HOLLOW EARTH INSIDER, Vol. 2, No. 5: [Exclusive Interview with Dr. Hank Krastman Ph.D]

Dr. Hank Krastman has spent the last 23 years researching and reporting on the Earth's Ley Lines, Vortexes, Men in Black, Crystals and Crystal Skulls and Hopi entrances to the Inner Earth. He has written and published many books and videos on these and other subjects, and until recently published UNEXPLAINED magazine. His continuing work will soon be found in INTERNATIONAL UFO LIBRARY magazine.

Dennis: Dr. Krastman, how did you become involved in your research, particularly in your study of the Hopi Indians and the Inner Earth?

Hank: Please call me Hank. In 1961, while attending classes at the University of Northern Arizona I met a young, blue eyes, blond headed fellow student named Karl Kopavi Waltz [of the Waltz clan of the Hopi nation]. Through conversation I learned that he was a Hopi Indian with a Dutch ancestor and was planning on becoming a teacher.

The name "Karl Waltz" came from his Great Great Grandfather "Jacob Waltz" who, was from Holland. As I was also from Holland this became our bond. I learned that Jacob Waltz was well known to western history buffs as the "lost Dutchman," holder of the secret of The Lost Dutchman Mine in Arizona's Superstition Mountains. I will go into this in detail in my upcoming book "Kopavi," but in 1875 at the age of 65, Jacob married a 16 year old Hopi girl who was named -- because of her light complexion and blue eyes -- MUHA, the "Fire One."

Kopavi and I became close friends and as time went on he told me many things that made such good sense that I wanted to know more. One of the most fascinating things he told me was the real secret of "The Lost Dutchman Mine."

Kopavi told me that his grandmother had told him that his Great Great Grandfather, Jacob Waltz had lived with the Pima Indians at the Superstition Mountains. The Indians grew to trust the 64 year old Dutchman and since the Pima's were not allowed to enter the sacred entrances to the underground, they asked him to take sacks of salt to the underground people. Salt is scarce in the inner world and gold is not. Jacob in turn would receive sacks of gold as his reward.

Dennis: So the "Lost Dutchman Mine" never existed?

Hank: That's right. It's actually an entrance to the inner lands and, as I learned later, just one of many entrances found around the world. I also was amazed to learn that Kopavi was actually from the underground city of PALATKWAPI.

One day Kopavi asked if I'd like to actually see an entrance to the
underground... I was thrilled.

[Note: the Hopis, and Cherokee believe that the Pueblo Indians had in the most ancient times taken up residence within an underground 'cavern' world and after a long period of time emerged once again onto the surface. Some say that reptilian humanoids drove them to the surface, other versions state that some of the underground Hopi turned to practicing sorcery and made things bad for the rest, while other versions state that an underground 'flood' forced them to seek refuge topside. Some versions say that they emerged through a cavern, other through a mound, and still other versions state that the portal of emergence, the sipapu or sipapuni, lies hidden under a pool of yellowish water. Most of the Hopi versions however agree with the LOCATION of the sipapu... somewhere along the Little Colorado River, a 'short' ways upstream from its confluence with the Colorado River. The sipapu is considered one of the most sacred sites of the Hopi people. - Branton]

First we went to the Grand Canyon where we hired two donkeys. Karl assured me [that] the donkeys were sure-footed, but I wasn't so sure once we started to climb, the trail became small and full of rocks and from time to time I could feel the donkeys hind legs slip on the smooth, loose slate. All I could do was hold on and try to shut out the sound of loosened rock as it clattered down the cliff side to the ground below. Finally we came to a wide spot on the trail and I was able to breath again. We took our breather on a small plateau from which the panoramic view of the Grand Canyon spread out below displaying the rich earth colors found only in the American southwest. Karl brought out a blindfold and explained that, while he had secured permission from the Council of Nine for me to enter these sacred grounds, he had been requested to cover my eyes from here on out. The rest of the ride into the Canyon was terrifying to say the least. How much time had passed I did not know, I was too busy hanging on to the saddle of the small brave beast.

After what seemed to be an eternity, we came to a stop and Karl removed my blindfold. As my eyes adjusted to the bright sunlight again, I looked around me. We were in a large clearing flush against the canyon wall. Karl motioned for me to climb down from my now, uncomfortable perch, as he did the same. After stretching my tensed up body I turned to Karl who was standing next to the sheet cliff wall. "Put your hand against the wall right here," he said pointing to the solid rock face. I did as he asked, and my hand didn't stop. It continued right through the wall. It seemed that the cliff wall was only a created illusion to keep unwanted people away. Actually it was the entrance to a large secret cave called "PUPOVI." As we walked inside I was amazed to find the cave was brightly lit. Before us was a sort of escalator type device which you lay down on. There was some sort of transparent bubble which covered you called a HAWIOVI. My heart was beating fast, so I stood looking at this strange sight as I caught my breath.

Now I have a confession to make. For years I have been telling people that this is as far as I went. I lied. I was told not to reveal anymore than this. However, I have now been given permission to tell the rest of the story. Actually, I did proceed from this point all the way into the underground Hopi city of PALATKWAPI. I am putting the whole story in a book to be entitled "KOPAVI," which I am currently working on.

Dennis: Wow! This is quite a revelation. So you took this Hawiovi to Palatkwapi?

Hank: Only part of the way. At the bottom of the escalator, which travels at the speed of light, we boarded a PATUWVOTA or flying machine which moved through subterranean tunnels on energy fields. I will go into detail about all of this in my book.

Dennis: Yes, I realize that your time is almost up and you have another engagement. But, can you answer a few more questions?

Hank: I do have to go... but yes I'll answer a few.

Dennis: Upon exiting the PATUWVOTA what did you see?

Hank: We first went into a large cave room called the PUSIVI and my friend and guide said, "Welcome to TUWANASAVI, the center of the world." The large room had many doors all around with strange markings on them. Karl explained that the doors were an added precaution, in case an unauthorized person penetrated the area they wouldn't know which door leads to the city. I understood without him saying anything that you didn't want to open the wrong door [could be this, or could be that this was an underground 'intersection' to different realms. IF however one happened to make it that far, I would suggest nonetheless that extreme caution would be advised - Branton]. Karl walked up to one of the doors, placed his hand over a symbol in the center and we entered a clean white room with a light purple glow called the POWAMU WUWUCHPI or purification room where all the negativities and bacteria were removed from our bodies, both outside and inside. Only then could we enter the city of Palatkwapi.

Dennis: There is so much I want to ask. I don't know where to start. Is Palatkwapi located inside the subterranean world of tunnels or is it located on the underside of the mantle, or the inner-world?

Hank: It is located on the surface of the inner-world.

Dennis: What color was the sky? Was it red?

Hank: No. The sky is a beautiful blue, no clouds and the sun was stationary in the sky. The air was the freshest I'd breathed.

Dennis: Can you describe what the city looks like?

Hank: Sure. The houses were all built in the Greek style with columns and red tile roofs. The rooms are all open and airy with no glass in the open windows. There are gardens with bright blooming flowers and plants everywhere. It is very quiet, other than the soft rush of wind which was constant. I learned this wind is called APONIVI and is pulled in from the North and South polar openings by machines which are powered by the inner sun, then blown back through tunnels to the surface of the earth in hundreds of places. This system was designed to compensate for the gravitational pull and centrifugal force of the earth and the heat of the sun in order to maintain the gravity and a constant temperature of 76 degrees.

-- end of email --

Comments by Rodney M. Cluff:

We have since learned that Hank, while in our hollow earth fell in love with a hollow earth girl, whom he said was a very beautiful woman. In fact, Hank said that the women of the hollow earth are so beautiful that any single man could not help but fall in love with them. He wanted to marry her, but decided he wanted to go back to the surface world to get some personal belongings. So his Hopi friend took him back to the surface and told him that when he returned to the Grand Canyon, to just yell out his name and he would come get him. But when Hank returned with his belongings to the Grand Canyon and yelled out his friend's name, his friend never came. Hank was so disappointed that he didn't marry until his 70's. He retired, moved to the Philippines and passed away in March 2010.

Another interesting side-line on this story, is from Billie Woodard. Before I learned of this story of Hank Krastman, Billie told me that one time that he had gone back to visit his step-parent's home in Apache Junction, that he was visiting with one of the Indian Elders when the Elder invited him to go for a walk up on the Superstition Mountains. After walking clear into the evening and even after sun-down, Billie was so tired he was ready to drop, when the Indian Elder said, "Wait here." The Elder then went on ahead and soon came back and said, "Let's go." They then walked a short distance up this canyon and came up to the canyon wall, and just walked right into the canyon wall. A holographic image of the canyon wall was hiding the cavern entrance.

It was the Lost Dutchman cavern where many years ago the Lost Dutchman would enter with his donkeys loaded with salt to take to a cavern city of people living within the shell of the earth, which they paid for with gold. Billie followed the Indian Elder further into the cavern and came to a cavern room filled with cubes of gold, each about 4"x4"x4" in size. After examining the gold, they returned to Apache Junction.

When I told Billie about Hank's story, Billie said he had never heard it before, and wanted to speak with Hank. So I put them in contact with each other. Billie later told me that he gave Hank a tip for locating one of these camouflaged entrances: To take a compass and if you manage to get in the proximity of the entrance, the compass needle will start to spin. Hank thanked Billie for the tip.

Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted
on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 07:07:25

HollowEarthNewsletter_Name: Patrick

comments: Hello Friend of the Truth!

I read your site and its very nice and informative, most of the stuff i already known.

I looked for more infos about the shown "german letter of u 209" and i found some infos in an german submarine archive :

http://www.u-boote-online.de/dieboote/u0209.html

The u 209 sub is missed since 07.05.1943:

Aus unbekannter Ursache verlorengegangen
"missed in unknown reasons"

the last operation-area was

"Operationsgebiet: Nordatlantik südlich von Island und südöstlich von Grönland

07.05.1943 Verlust des Bootes"

north-atlantic, south of iceland and south-east of greenland

Position:(52°00'N-38°00'W)

the commander was Mr. Heinrich Brodda, like you said too.

There are 4 years between last contact and the letter from mexico.

the letter is dated on 20.04 - the birthday of hitler. Its courios and i think its real. Like the radio-call which was received by british army "our submarines found an paradise"

I know that the earth is hollow, i said i KNOW, not i believe.

My Grandfather war in german marine too, he is missed too, no one knows for what reason, like other dozens of german subs.

I'm 36, i never met him. But i dream very often of him, my whole life. He grows older in any dream i have, slowly but older.

He talk to me in my dreams since i was an little boy, he told me that he isn't dead, he told me that he lives inside the earth.

Believe it, or not. its real, i'm not joking or i ain't a gracy idiot.

My live i'm searching for the truth about it, i was in india an talked to an guru bevore dome years, he showed me the entry to hollow earth and he told me that there is an labyrinth in this cave, wich isn't easy to get. He told me that there are barries inside, magical barries, wich cant "get troght" by anyone, only the ones which true heart can get inside.

He said there was an guru that lived in the 1930, and at the age of 60 he was going inside this cave and he came out in the year 2001 - not older then before. Its an "wonder" or miracle in india, but i forget his name.

He comes back to leave a message for mankind, like thousand messiahs before him, like byrd and others and he get back to inner earth.

Ich will go back to india next year, i will go in this gave and i will find the way throught it. Im free at heart, im mixture from christian and buddism and i understand the messages of the old ones, of the gods.

Thanks for your work, and sorry for my bad english, i never learned it in school, i ever understand it like the most languages too. don't know why, there is much stuff i don't know.

but i will find it, that's the reason why i'm here.

----- Original Message -----
From: Dianne Robbins
To: Rodney Cluff
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Fw: hollow earth

Rod,

I thought you might want to contact this person...........Dianne

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe
To: Dianne Robbins
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:47 AM
Subject: hollow earth

Hi, I have in my possession a copy of a letter written on 2 March 1985
from a gentleman named Karl Unger to Mr. Woodard concerning the submarine u-209 commanded by Heinrich Brodda. Given certain coordinates their mission was to travel to the center of the earth, which they did. The letter is written in German and translated into English. Interested? JW

----- Original Message -----
From: Rodney M. Cluff
To: Dianne Robbins
Cc: Joe Watson
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: hollow earth

Joe,

I would certainly be interested in the letter. Could you send it to me?

The English translation.

Thank you very much!

Rodney M. Cluff

---- Joe wrote:

Sorry I haven't got back to you, have had massive rain, flooding, power
out phones down, etc. Dianne Robbins e mailed me back saying the letter was unreadable on her end. Maybe you can try it on your end as you now have a copy. As to how I have a copy of this letter, well here's the story. In 1986 or 87 this gentleman Woodward came into this town of Talkeetna Alaska, but I don't know why. He met a guy I know named Terry Barber who told me what he was planning on doing. After meeting him he told me the following. His Dad had read all the Hollow Earth books had maps and ocean current directions for different times of the year. He died and his son took up where he had left off. He had it figured out that if you flew to Norway and floated on these currents with large rubber rafts you would be taken into the center of the earth. He gave his car away here in Talkeetna flew to L. A. Calif where he was to meet the rest of his team, from there to Norway where all of the gear was waiting. I asked him how he thought he could get away with this without the Feds picking up on it with their satellites, his reply was they were going in under the pretense of a scientific team doing research. He offered to let me go with them and if I hadn't had two boys to raise I would have. Apparently the letter was to his Dad but I don't remember how all of that came about. Having read many of the Hollow Earth books I always believed it was possible. He also claimed to have the original diary of Admiral Byrd describing his 1700 mile journey into the earth. Anyway he let me get a copy of the letter which you now have. As to why now after all these years, hell I don't know I was cruising the net and ran across a link about the Hollow Earth and it brought up old memories of that letter. Give it to anyone you want I want nothing in return, maybe a little info if you will share it. If you send me your address I will make copies of the German and English version and send them to you. The same for Dianne . Any other questions will be happy to oblige if I can. Joe Watson POB 643 Talkeetna
Alaska 99676

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodney M. Cluff"
To: "Joe"
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: hollow earth

Joe,

That is very interesting. Do you know if Woodward was successful in
floating in the rafts to Inner Earth?

I was able to read most of the letter, but if you can send us good clear
copies of both letters that would be fantastic!

I have been working with a group for years to put together an expedition to our hollow earth. Details are on my website.

Rod

---- Joe wrote:

Here are the letters: English translation, Copy of German original

NO, never heard from him again. I ask him this very question and his reply was if I make it I PROBABLY WON'T BE COMING BACK AND THEIR WAS NO WAY TO CONTACT ME. Will mail letters today. JW

Message received through Analia of Argentina:

August, 2005

This is a message from Athos to all those who are planning a trip to Hollow Earth. The trip will be scheduled later than you had thought. This time is necessary . It will help you all learn what you have to learn before coming to the 5th Dimension. It is important that you keep your hearts wide open, since most energy will flow through your 4th chakra. This is the way we start the conversion of the 3rd Dimension’s structure to optimize it for a 5th Dimension activity. Being in the 5th Dimension implies a sense of unity to all forms of Creation. It could be a temporary state, long enough to deal with the changes that the trip itself implies.

We are discussing the terms in which you will have to descend . We shall make circumstances proper to enter the North Pole Hole. As you know , it could be easier for us to transport you all from your own homes to Inner Earth. But the trip will mark a day that will change completely the existence of those living on the surface of Earth.

You need to start -as soon as possible- to communicate among you (the people that are planning to travel) This is extremely important since you will need to operate as a true community. You need to feed a sense of understanding and cooperation among you. It is definitively recommended that you start gathering on a regular basis, and start having contacts among you, at least by e-mail at the beginning. This is a one-purpose task. It is beyond curiosity or eagerness for the unknown. It will mark a hint from where the whole world will learn a different lesson.

You need to be well acquainted to each other’s needs and start operating as a group. You know each other from many other previous lives, and are getting together once again, this time with a specific task to do.

We shall not release the possible dates of the trip. It is not necessary. Free will will guide your way down here. Be patient and trust.

Trust beyond your strength.

It is important that you begin to soften yourselves up and be ready for real changes.

You have been assigned with this special reason in this lifetime. You had agreed to do so, so there is nothing that will keep you off your way.

Start trusting in GOD, that is the answer. You can be completely sure that this mission will come to a happy end.

Trust yourselves, trust your mates, trust you will get here soon.

Time might be manipulated to will. That is lesson number one. You will have to be –every single one of you- almost an expert in manipulating time according to your desires, since that is one of the aspects in which the 5th Dimension manifests.

Meanwhile, we shall work on your mind in a non-violent way. You had given us full permission to do so before you were born in this lifetime, and continue to do so in those aspects where you are not self-conscious.

We work almost every night with your full consent in changing those messages in your DNA that are opposed to the spirit of this mission. You constantly agree and support the process. You might not be aware of it, but you reinforce the task for which your lives make sense.
You are all blessed.

Be patient. We are with you: Many of you might start to be aware of this Reality.

Share it with your mates and share it with the whole world.

You contribute to accelerate the Worldwide Awakening Process.

Athos

January, 2006

This is Athos speaking.

Be open-minded and keep your hearts wide open.

This expedition operates in several levels: Although it is apparently THE expedition in terms of adventure and risk, it implies a great experience not only for you -those who are traveling- but also for the whole human race. It will mark the day in which the veil of ignorance shall fall.

It does not make any difference for the purpose of the trip whether you arrive at Jehu or not.

You will actually land at one of our city labs, where you shall undergo a process to lighten the matter. We need to adapt your frequency level to the Fifth Dimension speed beforehand. You are, even nowadays, undergoing this process.

It is fine if you take a plane instead of a ship. You will finally get here.

But we ask you please to operate as a group. This is so important. It is vital because it is easier for you to adapt to a higher frequency when you add up your energies.

Those of you who have trouble –individually- to think in terms of something beyond curiosity or fame, will profit from the whole group experience.

It shall be simpler to work with the energy of the group as one entity, rather than with the plane of each individual.

Be ready to experience your most magnificent dreams once you get down here.

Thank you.

Athos and the Inner Earth Council

----- Original Message -----
From: Rodney M. Cluff
To: Analía Martini
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: FROM SPHEN-GAIA

Analia,

Can you explain to me how you received this message from inner earth?

Thanks,

Rod

Analia's Response:

The messages come to me as if they were my own thoughts, but they are far more precise and specific. I am always fully conscious when I receive them. I don't change my voice, I don't hear voices, nothing.

It is the way I never have to correct them, how I look up in my mind for a specific word -and not any other- and specially the type of information, the contents and quality of the messages, what confirms me the Source.

I had to fight against myself, I couldn't believe it. Not any more. They had worked on me as well, I am all for this Task. I am blessed and thankful.

The fact that I speak, read and write Irdin, is all that proves what I say. It is basically intuition what drives people to believe about it or not.

I posted a web page with many messages. It is in Spanish. I understand Mr. Currey speaks Spanish fluently.

These messages are about universal themes that concern us all: Creation, Death, Happiness, Doubts, Desires, so forth. I received them from the Ascended Masters and my Spiritual Guides. All of them aim to the implicit focal point of the site: The Ascension Process nowadays.

People from Inner Earth have suggested that I do not post anything of what I Know about them in the web, at least not yet.

But you can check written IRDIN (and its phonetic too) there.
www.grupodeluz.com.ar

A.

----- Original Message -----
From: Analía Martini
To: Rodney M. Cluff
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:07 PM
Subject: FROM SPHEN-GAIA

Dear Rodney,

This is a message I received for you all.

Best regards,
Analía

You are protected and you are being guided.

You have done a very good research and will be welcome.

You will need to undergo a process to adjust the frequency you exist into the one of the Hollow Earth. We will be helping you in the process while you are asleep. You will most probably notice that you start to live somehow differently; you might feel lighter, less dense. It is also very possible that you start having very vivid dreams. It might be useful that you write them down and work on them on your own.

This adjustment consists of enlightening your pineal gland and start activating your right hemisphere. We normally install –with your full consent- a chip that is inserted not precisely in your physical brain but in the layers of your Mind. It contains heavy information about dealing and behaving in the Fifth Dimension. You might probably feel wiser in general.

This is Athos speaking. I will personally escort you to your final destination. Our spacecraft will guide your way from the moment you start entering the North Pole hole. The day will be extraordinary bright -which is unusual- since we provoke a constant stormy weather to difficult the entrance. We project holograms as well to disguise the entrances.

Reiki would be most helpful; it will help you all to connect with your own selves. Once that is done you can easily connect to all forms of Creation.

There are many outsiders living down here. They had agreed to do so and they continue their tasks happily. They are reluctant to go back. Many people who report missing (in the ocean, Bermuda Triangle –dimensional portals-) have not been abducted but personally agreed to live here.

We speak any language we want. We communicate among us in Irdin, although we hardly speak. We mentally contact each other, ubiquity is usual: we co-exist in many in many places at the same time although there is always a nucleus from where the being expands.

The day we shall meet you will be able to see us. We will welcome you and protect you all trip long. It has come the time when the whole world must know we co-exist with you in a different dimension.

All those who are willing to stay will be able to do so; some others that are planning to stay will have difficulty in doing so once they arrive. Many others that have not planned it will stay as well. There are some of you that will quit before the trip starts. That is already written in your own will.

It is us who are planning the way it is all going to happen. You are instruments of this plan. You have been carefully chosen before hand.

The trip will be successful.

Do not worry if the journey is postponed a year or two more. It is all within the plan and will finally happen.

You are all blessed.

We love you dearly, we are very happy for the times to come, and look forward to having you here.

Many of you will be able to communicate freely with us before the trip starts, and most of you will do so once you are back home.

You will be safe. You are safe.

Eventually we shall release more information that will help you finding your way through this part of the world.

From: M Mazel
Date: December 31, 2004, 12:49 PM
Subject: Polar Exp. Hollow earth

Greetings Rodney,

I have contacted Aage the airline pilot and he said he is interested in communicating with you. I included his note at the bottom of this note. Ps the original note to you slipped through my spelling checker....oops

Send him my e-mail address.

I will be glad to talk to him.

Hope to see what info you come up with beneficial to you!

Thank You,

Michael Mazel

From Rodney:

Michael had indicated to me that his friend Aage is a retired airline pilot and that he had told him that he has seen the north polar opening on his airline flights across the arctic. I sent Aage an email and he responded as follows:

Hello Hello,

I am sorry it has taken so long.

I am extremly busy here, and you know how things can get.

I would rather talk to you on the phone.

I do have some information in that area that could be interesting. I grew up in Norway, and at the very northern part of the country it is kind of common knowledge that there is comfortable living climate at the North Pole.

Aage

From: Dan
Date: December 26, 2004, 4:19 AM
Subject: Good Book
Hi Rodney.

I heard you on George Noory the other night. For some reason your manner and what you said appealed to me.

I just got your book. I thought it would be just some entertaining
fiction. (I thought it would be maybe 40 pages long. I surely didn't
think 555.) But I can see from looking through it just a little bit that
it is really something good.

I have a Ph.D. from the University of Illinois at Chicago in continuum
mechanics. I can already see that you put a lot of science into it. The
combination of science with religion is very compelling.

One question that occurred to me when I heard you talk, was why the
oceans wouldn't drain into the hole at the North Pole. I'm sure you have
an answer in the book. (Maybe the ice goes down into the hole,
effectively forming a wall. But then if global warming melts the ice, I
would speculate that the ocean would flow into the hole.)

I hope that in the future you can publish your work as a regular book. I
think you would sell a lot of copies. I would buy one for myself, and
others to give as gifts. I think you have a great combination with the
subject - along with the old stories, text, calculations, pictures,
graphics and photographs.

I think you have devoted yourself to a very interesting and also hopeful
topic. And I think it takes courage to propose a theory that 99.9% of
people would reject without investigation as being absolutely crazy.

Best wishes, and good luck in the future.

Dan Baron.

From: Christy
Date: December 24, 2004, 7:56 AM
Subject: Admiral Byrd's Granddaughter

I was listening to Art Bell this evening and heard Admiral Byrd’s granddaughter ask a question if anyone had information on him. Up here in Alaska there is a gentleman named Col. Norman Vaughn who is 98 years old and went with Byrd on his expedition to the South Pole. He is very lucid for a 98 year old man and might have some information you need. He lives in Anchorage and you should be able to get to him through the Iditarod Trail Committee in Wasilla. There is even a mountain named after him (Vaughn) in Anarctica and he climbed it on his 98th birthday. He is a very interesting man, but I am sure that he won’t be with us for much longer. You can get information on him on the net through search. Hope this helps you. Christy

From: Anne
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 3:33 AM
Subject: Thank you

Dear Rodney, Thank you for sending the long e-mail about Admiral Byrd. You are very kind. It all blows my mind. I don't know whether to believe it or not.

Unfortunately, the people immediately involved are very old or dead by now. I have met Norman Vaughn a few times, he is extraordinary. I have a lot to think about. Whether to try to contact some of the people you mentioned. I am super busy at work right now. I'll have to wait a couple weeks before I have time.

But I do really appreciate your sending me this information. And I wish you good luck on your expedition. I don't know how a ship could be big and strong enough to break all the way throught the polar ice cap. But I suppose you know what you are doing.

Did you know that at the 50th anniversary of Byrd's first flight over the south pole, in order to commemorate that event, a plane full of people took off to fly over the south pole, and the plane was lost? They lost radio contact with the plane, and never heard from it again and no one knew what happened. That was in the 80's. And at that time I heard that several planes have been lost flying over the south pole. Some from Australia. It's kind of like a Bermuda triangle only on a much smaller scale since way less people go to the south pole than to the bermuda triangle. They must have gone inside, hunh? I heard about this at a celebration commemorating the 50th anniversay of Bryd's first flight over the south pole that was held by a club, I forget the name, something like Byrd Aeronautics Club which was held at Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Mi. (Henry Ford worked with Byrd to develop lighter motors for airplanes, and maybe also motors that could operate at sub-zero temperatures.) Maybe all those people went inside the earth and never came out again. Who knows.

Sincerely, Anne Stabler

This email was from Anne Stabler, granddaugher of Admiral Richard E. Byrd. It is interesting that she says she knows of several flights from Australia that have tried to fly through the south polar opening, and never returned. Curiously, if you fly from Australia over the south pole, you would be very likely to fly into the area I have estimated the south polar opening is located.

-- Rodney M. Cluff

From: Louis
Date: Friday, July 09, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: [HollowPlanets] Tesla and the Hollow Earth...

I have recently been involved with designing a self-resonant Tesla Coil
system.

So what does that have to do with the Hollow Earth!!!???

PLENTY!!!

While reading Tesla's "Colorado Springs" notes, I was struck (no pun
intended) by his comments regarding lightning strikes: how he could measure the resonant electrical "ringing" for hours after the strike. These measurements are what helped him determine the Earth's resonant frequencies.

(Later confirmed. Look into "Schumann Resonance".)

I then remembered an old documentary from the '90s called "Lightning: Weapon of the Gods" (a NOVA-style special), which I watched again last night. This tied-up the loose ends for me: the Earth behaves EXACTLY like a LARGE hollow conductive sphere. The ONLY way that the Earth could behave as it does -- electrically speaking -- is if it were a large, HOLLOW SPHERE!!!

Modern lightning research -- conducted by everyone from national weather agencies, to lightning research specialists, to meteorologists and plasma physicists -- confirms what Tesla noted so long ago at Colorado Springs: the Earth acts exactly as a large, hollow, spherical capacitor would...

----- Original Message -----
From: LuAnne McGuire
To: Rodney Cluff
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:11 PM
Subject: THE HOLLOW EARTH

HELLO,

IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE LORD HAS KEPT THE TEN TRIBES SAFE FROM MAN FOR SUCH A LONG TIME! I'M SURE THAT EVEN IF YOU WERE IN CONTACT WITH THE PROPHET, HIS DIRECTION TO YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE TO LEAVE IT ALONE! I HAVE ALSO STUDIED "THE HOLLOW EARTH" FOR OVER 35 YEARS. I ALSO HAVE 20 PLUS YEARS WITH SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 8 "SEABEES". THEY'RE THE ONES WHO MAINTAIN THE DETS OF ANTARTICA, THE SOUTH POLE, AND THE NORTH POLE BASES, AND YES, THE TEN TRIBES ARE THERE! I'VE PERSONALLY HAD TWO FULL-BIRD CAPTAINS (06) WHO HAVE TOLD ME OF THE SECRET STUDIES OF OUR SCIENTISTS GOING DOWN AND WORKING WITH THE TRIBES. YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY MAN OR WOMEN WHO BELIEVES IN, AND WANTS TO GO THERE! THE GREAT PROPHET, PRESIDENT WILFORD WOODRUFF, ALSO SPOKE OF THE COMING OF THE TRIBES IN THE LAST DAYS! I ALSO REMEMBER A WARNING HE WROTE ABOUT, THAT SAID THAT IF MAN WAS TO TRY AND GO DOWN THERE, HE WOULD BE DESTROYED!!! MY DEAR BROTHER, PLEASE WRITE THE PROPHET AND GET COUSEL ON THIS GRAVE ISSUE! I TOO SHARE THAT DREAM BUT I ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT IF THE LORD WANTED JACK MCGUIRE TO GO, HE WOULD PROVIDE A PLAN AND DIRECTIONS! PLEASE THINK ABOUT SHARING THIS KNOWLEDGE WITH THE WORLD! IT'S THIS WORLD THAT DESTROYED OUR LORD, JESUS CHRIST!!! MUCH LOVE, JACK A. MCGUIRE/LDS.

REPLY:

Jack,

It's good to hear from you again!

Yes, I have contacted the prophet about the hollow earth location of the lost ten tribes and have a letter in response. It was several years ago when President Ezra Taft Benson was prophet.

His letter said that the church does not have a position on the hollow earth theory, and that if I have any questions about the lost ten tribes, to talk to my local Stake President or Bishop.

I have not been counseled to leave the topic alone, as you surmise. I have only been asked not to teach the theory in church. Only church approved materials can be taught inside the church building. Outside the church, I can do what I want as long as it is ethical and moral.

Actually, there have been several people that have been to our hollow earth, visited with the people there, and have returned safely, and not destroyed as you say. I have seen no evidence of anyone going to the hollow earth and being destroyed. The accounts we have indicate that the people there are very friendly and do not try to prevent visitors from returning to the surface world. However, I am sure that the Lord has preserved their land by the unbelief of the exterior world peoples. I was showing all my studies on the hollow earth as being the most probable location the Lord has hidden the lost ten tribes to a high priests group last night, and I don't think any of them believed a word of it. They weren't antagonistic, but just kindly listened to all I had to say. I don't think they will believe it until I actually go there and bring back our IMAX film of the expedition.

There are, however, many interested people in joining our expedition. We get several inquiries every week and once in a while one will book the trip. We are hoping to have enough voyagers to make our expedition a GO by 2006.

We are going on this expedition in the spirit of Christopher Columbus. Columbus wrote, ...our Lord unlocked my mind, sent me upon the sea, and gave me fire for the deed. Those who heard of my enterprise called it foolish, mocked me, and laughed. But who can doubt but that the Holy Ghost inspired me?" (Jacob Wasserman, Columbus, Don Quixote of the Seas, p. 20)

We are confident we have located the coordinates of the north polar opening and with use of gyroscopes we will be able to detect when we are beginning to descend into the opening. We invoke the Lord's blessings and protection on our voyage to Our Hollow Earth Expedition Cruise.

You are invited to join us, if after prayerful consideration, you would so desire. If not, if you want I can place you on our expedition UPDATES so you can hear about our progress.

Next Year in Eden,

Rodney M. Cluff, author
World Top Secret: Our Earth Is Hollow!
http://www.ourhollowearth.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Currey
To: Rodney Cluff
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:51 PM
Subject: Currey Expedition

Rod:

I appreciate very much your information. My expedition in general will include the following. I already have clients interested.

(1)Arrival to Moscow. I have an office there for my rafting company. We will spend a couple of days in Moscow. Staying at hotel "Russia".

(2) 6 days rafting on the Indigikra River.

(3) Charter Cruise to New Siberian Islands- spend a couple of days on the Islands checking out the exotic animal skeletons.

(4) Charter Cruise towards North Pole with coordinates to Polar opening via Russian Icebreaker via my Russian contacts. In search of Sannikov Land.

I should have a pricing for the trip next week. Would you be interested in joining the expedition? Do you know of any LDS adventuresome folks who would be interested in joining the expedition? Best if we could find qualified LDS participants who have experience in the region, have knowledge such as yourself on this subject, have navigational skills etc.

By the way, good non-LDS qualified folks are welcome as well, we'll just convert them on the trip. Bring lots of Books of Mormon ( I handed out 20 in Russia last year, one couple may get babtized in Barnaul, Siberia real soon).

Very Best,

Steve Currey
The Expedition Company

REPLY:

Steve,

Sounds good. How much do you estimate the price per person for this
expedition?

Thanks,

Rod

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