For all newbies - "upvote me - upvote you" is not the right way!

in steemit •  7 years ago  (edited)

Dear Steemians, I know how hard it is for a newcomer here. Many of you just heard about a platform where you get paid for your posts and maybe you have seen some with payouts above hundreds in trending section and tought it is always like that - easy fast money.
And some of you heard about a community of people who support each other and make valuable content so you wanted to join and share your work, art or toughts too.

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Valuable content is the right way!

There are too many people who want to get rich fast with as little work as possible. They post waste and write general comments like "good post", or "it is cool", then you think they have to be bots, and they really are in many cases, because sometimes their reaction really doesnt match with the post content.
And here are also those who write "upvoted, please upvote me", or "follow me, follow you" and this kind of stuff. I am telling you - dont do this! Because this kind of things do newbies who came here for fast money mostly.

Try to understand, we all want to be followed and upvoted, but it is not good to tell it to everyone this way, because it is so obvious. There are other ways how to get what you want. It requires more energy and time, but the results are better not only for you, but for Steemit and for the whole community too. You should not think just about yourself and in a short term!

If you post some really good content and someone will comment it after a few seconds "upvoted, please upvote me" you feel like: "I spent 2 hours on this post, bring value and someone upvoted me just because he wants that upvote back? No way!"

Feel the difference

You can earn upvotes and followers in two ways. Create good posts, or create good comments. Or you can try both, that is even better.
First of all, read posts! If you want to be noticed through comments write something meaningful not just random waste. I know we do not want to comunicate always and we feel tired sometimes (I know what I am saying, Im not very social) but if you want to succeed you should put an effort into it.

For example you want to comment a post of some writer, do not write just "good story", but say what you liked about it, add some ideas and if you are a writer too, you can add that you also wrote about that theme, or you never did.
And if your english is bad? Nevermind! Steemit is a place where you can improve your skills in many areas. I also use translator now, it is ok :)

If you make valuable posts and want them to be visible, voting bots can help you sometimes! I use mostly @minnowbooster and @booster. It is simple and your money will come back to you and more people will see your post. It is not the best way, but it is better than begging for upvotes.

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My findings and rules I follow

You should never

  1. post photos without description.
  2. post too short posts. (Maybe just occasionaly)
  3. use wrong tags
  4. use too long titles with too many emojis

Always try to

  1. choose interesting thumbnail
  2. write clear accurate title
  3. use paragraphs and headings
  4. add quality photos

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Those are the simplest rules. You can look at other sucessful authors and learn from them. There are always things you can improve.
Think about the comunity and your future in the connection with the whole Steemit, because if you want to abuse the system you hurt not only others, but yourself.

 

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I have updated you, you do according to your words. Thanks.

You should never
post photos without description.
post too short posts. (Maybe just occasionaly)
use wrong tags
use too long titles with too many emojis
Always try to
choose interesting thumbnail
write clear accurate title
use paragraphs and headings
add quality photos

thanks for the tips you provided here, I pray they listen and learn from this, but its a pity because the people that need this particular info will never read it because theirs is to upvote and search for followers, not knowing that if you plat your game(good and valuable writeups, reasonable comments and reading of others valuable post) you will never beg people to follow you, instead they will be begging to follow you because of the value you are adding ro their life.

My dear, this is the one of the best post ive read since i joined this platform, its educative, informative, and advisable.

In addition, getting a niche is a good tips too, let people know you for something.

once again thanks for your writeups it keeps me reminded.

I am sure some of them will leave after their disapointment and maybe some of them will try to change their strategy, who knows.. in boths cases its good...

glad you think that, thanks :)

my pleasure dear

  ·  7 years ago 

This is an awesome tips for newbies. Asking for follow, upvote and/or resteem is just not the right way. Leaving constructive and good comments will automatically lead to a follow or a visit to the profile and then maybe a upvote or resteem

thats it... but some people dont realise it..

  ·  7 years ago 

Ya... Getting more and more "spammy" comments nowadays...
Nice post. Come follow me. Like my post.... Etc...

Check out @moonbot :)

I totally agree with this one. Some writers are struggling to create a good post which takes them more than 30 minutes to be completed. Because they do research on it or if it was an experience that they had. They will try to revise it multiple times to make sure that the audience will be able to understand what they are trying to portray. I'll go with the good comments strategy because I think that creating a long post is not really my forte :)

This one is an awesome, informative and worth resteeming post.

There are lots of authors like that, they should be noticed and with the right approach they will be. Im more at post than comment, but comments are equally important :)

Yep I totally agree with you.

Great post and advise,
I am just doing what I am doing and hoping to slowly grow on here, meantime making new and good friend son here

Thank you for sharing

So you managed to read this article in 1 minute

yes, i skim very fast. That's why im awesome.

Thanky you for this intersting message. It is simmulary to outside in the real world. Nobody whant to invest Time, work oder brain power to get an react. Everybody like to sit on the couch and wait for that money will sprinkle from the sky. So if you want to be different anyway you have to show this in your personality and your way how you react with you friends and people around you. Thanks for your open words and such Todo list in point of confidence.

you are right, the world works like that... it looks like people who dont understand it here on Steemit dont know about it in the real life too :)

Very nice post....and reminder. I believe sharing value is the most important of posting anything. When we shoot for value, you never know who's life you will be impacting in a positive way. Thank you!

This post has received a 20.46 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @marty-arts.

You are so right! Everytime I see such a comment I'm wondering. Same on some steemit Facebook Groups. I don't upvote someone because he upvoted me. I upvote valuable posts which I like. I rather look at the profiles from people who made a constructive comment on my post. And if I see something I like, I upvote it without the need of somebody to say I should do so. :)
Nice post.

On the same note are the comments "follow me I follow you". Or post the same comment every time.
One time, I checked a guy that placed a comment on one of my posts. If you looked on his comments tab, he had only the same comments posted over and over again.

yeah and they are flaged after and lose their reputation.. so what is it good for? they dont realise its against them...

Nice post, I think great content is key too :-)

thats the most certain thing! and everyone who come to Steemit should have this knowledge :)

That´s true :-)

At last a post that engages the problem and gives sound and meaningful advice. Thank you for sharing that very enlightening article. I totally agree with you that this is not the right way. When I encounter such post I always take the time to engage them and remind them that their way of getting followers and upvotes is not accepted in the steemit community. When i am tired I just ignore them. The problem is some steemians don't they just flag them. I guess that is their prerogative. But what happens to the newbie? Based on my experience if a fellow steemian will just take the time to explain to them what they are doing is something wrong and it negatively impacts the community more often than not they will listen.

It is my humble opinion that begging is not the right way to do it and negatively impacts the community. But flagging without effort to remind or teach is much worse.

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Upvoted, now it's your turn.

LOL

Could you clarify what you mean by "too short posts"? What is a satisfactory length to earn upvotes?

I post funny comics with two or three panels and a brief description. It's hard to write anything longer because I don't want to give the punch line away.

thats one of the subjective things.. for example I dont like when someone just share a picture he found somewhere on internet.. look at this for example.. I searched in art for new posts.. and I couldnt find anything I would really like to upvote.. there werearound 7 posts by different people one by one just pictures and headlines.. In some cases I dont know if they painted it, or if it is their photo, or what is it about.. but your posts are different.. you create, so thats the value.. I would add some signature at the end.. or something short about you, so people would know who are you and that this is your work.. it looks more professional if you have some simple nice and informative footer..

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Thanks for the feedback and the screenshot. I appreciate it! I'll create a footer with some biographical information. I think changing my profile picture to an actual photo of myself, like most Steemians, will help too.

Great post and nice advises. I think everybody should have fun challenging instead of asking for upvote, otherwise it becomes boring and doesnt make any sense.

thats it... it feels forcibly then.. we are here to have fun, learn and talk, not to be flooded by trash and meaningless words..

Yes thats true and sometimes I dont have enough steem power to upvote everybody and I feel really sad because they would think that I am ignoring the,.

Thankyou for your words and pictures. Even I might learn to draw. and I like the way steemit should work.

Overall in terms of what to do vs what not to do in a post, i believe it all comes down to context. There are no laws set in stone generally (except stuff like hate-speech and plagiarism, those will leave one right in the cross hairs of the judicial arms), Apps like Zappl makes it possible to post stuff within 200 characters, and once in a while a satire post ✔ choke 👊👌full 💪of 💯emoji 💩drives home a message better than a wall of text.

I'd say engagement is underrated around here. If one is able to truly communicate with his/her audience, have meaningful exchange, truly provide value, one is way ahead of the game. No amount of follow4follow can trump that.

Great advice. In the long term the returns you'll see off creating great content day after day will make you 1000x more than upvote for upvote!

Hello, greetings from Colombia, I'm following you and giving like, I would like to see me and support me, thank you

Thanks for the knowledge. I need to hear as I am a newbie and found some ask me to follow them and they follow me. I was like "hmm, what should I do?" Anyway I have decided to follow those whom I really want to follow. Thanks for this post. :)

it is much better to follow people you like, because we are here for quality content, not for upvoting garbage. if your posts will be good, you will get followers because of it, not because you owe uptove to someone. Wish you good luck! :)