There's a bandwagon mentality forming on Steemit between quality writers, filled with expectations & hate.
Shots fired!
Last night when I was commenting on a post, I got into a heated argument with @kyriacos. You can view it here on @joseph's post. In the end we both butted heads, throwing out ugly comments at each other because we refused to see eye-to-eye.
The gist of the argument was due to the fact that author rewards are low, really low, and for authors who've been here since before the hype phase it's hurting their pockets. However @kyriacos and the bandwagon that followed him in the comment section, all seemed to forget some key factors as to why their rewards have slumped; No. 1 being the price of Steem is below .25 US cents.
In their comments they suggested that there's a favoritism between whales and who they decide to vote on, which is substantiated when we consider who's always on the trending page. In saying that, whales are people just like you and me who are going to like whatever they like, not what you want. Why would they vote on something you don't like? It's as if these guys, who spend hours creating their posts like the rest of us, have become so entitled that they forget how to actually write a good post.
They also suggested in their comments that @dollarvigilante is a scam artist/fraud and because of these reasons he should not be receiving the rewards that he does as it promotes a bad image for Steemit, yet he still reaps rewards because he's a whale favorite. Honestly I can see their point if @dollarvigilante has scammed people in the past, but come on, as if none of them have made mistakes in their life times. That's not the point I'm trying to make here, but they should definitely look in a mirror before ripping on someone else's reputation.
Self-entitled hatred
What I've mentioned so far is not what pissed me off. What annoyed me was the fact that most of these people arguing their point had been here for as long as myself, if not longer, and were complaining about their rewards. @stellabelle was one of these people, who by the way has over 135,000 Steem Power, which is a lot more than most of us even dream of having. It was her that was calling on a Steemit 2.0.
That really grinds my gears, because for me I'm here for the community and experience, not the rewards. At first I was brought here by the rewards and the potential to earn on the side, but that's since changed. I wish to see this place thrive. That's hardly going to happen when we're bashing the platform left, right, & center.
It's this toxic mentality that is hurting us as a community. Of course there are going to be problems as we grow, but if we decide to handle these problems as would children in a schoolyard, then in the end we're all going to get sent home disappointed.
It saddens me that it has come to the point I feel a need to write a post about it, because when I first came here the expression felt from authors was all rainbows & lollipops. That has now changed. It seems as if by rewarding these authors with ridiculous amounts of money, they've now come to expect these rewards in the future regularly. I've heard some authors have quit their day jobs for Steemit and now regret it, as if it's the platforms fault for their decision. It's as if these authors have completely forgotten that we're a new platform, that we rely on market sentiment for rewards, and that there's less than 10,000 regularly active accounts here per day.
Closing statement
I don't want to become part of the problem and add to the heated debate as to whether or not Steemit is becoming toxic, what I do want is for people to wake up to themselves. Don't be so entitled as to expect thousands of dollars every time you write something. I've read a lot of posts here and to be honest, there's a lot of authors that fly under the radar while a lot of crappy authors are getting promotions. The seasoned Steemit veterans(if you can call them that) need to wake up to themselves and show a little bit more gratitude for what they've already been given.
There should be no reason as to why you can't ignore authors that you don't enjoy looking at. In the future there will be more whales who will vote on a much wider variety of posts that they like. We can't help that for now, the wealth here is distributed from a select few accounts that hold it. It's something that we each should've come to terms with after our first month here. In saying that, nothing is stopping some venture capitalist from becoming the next big whale account by investing $2 billion SP into their own account, and if that happens then you can expect Steemit to change again.
This is a volatile platform, the likes of which has never been seen before its inception. We need to each realize that without our commitment during this phase of volatility, this platform will die. It's up to us to work together to create the environment we wish to see in the future. If you have a problem with certain authors getting rewards then take it up with that author, or create a post about it and expose them for what you think they are, but don't go throwing shit all over the place like some diarrhetic baboon who hasn't been fed in a couple weeks.
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xD
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lol
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hahahaha! My point exactly!
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LOL >_<
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I think anyone who quit their job for Steemit was premature. This is a beta site with a few thousand active users. It's no competitor for Youtube yet. In time the Steem price could recover and make it more viable for people, but for now it's about building communities and followings to make it useful. The features are going to evolve in the next few months.
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Exactly. Try explaining that to the haters club. I'm glad there's those of us who see a long-term future for Steemit. Thanks for your input @steevc
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I tend to agree with you. While I would love to see more returns on my posts, at the same time I'm building for the future.
While some may believe Steemit is heading to the dustbin, I don't think so when people are still buying in. The buy ins are not yet overtaking the powerdowns but it will come. Those who can see the bigger picture will hang in. Those who can't, will grumble and mumble, even scream about it and then largely move on. The sooner they do the move on, the sooner others can focus more on building.
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Hey fellow kiwi.
Personally I get excited if I break the $5 mark, and when I get $20-30 I'm thrilled.
Steem on bro.
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You hit that nail it's self entitled head!
I just posted along the same lines, but in a different manner to stress the same point.
Overall, that attitude is
LAME
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haha I just saw your post. Great minds think alike :D
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Hopefully, at least from one of us, folks will get the message.
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I think they will, and once they do, the hate will stop. Time will tell. For now, it's those of us with a long-term view & dedication toward Steemit who keep the place alive.
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Yeah man, keep it alive.
Keep that good spirit and right attitude alive too!
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Now that I've been on both sides, I totally agree with what you're saying. I haven't bashed the platform or have been a whale (I wish) or anything, but I felt a degree of that self-entitlement a few months back. I stepped back and reassessed everything, and realized how silly it was to be chasing after rewards.
As @lukestokes put it, "everything is a gift". People forget to realize that if they post something that earned a dollar here, it would've earned nothing in other social media sites. That dollar can already be considered a profit.
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Absolutely agree with you. If you're getting salty because you're not attracting "big money" like you were beforehand, maybe you should pull up your britches and get back to work.
There's two things going on here: first, the valuation of STEEM, right now, is well below its $4 USD high back in July. This means that each vote - even whale votes - are inherently not worth as much as they were back then. So yes, of course your reward earnings have fallen off - EVERYONE'S have.
Also, let's get real here: you can adjust your voting power. This means that if a whale does give you an upvote, you are unlikely to get their 100% reward because they're diluting it on purpose. No, not because your content isn't "good enough" to receive a full upvote - because this allows whales to spread their votes more widely, increasing the distribution of funds across a larger number of accounts. Don't get pissed because we're all sharing in the benefits of that, you spoiled brats.
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@senseiteekay I wouldn't mind titusfrost, pretty sure he's projecting on you, trying to work out the shame and pain he given by this post here
See, notice how he's even mimicking the same style of argument employed against him. But if you REALLY want a laugh, check out the hidden comment under his reply lol.
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Like your staight forward talking. Upvoted n following.
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Good one, I followed you for that! Money affects people in different ways and when it is perceived as been taken away, some people tend to throw their toys out of the cot. A lot of people also pinned Steemit as being a solution to their financial woes, which most of us have, and have channeled their disappointment into anger. I joined Steemit at the apex of its' rise and made a little money. I was sad to see this little extra income dry up, but I am fascinated with this experimental platform. I have no clue what the future will hold. My Steem Power is growing so obviously I hope for the very best.
There is another way I view the issue. With the astronomical payments drying up, it seems that more ordinary authors, other than the early adopters are getting a chance to be recognised. Maybe we are the second wave, and will be the ealy adopters of the future? :)
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I feel that we may be @onetree. Who knows at this point. I'm starting to realize that when it comes to Steemit, anything is possible.
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Guys, chill out :) This isn't helping anybody. It's true that, in a twisted way, this way of reacting created more content which in turns attract rewards, but hey, this is spiraling down. The more heat you put in, the less people will have you follow these kind of posts. At best, you'll end up with no readership, at worst, the entire platform goes down because it will be labelled as a "crypto-anarcho-assholes hole" where everybody complains...
I've seen websites growing and falling for 17 years now. What we have here is a big opportunity.
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My point exactly. We just need to chill out and keep steeming. The hatred I've seen lately benefits no one and only destroys us. We need to come together again as a community & start communicating properly so that we can prosper onward toward better things.
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Hmm... the nature of volatility is it goes up and down.
In one sense, I really do see your point; and in another sense, the people who are doing what you are talking about are also to be expected.
We can take a note from this election cycle as example: in reality, the polls don't matter, but people will freak out from day-to-day about poll volatility.
Huh, I guess there's an allegory here. You could say that the people who come here because they like the platform (uncensored, blockchain based, free market, etc.) or community are like voters who choose their candidate by policy, in which case you could have made up your mind months ago; whereas people who come here for the payouts are like voters who choose their candidate based on poll numbers or the current public drama, in which case the currency value volatility is a prime factor in your involvement.
In my case, it's interesting: I've recently written two articles that have gotten around 150 upvotes. That's nice and I appreciate the attention (It's more than I get posting on facebook or twitter, for sure), but because no whales were involved, the payout is low -- less than $2 for each. Do I care? Not really. The platform is the reason I post here and not another blog: @steemit is convenient, easy, and the community is generally higher-functioning than other platforms (so far). Plus, I know that the value of the platform could drop or skyrocket at any moment, and the reasons for this would be completely out of my hands.
So I don't worry about it.
I've adopted and dropped blogging platforms in the past, and it wouldn't be a problem to do it again. But it's really not something that worries me.
In the end I'm optimistic. This experiment could fail, in which case I've lost nothing. However, it could also become a big hit and replace reddit, In which case I got here early and can reap the benefits of early adoption.
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See, even when breaking it down analytically it's a no brainer. Nice input @shayne. Seems like you could almost make your own post with these thoughts, you'd probably get a better response than me seeing that I'm biased toward this place succeeding.
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I wrote this article a few weeks back Don't Let Authoritarians Destroy Steemit Like They Did Google Plus.. You see I was one of the ones that made Google Plus awesome (yes I just praised myself) but there are always groups that will try to undermine and control. They can't help it, statism is in their nature. The best we can do is have as much fun as we can.
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Thank you @hilarski. Your support means a lot.
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Can we get back to writing and building up Steemit now, or should I make some more popcorn?
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I up-voted your post because I mostly agree with you, however I just want to point out some inconsistency...
You say:
Then follow that up with an image of an African American, are you trying to imply African Americans are baboons? That's what I got from your choice of .gifs. I doubt that is the case, but you may want to think about that next time.
Secondly earlier you stated,
This is what is known as a double standard. So you say it is fine to post criticism of authors, so long as they are not the dollar vigilante, because in that case any wrongs we have done in our lives do not allow us to criticize him of course. You do see the double standard here correct?
Lastly calling StellaBelle entitled, when she has brought a lot of value to this platform is ridiculous.
I don't mean to come off as mad or anything, but seriously, those are some issues with this post for me. The rest I generally agree with.
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Bro, that's totally out of context. Don't go making me out to be a racist. That's purely disgusting. I'm an indigenous New Zealander AKA a Maori and I stand for NONE of that racist bullshit.
It's fine to post criticism of other authors given you can back up those claims with substantiated evidence. So far I have seen little solid evidence that proves @dollarvigilante scammed people. I've seen some evidence but nothing that solidifies these claims. In saying that, what's to stop me from digging in to your own life and exposing the wrongs that you've done @titusfrost? I've seen you bashing TDV on youtube so from where I stand you're opinion is already very biased to begin with.
And I disagree. I don't think that stellabelle has brought any people here. She has little following within the social media circuit. I didn't even hear of her until I came here. Her youtube following is a mere 300+ followers. From what I understand she's only produced one successful book in her time(apologies for any ignorance, I've not followed stellabelle as an author).
I don't mean to come off as controversial but your claims are unsubstantiated, along with the rest of people that hate Steemit right now. I've seen you following the choir when it comes to these issue and I'm disappointed that you believe the hype.
Sorry if I sound offensive, but honestly, I'm sick of this wanna-be libertarian behavior I'm seeing. You're all acting as vigilantes when in reality you're just jumping on the bandwagon.
Provide some factual evidence instead of edited videos, maybe then I'd be willing to believe your negative attitudes toward authors here on Steemit. Until then, stop bringing the rest of the community down with your pathetic conspiracy theories. If you're to be a conspirator about anything, choose a much more relevant topic such as the farce we've seen in this years political campaign, rather than a social media website that's barely seen the light of day.
Psssh.
PS: I was drunk when I wrote this rebuttal.
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Do you have the necessary comprehension skills when drunk to argue with me? Clearly not. I am gonna let most of that bs reponse you just gave me go and just deal with the lies and threats you just spewed at me...
I didn't call you a racist. Read, stop drinking, I said:
Secondly, You clearly have never watched a single video of mine on YouTube because I have never once mentioned the Dollar Vigilante in any film I have ever made. Have I commented on his bs channel, about his bs Shemitah crap, you bet. Funny it's now October 20th, what happened to the Shemitah on Oct 2nd? There is a scam for you right there with evidence, deal with it.
As for your threat:
Go right ahead. Go dig up my past, like multiple hackers haven't already. Do you even know who I am? Nope. You wrote some bs reponse whilst drunk. So congrats, good luck doxxing me. We shall see what happens when I dig up your shit in response. You think I am scared of you? Lolz my Hillary Clinton documentary about her killing people has over 200k views, I got way bigger fish to fry than you or the TDV. You are clearly a TDV fan boy who can't take hearing criticism of him. Go have another drink.
Lastly, you said:
That is absolutely hilarious coming from a TDV fan boy, who follows that scam artist and believes everything he says. Pretty sure you are the one following some one else dude. You "vigilante" you, ROFL. Please I'll be out organizing protests MYSELF while you are just another keyboard warrior.
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You literally just called me a racist, out of context, and now you're trying to justify it. I don't care what you're explanation is, that shit doesn't fly with me. If you'd seen the youtube videos called "rap battle parody" then you'd understand that the gif is a joke depicting a mic drop, but Instead you took it out of context and used it as a reason to bash me, which is part of the problem my post is addressing.
And I'm no fanboy of @dollarvigilante. I don't care what he does. You on the other hand said, and I quote, "Jeff Berwick is a tool. I have been calling him out for his sensationalist bullshit, but I had no idea he was this big of a scam artist.". That's a direct quote from you on this youtube video which proves you obviously have a biased opinion toward @dollarvigilante.
Mate, even when I'm drunk I respond more rationally then you do. Go join the haters and fuck off.
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Yes that is a direct quote of me, I stand by it, as I will continue to say:
No response for that huh? Not gonna try to defend his Shemitah bullshit?
What do you not understand about the words: "I Doubt that is the case" where do you not comprehend that one?
Not a fanboy of Berwick = me rofl. Right, keep telling yourself that. When your post started with a picture of you imitating TDV:
Still waiting for your response to your fucking threat by the way. What did your toughness shrivel up when you realized my twitter account has hundreds of Anons & other hackers following it? That I am an OpICEISIS hunter, and I have actual very dangerous people trying to do what your sorry ass threatened? That I make videos about the very politicians running the country I live in, that could have me killed at any time without a single care? What happened to your threat about digging up my past? Still waiting for that damning evidence you are gonna find that so many others couldn't find because it doesn't exist. Any day now keyboard warrior...
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The only keyboard warrior here is you. You've taken what I've said here out of context and expect me to reply rationally when everything you've said is irrational. I don't care what following you have, if you knew me then you'd understand that I have very little respect when it comes to "internet fame", in fact I loathe it. I had a look at your youtube videos and, just as I suspected, they're just as unsubstantiated as your claims here.
Please provide evidence next time you talk shit.
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There's no doubt he's anti-semitic. He's just skirting around it in a way people could shrug off as not directly pointing the finger at jewish people. For sure, he is smart enough to keep to himself that he believes that a 'kabal of Jews' run the world at the expense of everyone else. It's glaringly obvious to anyone who wants to see it.
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Oh, and I don't care about your past. That was somewhat of an empty threat, but I'm sure if some hacker within our decentralized community had a second worth sparing, he'd be able to find some dirt on you. It's not hard these days.
Stop finding reasons to bash people and instead continue with your own aspirations.
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Wow still no response to the Shemitah huh? Not gonna touch that one huh?
ROFL, wow you got me. You're only comeback is to repeat what I said back at me like some infantile moron? What are you five years old? How many protests have you organized and lead? How many books do you have published? How many documentaries do you have online with any views at all? How many tweets have you put out there that would lead to ISIS terrorists and very powerful politicians running Australia where you live wanting you dead? None, you just post whiny rants for money about other nations leaders online and then do nothing else. Nothing that I can find anywhere at least. I have done all of these, you? What good have you done for anyone but yourself and your self promoting bullshit on steemit for money? A couple of posts about push ups? Wow, really changing society there.
If you are going to make accusations and spew libel you better have some evidence to back up your total bullshit. Do you have any? No, you just claim to have watched my stuff, in about the thirty seconds since my response and decided it is "unsubstantiated", uh uh. Great research you really got me there. Lolz.
More unsubstantiated bullshit, you are making assumptions that I have some dark hidden past, because what? Nothing, you have nothing. There is nothing to find, I welcome anyone to look. The fact I have to respond to your empty threat is proof in itself you are a butt hurt asshole who spews libel about people you don't know.
Nothing was "out of context", I was quoting you directly. Anyone reading this can see that. Like these gems of yours:
So which is it, do you care how many followers someone has or not? Lolz, I am done. End of Line man.
Have a nice life. You will only hear from me again if you actually try to make good on your empty threat, because I will do a full dox on you. Like I have done to others. Check the stripes bitch. Unlike you, I do not make empty threats... as others have found out already.
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You have no idea about the community lead activism that I've been involved in and the struggles that I've lead. If you knew me then you'd understand that I've lead community movements in New Zealand, but you don't know me so you should shush your batty.
Your claims are unsubstantiated. You've taken my words out of context and, have no idea what that actually means when I say that.
You know nothing about me friend. You're making yourself look like an idiot with your ad hominems.
Please perform a "dox" on me. I have nothing to hide, And by the way I have backup connections to fall back on. Your threats mean nothing to me. The fact that you're threatening me proves how much of a poor human being you are. Along with your poorly researched youtube videos.
Please, fuck off.
Edit: I don't give a fuck about shemitah. I don't follow @dollarvigilante or any other jew bashers so I have no idea what that shits about. Call it ignorance if you like but I have no reason to waste my time researching blood moons. Stop suggesting that you know me and what I do. You don't know shit about me.
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The Jubilee Year has officially ended… or has it?
I received this about a month ago from a Jewish scholar:
The Yuval (Jubilee) ends on Yom ha Kippur (Day of Atonement), which is on October 11th at sundown, not on October 2nd, which is Rosh Hashanah. The Shemitah always ends on Yom ha Teruah (Day of Trumpets), Yom ha Din (Day of Judgement) and Rosh Hashanah (Head Year), which are all on the same day, but not the Jubilee. It ends ten days later after the ten days of awe.
But, October 11th is a Tuesday, where the markets will be open… in October. In a Shemitah/Jubilee year. When was the biggest market crash of all time (23% in one day)? – in an October, just after a Shemitah (a little less than 3 weeks after) – It was Black Monday in 1987.
Shemitahs occur once every seven years and Jubilees occurs once every seven Shemitahs – or every 49 years. Repetitive disasters mark these timelines. War, along with economic and political disasters, occur over and over again.
They wouldn’t do so in this fashion if they weren’t being pre-planned to send a message.
https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/author/jeff-berwick
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Hi @senseiteekay, I just stopped back to let you know your post was one of my favourite reads today and I included it in my Steemit Ramble. You can read what I wrote about your post here.
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I think you're missing the point with peoples concerns. It's not all about the benjamins,
The concerns about TDV being on the trending page, is the concerns people have for someone repping Steemit, who might not be a good public image. I'm not here to critiize people and whales who are voting for him. I think it's likely there wasnt a close enough look taken at that.
Plus terms like 'New World Order' aren't going to win Steemit any users. It's associated with anti-semitic consipiracists. There are other good writers that have deserved their trending page status, making this platform look less like Porn for fringe politiks. Let's call the rest of the world scared sheeple and see if they don't think it smells like cult.
and I'm def not one to be offended by anything for the sake of 'propriety'.
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