Today I received a heavy downvote/flag from sneak - the manager of the technical side of the Steemit project because he disagrees with my dissenting voice against the government narrative on vaccinations. He stated that he intends to downvote/flag any post on the whole network that contradicts the 'official narrative' on vaccinations and thereby will stifle discussion of this important topic on steemit.com.
I offered him an opportunity to comment on the actual science involved rather than resorting to personal attacks, but he has so far not responded.
Given that there is a fairly strong presence on Steemit of parents who have experienced injury to their children as a result of vaccinations and given that Steemit is held up as being a system that those who prefer free speech can benefit from participation in, what does this turn of events mean for us?
What do you think? Setting aside your own position on vaccines, do you think it's good to be able to shut down conversation on topics you disagree with? Let us know in the comments below.
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@sneak is Vaccine Damaged, so you’ll have to excuse his autism spectrum disorder. But he’s an excellent example of why STINK is a miserably abusive company run by completely inept “executives”.
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I like your comment about him being vaccine damaged! full upvote for that one!
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I am pro-vaccines but this comment is hilarious. I will give you that :D
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followed, muahahaha
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Scientism is a big religion here for some of the bigger players. Disagreements of this nature should generally be handled with words, and not financial sanctions.
If @sneak wants to soft censor people, let the market know it.
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I intend to, yes - I am about to upload a video where I am starting to explain how to apply to social networks, lessons learned over decades of research into systems and balance. That's my constructive action for the day. The next mission is to make a detailed post highlighting the details of the actual flagging and hypocrisy involved here.
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@kafkanarchy84 One of the most important and underused words of our time right there.
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Free speech is on it's way out. There are quite a few topics you better not write about if you don't want to get flagged or taken down. If steemit get's big enough to really make a difference in public opinion, it will go the same route youtube has taken. Dissent is not liked anymore. Neither by the powerful, nor by the indoctrinated. Future generations will be sterile, controlled from cradle to grave, socially engineered, have an IQ of 80 and will love their servitude. All we can do is to enjoy irritating the politically correct morons as long as we can. Will be over soon enough.
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I have actually had two death threats on G+ for writing about vaccine science and also had a huge comment section shut down on iflscience.com for posting peer reviewed studies that demonstrate the weakness of the 'official narrative' regarding vaccines - instead of commenting or correcting/rebutting me, they simply stopped comments (which had been live for a long time).
It isn't really possible for Steem as it is to be as controlled as youtube - it would require a huge shift in the code to make that happen, but it is certainly not impossible. That said though, the code can be duplicated and run by anyone with the knowledge to do so - so in one way or another the idea will persist.
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Well, you are pretty safe on steemit because your reputation is high enough. If one with a lower reputation gets flagged by someone with a higher one, the reputation goes down and your posts will get greyed out and not be visible anymore. I have seen blogs destroyed by professional downvoters. I got attacked myself and have to avoid certain topics since my rep is not high enough. We now have a small window of opportunity as long as steemit is insignificant enough and does not pose a real threat to post our stuff onto the blockchain.
But in the end, it is not about information or the truth or discussion or right or wrong. If what you say is against the official narrative, you will get shut down if too many people could hear what you have to say. We live in a post-fact world. Opinion matters. 'It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.' — Henry Kissinger
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i do appreciate the problem with downvoting and reputation, yes. i had that problem early on too with a post about 911 that got wiped out by a trigger happy corporatist. in that case i was able to buy a vote from a bot to counteract the problem (bots were a relatively new thing back then). i then went on a rampage to expose the situation and my post was the first one covered by the @freezepeach account (as I recall) that is set up to counter this problem. As a result of that I met some good whales here and learned how to defend myself.
I see the main issue here being a lack of understanding of the system and also an absence of coherent teamwork among those who want to be protected. I intend to co-create educational videos soon to help people understand some core ideas that can be used to make their life here easier, though I don't have an ETA yet.
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Yup. I had a similar situation and got help from @freezepeach and @r0nd0n as well. They are great and most helpful. I also pondered the idea of creating some kind of support group. The main problem I see here is the structure of steemit. I don't know of a way to create a tutorial which would be easily visible or accessible over time for newcomers to read when they get hit. I am sure there is plenty of helpful information already out there but buried deep under millions of posts. You have to know what to look for and where. For me it was just plain luck that I came across freezepeach. I also used a whale to get my reputation up a bit just to be safe from a particular stalker. But at a certain level that can get quite expensive I suppose...Anyway, nice talking to you :)
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I'd like to ask, "is the flag mechanism helpful at all?". People who post content no one likes get unfollowed. It may feel good to flag someone who is annoying you with spam, but does it really help with spam? I'm guessing a determined bot user would just make a new bot. Isn't there another better way to do this?
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I agree with you. The potential of abuse far outweighs it's usefulness. If you don't like it, don't read it. If you disagree, write a nasty comment. If I don't want spam, I don't follow the spammer. If I am dumb enough to fall for spam, well then I am dumb. I don't need some politically correct moron to protect me from information he thinks I should not have. The only usefulness I could see would be to flag spam in the comment section, not for original posts. But I guess it would be pretty hard to change the rules. There are plenty of professional downvoters who make a pretty buck...
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I like your style a lot. There is hope that some more people like heerleeb and ura-soul come and stay on steemit. My opinion on the topic: We need brainpower and the courage to use that brain like you two do, not bots.
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If you mean, "flag spam in the comment section" of your own post then I agree with you 100%. This only because I view post by yourself as being property, and as such, common law/ principals ought to take effect.
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Which is exactly why we are banding together to create an Informationwar community where we expose the narratives of falsehood, and give people the tools they need to understand how to defend free speech/liberty/justice.
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Interesting. What exactly do you guys do? What's your strategy? How do you stay in touch? I might be interested to join.
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here is https://steemit.com/informationwar/@informationwar/about-information-war-3-3
you can also join us on Discord
https://discord.gg/EzAwQeb
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Thanks for the invitation. My name on Discord: ThisKurt. What´s yours? Can´t see HerrLeeb there...
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It is absolutely unacceptable for someone involved in the development of this free speech space to take this kind of action. If @ned isn't going to do something about it, they whole team needs to take a dive off a short peer. I won't be staying here long due to this and the reward pool abuse. There is simply no reason to be here anymore.
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Hmm... I typically only flag for abuse, and though I'm entirely 100% in this opinion, I think flagging in this regard is fine, though it obviously hurts the victim's account confidence and pride.
The flag button does say 'disagreement on rewards*, so he's abiding by the system.
The more I type though, the more complicated the grey areas get. Regarding the philosophy of flags. If you remember our one interaction long ago you'd know I'm highly against your views in general but unlike most I actually enjoy debates counter to my side, so I wouldn't even consider flagging such things.
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Sneak can be seen in another post stating clearly on this topic a specific list of criteria in which he personally thinks it is acceptable to flag and he specifically states that personal opinion differences is not one of them. The only one he states that could possibly fit is that he disagrees over rewards because the post contains lies. Since he has failed to even attempt to demonstrate how that is true, we are left to speculate.
Since the system has no enforcement process for ensuring that any guidelines regarding flagging are adhered to, there really isn't a system being applied to flagging in the sense of determining what is good/bad flagging, there are only unenforced and thus entirely voluntary words.
As far as disagreements and truth finding go - I actually aim to have zero belief, opinion and 'views' - looking instead to back up everything (or most) of what I say with replicable evidence. The challenge here is that substantial amounts of the world are convinced that what they think is true 'must' be true but when pushed they haven't actually done the necessary due dilligence research to know either way. Therefore, any minority position can find itself the target of ridicule, regardless of it's accuracy.
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Indeed, and I'm sure both of us are guilty of this as much as we hate to admit it and really it's causing some issues for the reputation of this platform movement, with a recent publication from polygon reporting about Dtube in a light that is... less than flattering - https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/7/17087668/steemit-dtube-bitchute-youtube-purge
But I'm hesitant to call it wrong, per se. Correct policing is fundamentally an issue with the philosophy of the site...
Regarding Sneak, yeah I certainly agree that those at the head of STINC need to behave with a certain, impartial manner as you said in your video, i've seen some incredibly childish exchanges on their twitter account (not sure who runs it but hopefully they've since been fired).
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Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that before. There are some odd lines in there, for sure.
I was under the impression that:
a) Dtube isn't operated by Steemit Inc. and thus it is not their legal responsibility to take down videos that infringe copyright. Steem is alleged to not be controlled by Steemit Inc. so as far as I can see there isn't a direct connection. Videos that are linked from Dtube in Steemit.com aren't embedded.
b) There is no way to remove videos from IPFS or the steem blockchain, so the only way that Steemit inc. could conform to the idea of taking down a video is by Steemit inc specifically blacklisting posts in Steemit.com - which I am not aware they do and which contradicts what Sneak has said about censorship on Steemit.
The claim that Dtube is effectively 'Youtube for conspiracy theorists' may be part of why Sneak is taking the stance here that he is, since the false claim made by the piece on Polygon is not one which he might want to have associated with the platform. If anything the claim lets us know some of the intentions behind the author at polygon (a site I had never heard of before).
From what I have seen, the author of that piece on Polygon is a prime example of what I was pointing to when I said that people are convinced that what they think is true 'Must' be true without doing any due diligence research. The quote about alex jones and david hogg is a good example since Alex Jones did NOT say that David Hogg was a crisis actor - as far as I am aware (having put a few hours into researching it), he merely said he was trained and as I recall that some of the children there are actors - WHICH IS TRUE - and one of them is on IMDB for acting! Since Alex Jones' videos were removed the mainstream media went on a rampage making claims about what he said that then couldn't be checked on youtube. As it turns out alex jones has stated that he is opening multiple court cases against the many agencies involved, which i presume may be for slander or worse.
Conspiracy is a crime that is prosecuted every day in courts - if conspiracy is 'dangerous' to talk about then police should be arrested since that's what they deal in every day. @corbettreport made a wise comment on the doublethink attitude regarding 'conspiracy theory':
According to polygon, @ned has stated that 'hate speech' is removed by flagging, so this completely negates the stance that @sneak takes by claiming that flagging 'isn't censorship'. - you can't have it both ways guys.
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I intend to make a full post in response to this link.
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He has on many occasions flagged posts based on only disagreement and nothing else.
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No one should be getting flagged here. Isnt this the whole damn point of the creation of steemit? Maybe dude should go apply at google...Im sure they can use his skills...lol
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I thought all this "decentralized" mumbo jumbo was to empower the "individual" by cutting out all the middlemen. Well, on this platform it definitely empowers SOME individuals and ironically makes them the new middlemen. It's the same game just cleverly disguised over at Steem Ponzi Headquarters.
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thats outrageous! the whole point of an alternative platform is to share alternative ideas?! ideas that might differ from the spoon fed media - state funded tripe which has corrupted our society so much! thanks for bringing this to light .
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I think you've had a bit too much to think there chris.. simmer down.. ;)
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I shared a video by The Leak Project about the dangers of vaccines about two months ago. I have read many reports and studies on this topic. No I do not believe in any form of censorship of conversation on any topic as long as the non-aggression principle is being adhered to.
https://steemit.com/life/@gurugnu/if-you-love-your-children-and-family-please-watch
Peace and Love.
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Absolutely. From a scientific perspective, Ad hominem attack is clearly a form of aggressive attack and has no place in the process - so in that sense it is Sneak who has violated NAP here.
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I truly think that these people are destroying steemit. If you don't like something or disagree with someone, then why are you reading the post? and if you do strongly disagree, you can say and explain why you disagree but to downvote is just childish and it says a lot of who they are in my mind and seriously these people should be banned from steemit.
People have the right to say what they believe.
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As I understand it, Sneak is intending to 'police' the rewards pool to attempt to stop things he disagrees with from being rewarded and from reaching the trending page. No explanation has been provided other than that he simply doesn't like the content. It is an unsophisticated and immature approach, no doubt. :/
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You are absolutely correct. Flagging without giving arguments is pure bullshit. 'Science is settled about vaccines' is not argument.
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Selfishness ruins everything. You can't mix selfish people with unselfish people and expect to get a well functioning community. Incentives and accountability can help, but I am skeptical about whether the latter alone can ever solve the problem.
IOW, for a community to function well, there must be some way to expel or "kill" people who break the moral rules of the community. The ultimate incentive is that if you don't conform to those norms, you will be eliminated.
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Almost afraid to comment, have seen that user harassing many people on this platform. Really discouraging, shouldn't he be focusing on hardfork 20?
Short-term I'm invested in Steem because it gives me something I can use and communicate with now. Long-term I'm keeping an eye on EOS because I believe in Dan's vision both from a technical perspective and political/philosophical perspective.
That was what I was initially thinking but seeing this .... from a well-known user like yourself?! It makes me doubt the future of the steem platform tbh...
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That anybody should fear to speak one's mind is testament that not all is right upon Steemit.
Is a culture of fear beneficial to anybody?
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fear is largely founded in a belief that says you don't have the power to protect self and part of that is the power to ensure free expression. it is completely logical, therefore, that this results in a sense of slight fear regarding expression, given the observations made here. having said that, the flipside is that the members of the community who have learned to respect free expression over the enforcing of their own judgements and control agendas can also learn to unite to prevent the control grid that limits humanity in so many ways outside of steemit from reaching here too.
ultimately, the whitepaper for steemit makes clear that disagreements cannot be avoided, but the aim is to ensure that they do not become so problematic that people leave the platform in high numbers. This therefore requires a degree of teamwork to ensure the will of those involved is not being over-ridden or to ensure that those who are over-ridden do indeed leave in large numbers for somewhere that is more understanding of what real balance is.
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Using your voting weight to stifle speech is sickening and sad.
People aught to be able to indulge in any form of speech without worrying of reprisal from people who disagree.
With that said, my uncle, an emergency room doctor is anti vaxx.
I trust my uncle more than the establishment and their propaganda machine.
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Flagging is ok if you give reasonable argument, which he don't give. Insults @sneak is making say lot about him.
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He gave me a $30 flag on a comment I made on somebody else's post regarding weather manipulation. My comment was worth $2 at most. Despicable way for a CTO to act on this platform. Couldn't even be bothered to offer an explanation.
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@gmuxx a 30$ flag ? Is he still working at Steemit inc ??? How is that possible that people from Steemit flag their bloggers ???????
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I agree - although he states he is not the CTO - I don't think there is an actual CTO.
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From my perspective science is never and should never be settled. Personally, I prefer to carry out my own research and make up my own mind. Modern science is built atop the dogmas that preceeded it, equally I have a feeling that the current cutting edge of our scientific consensus will one day be viewed as akin to medieval cures for gout.
“Take an owl and pluck it clean and open it, clean and salt it. Put it in a new pot and cover it with a stone and put it in an oven and let it stand till it be burnt. And then stamp [pound] it with boar’s grease and anoint the gout therewith.”
The mutual exchange of opposing ideas is what drives us forward as a species and it is how we learn.
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Absolutely - to quote my favourite medical professional "Medicine is still in the dark ages".
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Hey, thanks for that! My owl hasn't squawked about his gout for like a whole five hours now, but ahhh, how do I get him to move again, how long does it usually take?
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I don't think shutting down the conversation should be allowed. I however think that flagging has a certain way of obtaining the opposite result in reality. It draws attention often times because people want to know why it was flagged.
I think something drastic needs to change. A user agreement or constitution that will bind us into not being horrible humans. Or paying consequences for it. Some type of balance between the voting power of the top 100 accounts and the rest of us.
I think downvoting needs to be there in extreme cases still, and it sucks that your post would be downvoted because of a disagreement of social views. That isn't what downvoting is for.
I also question the official narrative on vaccinations myself. I encourage open discussions in all things.. and downvoting without first attempting an open discussion is not fair or balanced, to me at least.
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I can understand the desire to have the community police itself - it solves numerous problems, from not needing a support team to manage the huge task, through to absolving the corporation of having to deal with the grief of it all. My initial suggestion, in the spirit of the project, was to expand steemit to have an area where all flagged posts are visible to whoever wants to look - ensuring that the community can gain visibility of flagging activity, rather than having smaller users with no voice get crushed with no repercussions. I will be creating this at steemocean.com in the near future as a starting point.
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Perfect idea, like at the top right next to trending, a flagged category! Kill the dithering, and post hiding. Adding a flagged icon in the feed on the post when something gets flagged, and put it in the flagged category. People could go to that section and manually curate.
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Yes, though I don't expect that the post hiding will end, it will at least give us a way of monitoring what is going on.
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Just like a positive marker (clicker) isolates a moment in time, making it memorable for the cookie that comes after it, a negative marker (NO!) makes a moment memorable.
Jumping on a behavior with a negative marker,"NO!" and hammering it makes it EXTREMELY memorable. That is the point of the timely punishment methodology; that it be remembered.
Skillful handlers use a bad enough punishment to ensure that it never happens again. Having that punishment be overwhelming is a key element of wielding punishment as a behavioral modification tool. In addition to the overwhelming nature of the punisher, you have to have some kind of recovery behavior; something that is correct and good, so you can give your cookies to reinforce good behavior.
If you don't have both of those attributes, all you are doing is habituating the critter to low level abuse and brutalization; don't sweat it though, that's life... it's unfair.
This whole discussion about Whales punishing people for the good of the currency or community is asinine. A bunch of people who have no clue how the mechanics of behavior mod work arguing endlessly about how their wielding of power is really about shaping the behavior of the platform. Ego and defense of money making method; that's what it seems like to me.
The people actively involved in these flagging wars, especially the more powerful users, have lost focus and perspective. And that's what happens when you wield punishment poorly; you lose focus and perspective. Pretty soon you're no longer doing any cool shit because you're too busy punishing your dog.
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Downvotes should exist, but you should give explanation why you disagree. There we come to slippery territory. 'Science is settled about vaccines'...Sentence like this to someone can be argument, to others not. To me this sentence is not argument what so ever.
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I have made my views on all subjects relevant to this perfectly clear in the past - but the salient points:
It is regretable that anybody would use a flag as a means of attacking a position. Such is little different from individuals being forced to convert religion at the point of a sword.
The only valid way to challenge a view is to pose a superior view - or at least a similarly valid if differing view.
It is my hope that all users of Steemit will eventually come around to a more evolved way of conducting oneself in the event of disagreement...
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All the people should have the opportunity to express themselves freely, without fear than others who disagree and have more power do what you said.
cheers
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It would be good that @sneak reply with arguments and not with sentences like this:
Dear @sneak, you didn't provide one argument. Only thing you provide are insults. Any mature adult don't talk like you. If you disagree with anti-vaxx post, you should give argument why you disagree. Sentences like 'vaccine fears are completely debunked' don't give one argument.
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Personally I don't think anyone should downvote because they disagree!
But then this community if free and I guess he has the write to do that. This in my opinion is wrong! Flagging is a controversial aspect of @Steemit, in my opinion if something offends you don't read it or associate it. I guess we have a long way to go until we achieve a free place to conduct things. Flagging should be stopped and people should vote with their feet as it were; don't read what you don't like if you are that adverse to informing yourself of other possibilities. It shows a lot about his character and he clearly does not understand freedom! 💯🐒
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Well, sneak actually agrees with you about not flagging due to disagreement.. until, well, he get's triggered maybe?
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We should just scrap flagging as it clearly gives power going against most peoples on here principles. Let the upvotes do the talking 💯🐒
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Well it was fun while it lasted .... see yo all . ;-)
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The flagging debacle could actually end up destroying this platform. It seems childish to me. I've always ignored the flag feature, never used it. Surely, the original point of the platform is for people to be able to freely express themselves without censorship. So no, I would never shut down anyone's views, we all know where that leads.
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i'm sure it could be implemented more intelligently, at least. i do like the idea of the community regulating itself by agreement, but this is not really an agreement so much as a brute force attempt at control to the limits available.
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Thanks for raising this. I have no firm position on vaccinations either way; but part of what brings me here is the lure of hearing the best of the available arguments from all sides.
If he's downvoting you with his personal stake, then that's his to do with as he pleases. If he's using the business' stake to censor content; that's a problem.
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Absolutely, to silence comments of a particular kind is to say to the entire community "I know better than you and I will decide what you see".. In a sense. :/
He is voting with delegated SP, but I don't know who it's from - maybe @ned ?
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http://www.steemreports.com/delegation-info
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Ah, that's a helpful site, thanks. So the delegation is from an anonymous account, fair enough!
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btw, I was informed that you once worked at Steemit Inc but now work at EOS.. If that's correct, I'm wondering if that frees you up to vote for steem witnesses now? I'm about to go on a vote gathering campaign for my witness and your SP would give me a massive help with that. I understand if you prefer not to, no problem.
So much drama and politics - maybe it's better for us all to just go live in treehouses again. :)
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You've just described curation. That's what curation is :)
If Steemit INC is offering an uncensored social media, and then downvoting specific content, that's an issue; but if sneak is using his personal stake to downvote; that's entirely his call.
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curation, for me, is about finding good content that you think others will enjoy or find useful. the flipside to that, for me, does not extend to 'hiding content you think others will not like' - which is part of why sneak himself said that it is not a valid use of flagging to flag posts that you just don't like and also part of why there isn't a negative curation reward for 'flagging posts early that many other people also then flag'.
in reality, the issue of the contractual status of sneak as an employee is secondary to his ability to influence decisions and determine the future of the platform.
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Very good video, we need to shine a big spotlight on this kind of thing when it happens to non-spam content.
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Guys from Steemit Inc should start to take care of their gem blogger and not flag them to make them leave.
I am really sorry for you.
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Hm, that is heavy! And really over-reactive from my perspective.
I mean, he probably flagged others as well on that topic and he is very well aware that his flagging is lingering heavily on others' account.
So from my perspective quite irresponsible and egoic to impose such draconic "punishment" over other users. After all, it is not a personal attack against him.
If we flagged anything we don't agree on, Steemit would nosedive quickly.
Thanks for sharing, came quite as a surprise such message!
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I agree, yes, he has been flagging a variety of accounts - with a similar behaviour pattern involved.
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Disturbing, but not surprising. I've seen the same account do this to other anti-vaccine posts. It seems that's the way of the world now; if you can't make a coherent argument against it, just shout it down, flag it or ban it. It seems free speech left along with the 20th Century.
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He don't talk arguments and gives only insults. That say a lot about him. If we wanted to set up debate with him, I'm sure @sneak will run other way.
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I think this is a serious issue in our society and it is just now appearing on the platform. If we cannot freely debate on issues we will never learn anything new or grow. I am sorry that the powers are trying to silence you. We need to stand united for freedom of thought and speech because today it happened to you, tomorrow it might happen to someone else and that's how tyranny starts.
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Interesting, that is the same dude who was going around down voting many articles about gun rights, seems like an angry progressive troll with way too much power. I am sorry he got you, please accept my one cent up vote. What should be done about folks like that?
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Simply disagreeing does not appear to fall under criteria for flagging presented in the pop up screen when flagging is chosen.
Where does a boy-o like him get his stake, anyway?
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He himself said on another thread that disagreeing is not grounds for downvoting.
He has received delegations, though I don't know where from.
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A real concern for me is the @freedom account which seems to be a Witness Maker. It is not that @freedom and myself disagree all that much as to good top 20 witness choices. My concern is that a witness who has @freedom's support told me it is a secondary account of @ned. In and of itself that is not outragious as @ned has a legitimate stake; yet judging from the actual @ned account you would be led to believe he is staying neutral for conflict of reason reasons; which in my opinion he and all of STINC should be doing.
If anyone can share any proof definitively linking @ned to the @freedom account, it would be appreciated if you could share it.
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I am pretty sure there is meant to be an official policy that Steemit Inc. has no say in the witness selection. I don't have any evidence that freedom is ned - someone else who is a witness claims he has proof it is actually dan ;)
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Well that would put a whole different spin on things. 😎
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Good post. Free speech is essential, and we can quickly gain new perspectives and rational views.
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Some people can't admire that what they are doing may not be right. When it comes to big fish it's look like rule. what they are saying it should be right. I think this is the reason of this quote has created, that "don't argue with moron"
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I'm a complete noob here (today is my first day), but I just read through this post and a lot of the comments. I find the whole censorship situation (via flagging if I understand correctly) to be quite surprising and discouraging. Glad to be here though as it still seems better than the situation on YouTube. Maybe... In any case, thanks so much for your time and efforts involved in taking steps towards bringing this whole situation to light.
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Well this is BS this goes against what I thought steemit was about.
its not even a controversial subject!
why are steemit censoring very important content?
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Free speech much?
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I think, you made a post with a topic important ... and your writing experience is very good ...... waiting for your next post ...... Thanks
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Congratulations! This post has been upvoted from the communal account, @minnowsupport, by ura soul from the Minnow Support Project. It's a witness project run by aggroed, ausbitbank, teamsteem, theprophet0, someguy123, neoxian, followbtcnews, and netuoso. The goal is to help Steemit grow by supporting Minnows. Please find us at the Peace, Abundance, and Liberty Network (PALnet) Discord Channel. It's a completely public and open space to all members of the Steemit community who voluntarily choose to be there.
If you would like to delegate to the Minnow Support Project you can do so by clicking on the following links: 50SP, 100SP, 250SP, 500SP, 1000SP, 5000SP.
Be sure to leave at least 50SP undelegated on your account.
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Curated for #informationwar (by @truthforce)
Relevance: Say No To Censorship
Our Purpose
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Video won't play for me, after many attempts.
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I'm having problems in firefox too. Are you using firefox? It plays fine for me in the chromium browser.
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If stinc wanted free speech they never would have created @curie to promote corporate speak.
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So calm, so rational.
I don't understand this platform enough to offer a solution to potential censorship.
IPFS will store your files indefinitely, so there is that.
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I don't really want to comment around the vaccination and the effects of that, as I have never experienced any effects of that, good or bad. The only thing that I can say is that no personal opinion should be restricted. I am a promoter of freedom and I really hate liberty abuse of any king. Therefore I think that flagging on this platform should be somehow regulated because at the moment any abuse can be done here if the flager has a really high power. Anything related to flagging is strictly limited by the power and that is not ok. There should be some king of rules about that.
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Want to remind everyone who is pissed at Steemit censorship that we are doing a meme contest with 25 SBD up for grabs for the best submissions about flagging and censoring on this platform. Runs 'til Saturday 17th of March, come post your pain and hilight it for the community.
https://steemit.com/contest/@thoughts-in-time/opening-salvo-the-great-meme-for-steem-war-of-2018-begins-now-usd25-00-sbd
Excellent video man, I applaud your willingness to draw attention to this situation. @sneak's rampage is getting out of hand, and more people need to see it.
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wel i have nothing to say but your post is great
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I really can't believe a witness would do this to your post. The fact that he didn't accept your challenge to present his side of the vaccine debate shows his poor ability to debate and be objective.
I've been thinking of starting a series on the The Truth About Vaccines 7 part series, perhaps summarizing the key points of each (2 hour long) video. I think this would make for excellent (and much needed) information about the truth and real agendas behind vaccines. It would take me a hell of a lot of time to produce; but am thinking of doing it nonetheless.
Especially since I've recently become a father and have decided not to vaccinate my baby (although he already received the Hep vaccine).
By the way, I just found out you are a witness and voted for you as such since I very much like your work and the way you presented yourself in that related post.
Steemit needs more honest and caring souls like you; so I would like to take this opportunity to personally thank you for your dedication and spirit.
Best,
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Sorry about that, he may have own point for disagree with you
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I suggest watching the talk by micro biologist Trevor Gunn to learn why what you have said here is illogical.
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