I just finished watching a wonderful video by @meno who is one of my favorite authors here on Steem blockchain. Before continuing with my post, please check his video out here. My post will make a lot more sense after watching, as it's a follow-up to his video.
Quality is a subjective word and concept. You'll see it used a lot here on Steem though. You'll also see opposing words used to describe what's considered content lacking quality. And it doesn't feel great when someone disregards your feedback, or worse, downvotes you.
I'm apprehensive when teaching, although I'm quite talented at it (in person). I'm just bad at writing so it's something I've tried to invest in learning myself. I'm letting you know in advance, I don't consider myself your authority figure nor do I believe there are rules on the Steem blockchain. I'm also not an authority on this subject. I personally go as far as to reject the Etiquette Guide which I feel is outdated. Hey, call me a rebel.
So here I'm going to speak on what I've experienced and observed is rewarding commentary. I think the focus is best rewarding commentary because otherwise, we're wasting our time, alotted bandwidth, and possibly the vote we've given a piece of content. This on top of wasting the authors time as well.
Finding Content To Comment On
I've ignored the regular advice about commenting on top posts, hot posts, and big accounts. It's not bad advice. Sure, you could get some upvotes. But my first suggestion is COMMENT ON YOUR FRIEND'S POSTS. Some will find this to be circle jerky, but so what. There's a method to the madness. Your friends will engage you and probably upvote you. And if you don't have any friends, go out there and make some. It starts with following people you like, and just being present for them. Show up — a lot. Over time they will realize they cannot avoid your familiar face (or avatar in this case.)
Some users are great at ignoring people who comment. Whenever you're looking for people to follow, take a look at their blog and comments. Do they respond to other people? Do they upvote their commentators? Or is it a lot of one-sided conversation? If they post and run, save your time. Your relationship on Steem with them will be unrequited.
A quality Steem relationship starts with starting a real relationship in the first place. If the user you want to comment on doesn't seem to understand that relationships go both ways, you're going to have a hard time getting or keeping their attention.
If they have very few comments to begin with, there's nothing wrong with testing the waters. Maybe the reason they don't respond much is they have little to respond to and have just gotten used to not expecting comments. It can't hurt to try to jump-start dialog.
If you've established they're an engaging author then note their tone in their comments. Are they defensive in every response, or generally easy going? There's little point in offering your opinion to someone who will not VALUE your feedback (even if your feedback is a disagreement.) People WILL disagree with you, and you will disagree with them. Debate is a healthy thing. However, you will always win more attention when you agree with others, so choose your battles wisely.
Keep in mind, I'm not advising that you just go around agreeing with things that you don't agree with. Rather, find things you genuinely agree with if you decide to go this route. A quick start is using the search feature and sorting the results by most recent. Another helpful source is using the tag feature.
It's a smart idea to follow authors that consistently put out content you like. That way you don't have to hunt for new content every day. It will show up in your feed. I like to use @ginabot to follow authors I vote on regularly. And I keep my followers on Steemit a broad group (3x my followees) of Steemians in a variety of categories: from Bots to Witnesses to Authors.
Finding content that personally resonates with you is KEY to solid commentary. If you have found something that really moves you, speaking about it will come so easy that you'll have to worry if your comment is in fact too long — lol — not too short.
For example, @meno's video moved me to write this post. I've not yet commented on it though, because I have too much to say. So I'm saying it here, and I will comment on his post afterward.
The All Important Upvote
When you're new (like me) you have a limited number of upvotes you can share every day. So you will find that you can't upvote everything. That's okay. That doesn't mean you need to wait to leave a comment. Some will find it rude if you don't, because that's the paradigm of the original Steemit.com. But Steem blockchain is evolving with many new apps being built on it. And things are changing. It's okay to grow with it and not conform. Yes, I say so. Others will likely disagree with me. But I reckon those who will have never upvoted me anyway and you can't make everyone happy. Make yourself happy.
Upvote when you want to. If a piece of content deserves more money, upvote it.
Upvote when you have the power to. If you don't, leave your comment and return to upvote later.
@remind.bot is a wonderful tool that will remind you to come back and upvote a post when you've recharged.
When you are NEW, you can only do what you can. Do NOT feel too guilty. I OFTEN feel apprehensive due to my low voting power but I battle that apprehension and it works out better. Test this and see if it works for you too.
Time To Comment!
- Author is Engaging — check!
- Upvoted (or not) — check!
- Content is genuinely moving — check!
Time to leave your comment. If you don't know how to leave a comment, you would be well to login to the Steemit.com interface because it makes commenting easier. Busy.org is another comment friendly interface.
How To Use The Comment Feature on Steemit.com by @steempowerwhale is a great Tutorial on how to use the comment feature on Steemit.com
So you got this far? But what should you say?
How Not To Spam
I'm not a fan of the word should. I really try not to use that word because it's a bully word. We all slip up sometimes (me too.) I can't tell you what you should write. But I can give you a process to consider before writing.
While your comments may not be spam you are well to understand what others consider to be spam. This is because if they mistake your comments as spamming, you've wasted your time and bandwidth. And you could get flagged.
If you don't know a person or they do not know you, and you've not had significant back-and-forth communication; then a 1 sentence comment could be viewed as spam.
If you have pasted your comment or have written many similar comments previously, your comment could be viewed as spam.
If your comment is mostly focused on yourself and getting them to do something (like follow, upvote, join your group, etc.), with few exceptions, this could be viewed as spam.
If you drop your links without being invited to, or if it is not relevant to the conversation; this could be viewed as spam.
But wait. My English is horrible!
It is better to comment in your own language, at full length, than to leave a shorter — less meaningful — comment in English.
Responding
If you've read the whole article, watched the video, listened to the audio, view the photo, or otherwise absorb the content of the post, it's likely you already have a comment brewing inside of you. If your comment seems stuck, here are some questions you can ask yourself.
Can you relate to the content or empathize with it?
Can you offer sympathy, empathy, understanding, or support?
What do you appreciate most about the content and/or the author?
Do you agree or disagree with the content?
Do you like or dislike the content?
Can you add additional information to what is being conveyed in the content?
How does the content make you feel?
What stood out the most within the content?
How did you find the content?
Have you THANKED them for moving you with their content?
General Tips and Strategy
Here are some sentences prompts that may warm up your throat Chakra...
- I appreciate this because _______
- This post made me feel like _______
- Thanks for your post. However, I disagree about _______
- Wow. I found this amazing because _______
- I totally agree because _______
- My favorite thing about your post is _______
- I was just reading about this topic! I learned _______
- I feel _______ about this because _______
- This photograph is _______ to me because _______
- I really like the _______ in your music because _______
When you are stuck, add the word because or feel and let them lead you.
@researchgeek made an excellent contribution in the comments. Asking a question is also a way to start an engaging conversation.
Comment Length
1 sentence or less is okay when you have ongoing back-and-forth communication with someone.
2-3 sentences is a concise and thoughtful communication.
3+ sentences is generally considered meaningful.
These are just observations, not rules.
Validation
Validation is a sensitive topic because nobody wants to feel like they're being intentionally manipulated. However, it's important to understand that your actions and lack of actions prompt other people's behavior. And if you're validating or invalidating people incorrectly, you may not get the results you desire.
You will never know how someone will react or respond to you. Everyone has their own triggers and what may cause them to become up in arms. You can't possibly prepare for it. There are people who will always respond defensively. There are people who don't like compliments and people who do. There are people who don't like critique and those who want it. There are people who don't like contributions and those who do. So it's a good idea to try to get to know an author before commenting on their content. But even when you do, you will sometimes get surprised anyway. That's okay. Try not to take it personal in a negative way.
You know how awful it feels to be ignored. Therefore, if an author has upvoted your comment or responded to you, it's important not to ignore them. The only thing worse than being ignored is going out of your way to respond to a response and be ignored on your own page. That feels like you are just on a mission to comment and don't really mean what you said. Now of course, you can't keep the conversation going forever. And often there is not much more to say. But making a gestural upvote or leaving another comment below their response validates that you appreciate their acknowledgment of your comment. And it reinforces the likelihood they will give a damn about you next time you leave a comment. The longer you are here, the more you will discover it's just IMPOSSIBLE to keep up with all your commentary. It's well to just be mindful of doing your best to validate those authors that you are most interested in a relationship with.
If you feel disrespected, ignore it. There are times that you will want to reassert your boundaries, argue, debate or feel provoked into a side conversation that has nothing to do with your original remark. This often happens due to a misunderstanding. Unless you're truly interested in ironing it out, just leave it alone and let it go. When you give attention to something, you give it value. So you may want to think twice about crusading, validating what you don't want, and giving things your energy that don't deserve it.
There is NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE (and many will disagree with this) if YOU ARE NOT SORRY. There is no use in patronizing apologies. And nobody is above you here where you have to pander to them no matter how big their account is. Nobody is on a pedestal here. In fact, if you crawl beneath others, you are positioning YOURSELF there. Your opinion has value to YOU and others, even if the author you respond to doesn't think so — someone else may. There is no need to feel intimidated to conform to them, even if it's their blog — it is a public forum. Apologies are a strong form of self-degrading validation. So when you apologize, make sure you are hurting yourself for a good reason — such as when you're genuinely imposing, wrong, or rude. Likewise, be careful to not expect apologies. Nobody owes you that.
When everything goes as intended, CELEBRATE! You love the content, promote it. Resteem it or comment at length. Upvote if you can. Praise it. Go link it on other social media. Shill shill shill. If you want more of something, validate validate validate. Post about it. Tell your friends. Carry a sign. Be a fan. Follow. Heart it. Bot it. Fan the fire. Because the way to really get more of what you want is to LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU WANT — not by TELLING people, "I want more of this." (Although that works too!) But by PRAISING, CELEBRATING, and ENGAGING with what you love. THAT is how you make an impact.
When you validate what you want more of, and ignore what you want less of, change happens.
When you fight what you don't want, while ignoring what you do want, you will always be fighting.
Sincerity Score
If you are using the @steem-plus extension for your browser, you may notice it will label some accounts Human, Bot, or Spammer. These are not Steem rankings. These are rankings of a third party service called Steem Sincerity geared toward helping with the identity of spammers and phishers. As annoying sometimes as bots and scores can be (trust me, I engage with these services often to offer them feedback) please consider that Steem blockchain is constantly being attacked by malicious accounts trying to put viruses and spyware on people's devices.
When you have a free and open network like a blockchain, sometimes destructive code gets unleashed thereon. To protect the users of the platforms (some uneducated about viruses and spyware); bots and services (@abusereports, @transparencybot, @pleasestop, @grammarnazi, and more) are scanning the blockchain looking for accounts and behavior that look strange or sketchy.
It can be VERY annoying to be the target of these automated services and misunderstood by them. But remember, they're robots not people. Sometimes when you're catching crabs, a fish ends up in the trap. If this ever happens to you, try giving some valuable feedback instead of downvoting them. Look at it as an opportunity to practice your commenting skills! :)
If you are using the @steem-plus plugin, it's literally 1 click to mark your commentators as human if they are human. Please do your part. Likewise, if you are a commentator, it take 1 click to mark someone else human. This will help services in the future be less annoying to humans. And it will help them catch more viruses and malicious code.
Final Words
This may be an unwelcomed revelation, but the Steem blockchain has NO RULES. So, technically, you can spam all you want. You can leave terrible comments. And nobody can stop you. And frankly, if that's what you want to do — I sure as hell won't stop you. My interpretation of the blockchain is, if you're human; whatever text you drop on the blochain is your prerogative.
But — and this is a big butt but — automated phishing and malicious code is not human. It's rouge. And it has no natural rights. So I also feel that anti-spam crusades sort of have a right to try to get rid of harmful code on the blockchain. And unfortunately, attackers usually pretend to be people while building up a powerful account to launch their attack. That's where mistaking you as a spammer or bot might be detrimental.
That means it would be in YOUR favor to let everyone know you're a real PERSON. That doesn't mean you have to show your face here, but especially in the absence thereof, it is very helpful to YOU to show yourself to be trust worthy. In time, you may be whitelisted by services. And you can always do your part by leaving great comments and by validating great comments and content overall.
Practice Makes Perfect
If you found this article valuable, practice your commentary by leaving a comment below.
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I love how your post basically boils down to a wonderful guide on how to handle free speech. Free speech in an overly individualistic era often degrades into a "right to insult". On the other hand, freely speaking your mind without the intent to insult can still sometimes result in insulting people who are frozen rigid in a certain worldview or idealism, or have customs you are unfamiliar with; intent has a lot to do with communication between truly free people, as well as understanding and empathy.
And that's what I see in your words. The blockchain is free. Steemians are free. And it's up to us to shape that freedom. Not with rules, as you say, but with guidelines (rules and laws don't work on sentient beings anyway) as to how healthy debate can lead to better and deeper understanding of each other and each other's opinions.
But... the most valuable gems in this depositry of wisdom are: "commentatosators" and "this is a big butt but"! This makes you a great teacher. You're just you and don't teach "with a mission to convert".
Thanks for a great post and some good Steem - and life-lessons! <3 :-)
(and for translating! but that I'll repeat on the other side... It's just so sweet of you to do, that it couldn't hurt repeating. twice. in two different posts. it's that sweet...)
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Thanks for your point of view. I don't even like guidelines myself — yuck. I'm not going to tell anyone they're wrong for what they do. I don't even care if people use these ideas when commenting on my blog! Ha-ha. Free speech is a big deal to me. But I think for those who feel they're not getting the results they desire, or have gotten flagged by bots, they might want some detailed guidence to get better results for themselves — that's all.
Commentatosators was going to be commentator-gators, but I just edited that out. The big butt remains. Lololol 😆
Wink, in re: translation. ♥️
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Hey Omi,
a cat has secretly climbed on your keyboard and @grammarnazi is sleeping,
for this typographical error still remained?
Good night! ;)
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P.s.: there are too much "too" in
Ciao, darling... thanks for your great thoughts and suggestions! ;)
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Thank you sweet @amico!
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😆😂If you notice any spelling or grammar mistakes, please correct me lol. Thanks!
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LOL !
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You already know I need help around here. Ha-ha. No shame in my plea for grammar and spelling help. I really need to find a good program to help me with this.
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I love you, sister!
So, do you prefer a good program to a good proofreader amico?
Check that "af" in your comment, baby! ;)
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That "af" is a an American English acronym for "as fuck" ha-ha-ha. Similar to saying Lol for Laugh Out Loud. ;)
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I've always said that you Americans use too many acronyms, ahahahhahh!
Thank you, I learned a new one! ;)
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You should give Grammar Girl a try. She has a podcast and a few books. I often consult my grammar book, even if I know most grammar rules pretty well, I still get confused sometimes. The one I have is called "The Ultimate Writing Guide for Students" by Grammar Girl. It has everything and little quick tips and fun ways to remember the rules. And she makes the distinction between American and British grammar. Her website is called Quick and Dirty Tips. Hope this helps ;)
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Very interesting, I'll subscribe the grammar-girl podcast.
Thank you, @binkyprod!
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Thank you @Blinkyprod
I will have a look at it.
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It's absolutely fine, probably in the top God know's how small a percentile as far as spelling and grammar go. BUT - and though we're in different time zones so it mightn't work - if ever you need anything quickly proofing (if only for what in the trade we call literals) shoot it to me ([email protected]) and I'd be happy to do it. Rest assured that your "awkward af" etc would be left untouched.
Great post, best I've seen on the subject. I'm going to paste it into Word for future reference, which is what I like to do with choice Steemit and indeed any lore. One thought I had, apart from that you might consider writing your own Etiquette Guide at some point, is that people could think about responding to replies as well posts. It's not so easy to get an actual group discussion going, I guess, but when people chip in on others' discussions it can sometimes make for a rich broth.
I take to heart your advice about commenting on posts of friends or people you've already had some back and forth with, given what they are posting on is by definition likely to be of real (rather than pretended) interest. It feels right to me, more natural than scouring New, Hot and Trending for stuff to comment on, which can feel contrived and even icky.
(Serious offer about the proofing btw. If you want a second eye on something you want to be right, and I happen to be awake and at my desk, it would be my pleasure to provide it. If I can't I'll just say so, nothing lost. If I can, it will be rapid-fire.)
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Thank you for the offer. I really appreciate that. I may take you up on it someday. I'm in UTC-4 although I'm generally on a reverse schedule. My largest ecom suppliers are in Asia. So I'm only for a few hours during American business hours, and a few hours during Hong Kong business hours. :)
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So four hours behind my time, as understand it: not like it's 12. Just to be clear, I'm not talking about a transaction. If you write your autobiography, which you definitely should, that would be another matter. But if it's a small piece of work you just want checking, especially if just for typos and / or minimal editing, don't even hesitate - consider it done (time thing allowing, of course). So make a note of that email address.
Retweeted this to my millions of Twitter followers. Actually 70-odd, almost none on Steemit, but it's the thought that counts, I believe.
Have a great weekend now. :o)
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This one was a long read and yet SO MUCH VALUE!!
Thank you for putting this one together Omi, I feel we old and new can all do with the reminder and guidance. And look at all this incredible engagement in the comments! Now that's a true sign of value, getting that whale size engagement.
Keep it up Sis, upped and resteemed. <3
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@Omitaylor I LOVE that you have so carefully, and so methodically, prepared this post. It matters. The way we comment matters, as it reflects the relationship we have with, and our attitude towards, the writer. I always gotta laugh at the grammarnazis though... you seem to have quite a few following you. :) Solid & positive work, sister. :)
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This is a great post where you break down various things in order to leave good quality comments.
So many redfishes and minnows often go after whales and dolphins and neglecting those in their SP range because their upvote value is not as big.
Nuts to that I say and follow, upvote and comment on people who you find interesting.
There are times that I do comment one liners especially if I can't add a lot but most of my comments are about 2-3 sentences because I want to give respect and feedback on how a post affected me, made me thing and in most cases inspired me to write or do something.
It is those that we are most familiar with that it gets easier to make comments on their post because you have established deep human connections.
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@oneazania experimented with this very subject within the thread of these comments actually, and I agree — when we have establish connection (and depending on the depth of the connection) — the dynamic changes.
Some people just KNOW us as well. They NOW that the ONE heart emoji is saying WAY more than it looks. Whereas if a stranger just put a smiley emoji, it would be like, "MmmmKaaaay" hahaha
This is really more geared to the newer users who are experiencing troubles not getting the results they desire. There's no one way nor is there any one set of results we are all looking for.
Thanks for the support. I'm hoping this thread was read by a few redfish and they find some tips to help them not get discouraged.
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Indeed what May work for one person May not work for another. But at least by having a framework it would surely help Minnows and Redfishes.
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You forgot to mention something under ‘Responding’: what if comments are brewing in your head after every new pharagraph, lol.
I’ll put all my thoughts together and turn them into one sentence: what a brilliant article. I’ll be definitely celebrating it by sharing it. Very well done!!
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That nifty
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code would probably fall under a formatting post. But yeah, good question.Thanks. I know you know however, this is just sharing observation and experience; not a guide. Lol.
/Insert Standard Not Financial Advice Disclaimer/
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‘Sharing observation and experience’, but in a very well-written way 😉
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And thank you for sharing ♥️
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I try my best, I think I have a consistent fee, a feed I understand to comment and feel useful, sizeable not to discard people, and I try to read, watch, listen what I comment. Follow no rules, sometimes it is short, sometimes a minipost reply haha but try to make sure I have read. I like feedback and I can tell spams from opinions. So try to be grateful and do my part. Btw agree meno newbie tips are super useful also to refresh
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Thanks for writing this up, I'm going to include it in my recommendations to people on writing comments.
Regarding upvoting, one of the glorious things about being a plankton like myself is that there's essentially no monetary reward with my vote, so I don't really have to worry about my VP and such. However, I have started to worry a little bit anyway, so it was nice to find out about @remind.bot.
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Thank you for the write up. Extremely busy today but I will have a look at your post this evening. :)
I also love remind.bot :)
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It would be rewarding if more people acted on at least a few of your recommendations.
But alas, that would take proactivity, no?
BTW, there are a few misspellings...
Namaste, JaiChai
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What's misspelled? I'm a crappy writer, lol. That's one of my missions on Steemit; to learn to write better.
Namaste :)
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I see u doing big things . I’m tryna get like u when I grow up.
Question how do you get the green links WITHOUT the arrows next to them. You on some next level shit
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Relative links and links on the same domain have no arrow. I missed a few. ;)
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yea i still don't understand
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oh no wait i see. thanx
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I upvoted your contribution because to my mind your post is at least 37 SBD worth and should receive 132 votes. It's now up to the lovely Steemit community to make this come true.
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My friend @omitaylor how are you? I've been gone for quite a bit, when I went back to steemit you are one of the first accounts I look back. You are a superstar now I can tell. This is another great help for newbies and minnows like me. Keep it up! I'll see you around.
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Doing well thank you. I look forward to you posting again. :)
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You're a rebel. 🤘
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Sometimes LOL! Thanks @novacadian haha <3
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You raise some really good points. I find the same that commenting on posts from your own feed is a good place to start. Most people sooner or later will start to engage with you and upvote your content.
I tend to stick to a relatively small group that I follow who post content I am acutally interested and have an opinion about, as it makes it easier to make genuine comments.
I tend to shyh away from commenting if I disagree with someones post, but maybe I shouldnt it could be a good way to generate more discussion.
My golden rule is that if I enjoyed the content but have nothing more to add or a new angle then I just upvote the post and move on rather than leaving short irrelevant comments.
Many Steeimans can learn from this post so I have resteemed it :)
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Some people are more sensitive than others about disagreement. Only you can decide if the possible benefits outweigh the risks for a particular engagement. Thanks for resteeming. 😀
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Yeah it can be a bit of a touchy subject that not everyone will agree on.
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Whao! Epic length post there, but some good advice in it. I particularly agree with regards to upvotes. You can't upvote everything, and particularly when your vote is of "dust" value, then being selective as to what to vote on is important to make sure you're not wasting it.
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It's more important than ever as the minnow base is growing exponentially. Once upon a time, when the blockchain was the database to a sole website, and the price of Steem was such that votes were far more significant and powering up was fast-and-furious; I'm guessing voting everything and anything was conditioned as part of the community culture.
It's really not possible to keep up with that now that conditions have changed and continue to in the present direction.
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Even trying to rebuild your VP after having voted for a few pieces in a short space of time seems to take forever, or maybe it's just that I keep finding things that I think deserve a little extra sprinkle of dust. I may even need to stay away for a day or two to get back to 100% haha
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The dust vote really wasn't popular knowledge until just a month or go or so. I also wasted my votes. Still, some people do find feedback to be valuable — as valuable as money. When you find people like that, they're keepers. I keep them too. Although the upvotes are always a blessing for sure.
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From a personal standpoint, the upvotes are a nice recognition (especially if they come with some value attached), but a brief comment to me is just as good, if not better. Acknowledgement and engagement, for me, is important as it keeps me motivated to stick with the slow growth of my account toward the point where my vote has a monetary value.
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Same here. I think HF20 is removing the dust vote. You'll need a certain amount of SP to have financial value, but once you do- it will always count.
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Just found something you might like @sparkesy43
Check out https://steemit.com/@dustsweeper
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Thanks @omitaylor. I'm all over that one and have already received a few upvotes from the dustsweeper.
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I don't even know how I "should" comment on this now that I have so much additional knowledge about commenting! But this was definitely helpful, especially the questions you can ask yourself before commenting. Sometimes all I want to say about something is that I really liked it, but then I'm worried it could seem like spam because its so short. So I have to add something even though there's really not much to say. Regardless, thanks for this informative post!!
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Nothing to worry about and I'm sure if you're happy with the results you get from your commentary, whatever they may be, that's all that matters. I'm hoping more to address those who are experiencing frustrations, or who've already been flagged, or who are shy or don't know where to start commenting. Perhaps I should have been clearer about that? I appreciate that you've gained something from it though. I never personally felt concerned about being flagged. And I make short comments too depending on who I'm writing too. I think the bots are getting smarter too, especially as people offer their owners real feedback.
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You highlighted some great point in this post which I agree with. I don't like the spam comments. If I get a comment which has less than 10 words, I am tempted not to reply, or if I do I won't say more than "Thank you" or "Thanks for stopping by!". What I find offensive are the comments: "I up voted you, I count on your support!"or "I follow you, you follow me."
I don't mind if I see people writing in English and making mistakes. At least they are trying their best to use a foreign language. But when they ask for up votes, I don't find them worthy of my time.
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Thanks for your feedback about what makes you avoid a comment. I feel it would be really helpful if more people communicated what's turning them off in this respect. I'm very liberal about comments and it sounds like you're really easy going too. Time is non-renewable resource. We're not getting our time back. Lol ♥️
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I usually just spam pictures of black cocks. It's worked pretty decently so far but I'm gonna give your method a shot for a week and see what happens. It sounds like solid advice.
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Ha ha ha. I didn't know you were fond of Roosters. :)
I don't like making posts like these, ha-ha! However, I've been cracking down on the bots who are pissing off people — it's only fair I try to bridge the other side of the compromise. Quite a few brand new users have asked me about how to comment. I feel awkward af explaining it. Lol. And I get tired of re-explaining. So okay, I did my part.
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Funny coincidence. My last name is Dutch for Rooster.
In all seriousness, I see a million posts bitching about lazy commenters; the whole "Nice post, upvote blah blah blah, shit." This was actually a fresh post with useful advice on that subject, so you go girl.
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Comments to avoid: "Nice post." "Awesome, you are awesome, your writing will bring you to awesome far." (Yes, I've literally seen that.) "I'm your umpteenth viewer, excellent post." (Yet doesn't upvote, only ever comments.)
It's important to show appreciation to those people whom we read and engage with. Sometimes, short and sweet does the trick, sometimes elaborate does it. And you can usually tell those who just want that comment stat to go up rather than are commenting because they are devout followers.
Oh by the way, just followed you :p
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Thanks for following. While I agree it's important to show appreciation, I'll never feel (personally) that getting upvoted = appreciation. Sometimes people just throw upvotes around as well, or curate only for rewards. Same happens with comments.
We can never really know people's motives and I'm not going to judge anyone's motives as bad. I'm going to assume everyone is trying their best. 👍
However, we are all different and we all have different love languages. It certainly can help immensely to get an idea of what causes someone else to feel the appreciation as well.
I hope nobody reading feels told what to do here — that's my greatest fear in writing things like this. Its very take what is useful, ignore what is not.
I just want everyone to have a good time. ☮️
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Yeah, for sure. And you raise a good point. I do see some people doing their best, and I usually tend to ignore the spammers.
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Awesome comment. Followed you
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Cool! Thanks. Followed back :)
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TBH I was pissing around by leaving really terrible comments which disregarded the advice about quality comments. Why did I still get your positive responses .. I believe it is most likely because you value a comment as coming from an actual person - which leads you to take a look at he content I put out.. maybe you sort of like the content and so you followed back - I too go and take a look in that way. Maybe there are just two types of people here: some automate, are not here for reading or interaction, and others are here for human interaction, learning, quality content? It is very hard to judge which type of account one is dealing with just by a single comment alone.
The salient point that @omitaylor made here was that human interaction (and by that I include human evaluation or curation) is very important for building a quality feed and a positive experience. Understanding that will in the long run, enhance the platform. Hopefully, there are more of us than them ;-) Taking a close look a comment history is very important - I even push the account name into steemworld and look closely at other things sometimes
I follow up on most comments, upvotes and even those automated votes I am responsible for because of a curation trail I am following. I make a point of following up to manually evaluate. In so doing, I found many many great creators here.
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It also may be that she trusted you based on my trust, noticing that I responded to the same type of comment with some information about you.
People tend towards trusting the judgement of people they trust or like. :)
On the topic of trust, revealing human experiment results may cause some to distrust. Some also feel it denotes an interest in 'proving others wrong' which implies so many attitudes about oneself, deductively.
Knowing you're a teacher, I presumed you were not done here. ;)
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I also looked at @oneazania's reputation score, and since he followed me, I appreciated the follow. I looked at his bio, if you can call it that, and page, and followed back ;)
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Anyone would be mistaken to assume that a comment made in order to see the reaction of others is also a trick or dishonest in any way.
I didn't want to waste any time on too much detail for two main reasons: the first being something you mentioned - bandwidth. For me, it's limited time and effort as well.
The second reason is that counter views or too much detail are often not welcomed and dismissed or ignored as trolling: or heaven forbid, seen as stemming from ill-breeding, or flawed character. In my opinion, unless it is a counter or alternate argument, I am not contributing to the discussion in any meaningful way. Expressing by argument or demonstration is in itself an attempt to prove that another point of view is lacking in some way - not that the other person is wrong or flawed. This is emotional reasoning I think, and should not have a place in serious conversation. I do realize the climate these days is a bit like that. People feel entitled to have that affirmation only and nothing else. It is unfortunate because encounters tend to become dishonest in that there are always always compliments like "nice post" ;-) and very little if anything else.
Here on steemit more so, as there is a financial incentive to agree with others - it is for this reason also that i avoid engaging too much until I know who it is I am engaging with.
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I check people out too, look at their content, etc.
I think you can tell when someone is a regular creator of quality content, versus someone who spams. Sometimes it's hard to tell if they're actually spamming or trying to make an effort but unsure of what words to use because English is not their native language. But even those comments add to our own stats for comments for the Steemitboard. So in the end, they help us in a way.
I typically reply to comments too. Sometimes it can go on for days and days. Once I forgot to post what I wanted to post and I was just replying to comments. But sometimes that's how we can get into some pretty neat discussions.
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That's fantastic. You have a keen sense about people, no doubt very validating in your impact on others. I think we call it authenticity and maintaining a positive regard for others - that was what we called it back in the day ;-) Nice to come across this here.
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Back in the day indeed. I see that in the days before Facebook existed. It seems as though social media has removed that aspect of positive regard for others. Authenticity is rarer on regular social media platforms, I find, and even in person, sometimes it's tough to find. People engage in conversations in which they don't want to be engaging from fear of triggering someone, being called offensive, or from the unknown whether or not their views will be ridiculed. When someone risks being authentic, it can be very gratifying. I can't judge though, I myself have fallen into the trap of not engaging in authentic conversation in person from those very same fears. What weird is that it's easier with strangers than with people close to me. I care what my family thinks too much and I don't want to lose, I don't even know what. Whereas a stranger, I can't lose anything or care about them if they don't care for what I'm sharing. I can only gain with strangers, gain a new friend, a new confidant, gain a cherished moment, and perhaps they can gain too. And then we can gain trust and caring, thus friendship. I'm trying to make a conscious effort with estranged family members to be more authentic. Close family, no problem. We're close! Funny we can easily fall into those traps ourselves. As long as we never stop being authentic with ourselves, I think, then we can always know consciously whether or not we are being authentic with others in certain given situations.
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You said it very well. In one way or the other, there are stakes and we make that assessment in every situation and come to a different conclusion each time.. perhaps as we grow older we learn to appreciate just how positive that authenticity is - it is then that the stakes that point to our inner peace and personal evaluation of our own integrity, looms ever larger?
I wish you best of fortune with your attempts regarding family and generally in all things - peace to you always.
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A lot of knowledge in just one post... lately i found out that commenting is better than making posts
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Yeah, if you're posts aren't paying out $1 per day, then commenting can be far more lucrative financially. They're also far more beneficial in the long run because you build friendships because of them. So they can be looked at as long term investments. :)
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I don't think we would be friends today if we didn't comment on eachothers' post... I actually the importance of commenting but I'm just too lazy... Lolz... Can i hit your DM on discord? Wanna show you something you are missing. Dont bother commenting your username, i can find you
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My discord is in the link on top of my profile. Sure, anytime.
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I'm still fairly new to Steemit and honestly going through a lot of posts, it can be difficult at times to have an engaging comment with a plain post. Sometimes a Steemian will have a post of a picture of a flower for a challenge. How would an individual comment to that. Not really a way to engage with a lot of those type of posts.
YES, I agree, always try to start a conversation, engage, and ask question to start a discussion. We have to learn as much as we can together, that's why it's a community!
That is my take on it as a beginner. So far from what I see, the ones that give out boring comments that are actual users behind the screen will not get compensated or receive back engagement. Let them learn the hard way, it's fine!
@omitaylor
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I understand the difficulty with posting a comment on a photograph. Using ideas similar to the prompts, one could try:
Only say that if it's true, obviously. But the keywords there are because and feel. Also, I forgot to mention that a good way to engage an author is also by asking a question. Great feedback. That totally slipped my mind. You're right about that. I'll add that when I edit and give a shout out.
I generally agree with the "natural selection" method as you mention. ;)
However, being here the past couple of months active — not only have people asked me how to comment, but there are lots of arguments over the topic. Notably, I argue with bots that boss people around sometimes. Lol. But sometimes, I think they are under a lot of pressure to keep people safe from attack accounts building up power. I don't think anyone is happy about the current system. The bot owners don't like that people hate their bots. And the commentators don't like having comments that go ignored. Authors don't like having to go figure out if someone is real or not before they answer. I already slam the bots. So it's my hope that some of these ideas can help everyone else meet closer to the middle somewhere. 😀
Lastly, people ask me flat out to teach them my methods. So... I don't like repeating myself any more than others. Ha-ha ha
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I see your perspective. To conclude. I don't believe it's a method.
To simplify it, if you like the topic, try to engage as much as possible and stir up a conversation. There isn't a script you can copy from anyone else. That's the beauty of Steemit, you are free to speak your mind and communicate with your own style. And luckily Steemit offers many different topics that anyone can engage in!
But definitely would rather take a "Really nice picture" comment than no comment. And if you really wanted to take the extra mile to see if the account is not a bot, then you could check their profile and view their previous comments to justify that.
Anyways, thank you for your article, you are obviously doing this for a good cause. Keep Steeming!! @omitaylor
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♥️I appreciate your perspective as well. It's very, "Go with the flow." Those who have asked me are mostly non-native English speakers so perhaps that can effect confidence?
As an Aspie, I teach my Autistic kids this way. We have no flow. We're robots. Lol. We have little natural inclination to socialize. Add to that being an introvert (would you ever guess?) I think in methods. I can't imagine others do not sometimes, although I can understand not wanting to tell people you're methodical, as it has a bad connotation as lacking heart — when that's simply not the case.
You as well. I appreciate your remarks and I do see where you're coming from.
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Of course!!!
To answer your question. What I analyze from non-native speakers. They are smart individuals who want to put in the effort and engage to build their reputation which is understandable. Who doesn't want to build up their reputation? But you make a great point.
Keep working hard, I now followed you to see more of your discussions! Keep working hard Steemian! @omitaylor
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It is almost impossible to ignore a quality comment, when you get one on your own post or if you see one on other people's post.
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Long but worth reading @omi...... Keep it up
I hope The Minnie keeps swimming with the 1sp
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Good points. Will take them into account.
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Thanks for reading @oneazania
How is the education forefront going?
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