Na, dann will ich doch mal den &quot;Steem&quot; repräsentieren... (Bewerbung)

inspiracion (81) · last year

Oh, you don't know how excited I am to see your application, you are like fresh air, from the old school, of those who love to write for the love of art, and of those who understand what a community is and that we are all part of the community.

I understand very well what you are explaining and I completely share your reasons, I hope everyone can understand that they do not do things for sc, but for the community.

It would be an honor to have you teaching and spreading what you know. Here is a reader of yours :-)

I wish you much success, I know you will do great! 🤗🌺

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chriddi (73) · last year

And you can't believe how happy I am about your comment!
You and I have exchanged ideas from time to time and have found that we have different attitudes. We have always been able to understand and respect each other's perspective. There is no "wrong and right", every path is adapted to one's own circumstances and is good as long as one stands behind it. You were and are always a great inspiracion for me for such thoughts.... :-))

Haha, "fresh old air" is a nice metaphor. As long as it is not antiquated and dusty, everything is fine.... ;-)

Good success to you, too - I'd be honoured to work alongside you.

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inspiracion (81) · last year

have found that we have different attitudes.

Sometimes there are compatible and incompatible differences. But being able to recognize what is different and give it space enriches both of us. (speaking of course in a general sense)

We have always been able to understand and respect each other's perspective. There is no "wrong and right", every path is adapted to one's own circumstances and is good as long as one stands behind it.

That's right, there is no absolute truth, everyone has their truth. The important thing here is that this truth be sincere, be consistent.

In any case, human beings are complex, we change, we mutate, and that is also fine.

You were and are always a great inspiracion for me for such thoughts.

You are too, I believe that someone who can express their ideas with great freedom is worthy of admiration, because it is something that I also pursue, as I said, an ideal, another ideal :-))) ... Ideals are guides for my.

By de way, and since I have read many comments about the expectations of what an SR is or should be, what does it represent? I suppose it's a servant, someone who helps others, I don't see it as a role of power at all. It is a service, more than anything. That it would be great if we communicated and got together, that's true, and hopefully it can happen.

I think that much is left to our freedom and imagination, to our motivation... I am open to all of that.

Well, I wanted to tell you these things, after coming back here and reading all the comments. 😉

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chriddi (73) · last year

Ideals are guides for my

That is already the best approach. And in this certainty, there is no shame in overturning ideals or possibly admitting that one has represented "the wrong" ones. This only proves strength of character, the main thing is that you remain true to yourself. As you say, everything mutates/develops. People change, behavior changes, opinions change and... even platforms change... ;-)

expectations of what an SR is or should be

Hm. I'm approaching this bit by bit via the general definition of "represent". This means "to portray something" and for me this means first and foremost to represent a good example with a clear conscience. That is quite a task. The definition does not per se include servant, teacher or for that matter police officer.... ;-)

it would be great if we communicated and got together

I think that would be very important. Of course, you will never reconcile all the opinions and attitudes of 20-40 SR. But one should exchange and try to develop at least a somewhat aligned common basis. Isn't there something like a chat group for the SRs? There are enough egomaniacs on the Steem, SR should not represent this in my eyes.

reading all the comments

Haha, yeah, there's a lot to read, I'm puzzled myself. But that's exactly the "engagement" that I love on the Steem as social media: If a text inspires the community to an interesting dialogue (much more than comment 1, reply = comment 2, end), also "uninvolved" respond to the comments of others, community takes place.

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inspiracion (81) · last year

Hm. I'm approaching this bit by bit via the general definition of "represent". This means "to portray something" and for me this means first and foremost to represent a good example with a clear conscience.

Of course, it includes setting a good example, and that leads us to a dilemma, a good example of what? Because for that we have to know what is expected of someone in Steemit. And if we do it to please others or we do it because we like it and we identify with it. And in the latter there is an obvious divergence between the motivations that attract people to Steemit.

The "ideal" would be that people are here because they like it. Not to turn Steemit into a job that becomes immense and overwhelming... Since someone takes it that way, they are already beginning to lose their joy and taste, and they have written their next withdrawal.

The definition does not per se include servant, teacher or for that matter police officer.... ;-)

Becoming a servant depends on each one. In my Spanish language, being a "server" is not the same as being a "servant". I don't know if there is a word in English to express my idea. I meant someone who is inclined to help others, in our case, someone who is available to other steemians, guide and guide them, without this being a forced task, of course.

It does not include being a "teacher", since we are all learning, it would be being a collaborator who "shares".

Nor does it include being "Police", hahaha, but if we see something irregular, the logical thing to do is to say so, if we care about the community and its operation.

What I do want to emphasize is that in Steemit, sometimes we take everything very personally, with a lot of drama, there are those who make an effort for a few days, and then leave tired and exhausted... but nobody forces them to do that. In my experience, you have to maintain a balance like everything in life, and not lose the joy of being in Steemit, so that it does not become a boring "job" in which you are an "employee". I don't like that idea and I've always seen it as very absurd, but it's just my opinion. Steemit must be something different...

Maybe I have a lot to say, and I don't want to write too much lol 😅

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chriddi (73) · last year

The day Steemit becomes a job for me I have to leave... 😉

I look forward to continuing fruitful dialogues with you.... 😊

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inspiracion (81) · last year

Isn't there something like a chat group for the SRs?

Yes, there are groups on Discord, it's just that they're not very active, not to say that they have almost no activity...

That part should be energized... :-)

ubongudofot (79) · last year

Wow...wow..., again another surprise for me today..👍😀.

You have all it takes to represent Steem and I can only wish you success and Congratulations in advance for this role.

You got this!

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chriddi (73) · last year

Haha, yes, the surprises are piling up.
I'm probably most surprised about myself right now... ;-)
Thanks for your mental support... :-))

ubongudofot (79) · last year

I'm probably most surprised about myself right now

Surprises are good...😁😜

Thanks for your mental support.

jochenpaul (63) · last year

Liebe chriddi,
so wie ich dich kenne bist du die BESTE,
weil liebevoll, gütig und gerecht. Was fehlt da noch um eine würdige
"Steem Representative 2023". zu sein. Ich wünsche dir im Vorraus alles Gute.

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7 votes

chriddi (73) · last year

Danke, lieber Jochen. Deine Worte gehen mal wieder runter wie Öl... :-))

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pelon53 (80) · last year

Hi friend, you are bold and I think you would make a great Steem Representative.
You have great experience and you are very reliable. I liked your phrase: "The blockchain "Steem" belongs to all of us , we are the community!"

I don't speak, nor write English, I hope you can understand with the translator I used.

I wish you the best of success in this application. Regards

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chriddi (73) · last year

Thank you for your lovely comment. Of course I understand it, of course I also use translators - it's just faster.
But I would never write an article in a language I don't know. And I would never presume to judge the quality of articles that I can't understand on my own, based on whether someone wrote the text themselves or not. That would be arrogance par excellence in my eyes.

For me, the phrase is the most important one of all. Only who understands the phrase, has understood the Steem.

Maybe we together will reach the overall goal: Make the Steem a better place!

Thank you for your mental support.

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o1eh (79) · last year

I couldn't believe my eyes. Then I looked again and again I couldn't believe it. Application from @chriddi! Ah, no, just sarcasm. No, it's still an application!

I offered to many people to become a Representative, but I bypassed you deliberately, because I was convinced that you would refuse. But luckily I was wrong. Without a doubt, I wholeheartedly support your candidacy and have no doubt that you will be chosen.

I won't even write here why you deserve to be a Representative. Everything is self-explanatory. The question is whether we deserve to be your colleagues :)

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chriddi (73) · last year

Oh, Oleh, you know me... ;-) Or not. Sometimes, of course, I wonder about myself... ;-)
Fact is: If you want to move something, you have to become active yourself. And still is perhaps a little chance to pilot the steamer in a direction that I like a little better again, on which I like to hang around.

Your last sentence drives the blush in my face. What an honor!
But, stop, you got it, right?! We can only manage such a project together. A community must act together - and first and foremost see itself as a community.

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4 votes

o1eh (79) · last year

How wonderful to communicate with a person who also understands that we are a community. Yes, I am convinced that we can make a lot more together. But at the same time I have a touch of disappointment. I was a representative for six months, I didn't feel that we were a team or jointly resolved any issues. Each representative did a lot, but individually. And I do not blame anyone, I also did nothing to attract other representatives to work together. My project to create a marketing team to promote Steem in social media has failed. Yes, I have two accounts - on Instagram and Twitter, but there are no teams as such. I have no leadership qualities and I am comfortable to help, not to lead the project. In addition, now I cannot be steadily to be online, it takes a lot of time to work offline, circumstances are known.

However, I still applied to become a representative because this status is motivated for useful activity.

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chriddi (73) · last year

The understanding of "we are a community" should be a prerequisite for acting in a community at all! sigh

I didn't feel that we were a team or jointly resolved any issues

However, that should change pretty quickly. In a community, no one can achieve anything alone. Not even the Steemit team... ;-)

it takes a lot of time to work offline, circumstances are known

Of course. And everyone has to respect that. As well as everyone else's circumstances.
I'm not a full-time Steemian either. I have a job, a (animal) family, friends and definitely other hobbies than the Steem. One to two hours a day is the limit (longer when I write myself, proper posts just take some time). That has to be enough, and has always been enough (except when I was working in the cr team (which seems to have changed a lot in the meantime).

I still applied to become a representative

And then we rock the thing - it was always a funny pleasure with us... 😎

atego (65) · last year (edited)

The question is whether we deserve to be your colleagues :)

Really? Too much slime!

I'll tell you something, the aunt doesn't like it. Not at all !!! Believe me.

VgA

o1eh (79) · last year

Adulation was not my intention :-) For what? It's just that I respect the views @chriddi. Steemit without bots where higher rewards go to those who wrote the best post - is that bad? A wonderful, albeit impossible, dream.

atego (65) · last year

Steemit without bots where higher rewards go to those who wrote the best post - is that bad? A wonderful, albeit impossible, dream.

Wonderfully !

The question is whether we deserve to be your colleagues :)

It was just the sentence that was too exaggerated for me!

But chriddi enlightened me. Everything OK!
VgA

chriddi (73) · last year (edited)

Hihi, in der Regel ist das natürlich korrekt. Aber Oleh und ich wissen, wie wir einander zu nehmen haben. Stell dir dabei einfach zwei lebendige Zwinkersmileys vor dem Bildschirm vor... ;-)
Wir kennen uns übrigens aus dem cr-Team (Remember vor etwa einem Jahr? Mein erster "Versuch", auf anderer Ebene ein wenig "alten Wind" einzugeben...). Dabei haben wir einen sehr ähnlichen Humor festgestellt, sind stets an denselben Stellen "verzweifelt". Alles gut... :-))

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moecki (72) · last year

At the first moment I really thought that you also wrote to chriddi. But I did not feel like looking. :-)
Now I know that your were not responsible for that :-))

o1eh (79) · last year

Yes it's not my fault :)

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chriddi (73) · last year

"In for a penny, in for a pound"... ;-D
At least now I know who I can blame in case of doubt. Someone has to take the fault - and that is usually ALWAYS the others... ;-)

chriddi (73) · last year

Hiermit gestehe ich, dass ich Verantwortung für mich allein übernehmen kann - wie auch immer das ausgehen mag... 😱... 😉

moecki (72) · last year (edited)

Jetzt kommst du aus der Nummer auch nicht mehr raus ... äh, Moment mal, du musst den "Job" ja erstmal bekommen ;-))

chriddi (73) · last year

the-gorilla (75) · last year

I offered to many people to become a Representative

I thought I was special

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o1eh (79) · last year

I know you are too busy :)

weisser-rabe (76) · last year (edited)

Yessss! Beste Bewerbung ever! Ich schätze, eine mit Garantie und Rückgaberecht ;-))

Coooles Foto übrigens!

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moecki (72) · last year

Das Foto finde ich auch klasse ... und ziemlich passend :-)

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4 votes

chriddi (73) · last year

😎

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chriddi (73) · last year

Danke.
Hoffentlich "muss" ich nicht allzu schnell vom Rückgaberecht Gebrauch machen... ;-)
Das Foto ist grad mal 'ne Woche alt - sinniere wohl gerade darüber, weshalb alles, was gut gedacht ist und Freude machen könnte, so kompliziert sein muss... ;-)

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kiwiscanfly (78) · last year

Go Girl!

chriddi (73) · last year

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stef1 (81) · last year

Liebe Christiane,

Ich habe es mir schon lange gewünscht dich als SR zu sehen, um deine Meinung in wöchentlichen Berichten zu verschiedenen Ereignissen auf Steem und natürlich der Gruppen von SC und SR zu lesen.

Du bist schon sehr lange als Userin bei Steem dabei, und nimmst nicht nur in deine Community teil, sondern überall auf der Plattform. Du hast meine volle Unterstützung!

LG,
Karly

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5 votes

chriddi (73) · last year

Vielen Dank, liebe Karly. Deinen starken Worten füge ich mal nichts hinzu. Da du mich ein bisschen kennst, denke ich, du kannst dir vorstellen, wie ich jetzt mit gemischten Gefühlen (einerseits schmunzelnd, andererseits die Stirn kräuselnd) vor dem Bildschirm sitze.
Hey, ich bin nach wie vor davon überzeugt, dass wir gemeinsam etwas bewirken können. Und zwar nicht durch unseren für private User recht ansehnlichen Stake... ;-)
Habt ein tolles Wochenende,
LG Christiane

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moecki (72) · last year

Was'n das!? Eine Riesenüberraschung würde ich sagen!
Trotzdem - oder gerade deswegen - wünsche ich dir viel Erfolg :-)
So langsam steigt die Zahl der europäischen Bewerber doch etwas an.

Den Gedanken mit der Personalunion kann ich übrigens nur unterstützen. Die "Ämter" sollten breiter gestreut werden... wenn sich denn genügend (geeignete) Bewerber finden.

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chriddi (73) · last year

Hoffentlich eine positive Überraschung... ;-)
Ich selbst kann diese Überraschung für mich selbst noch gar nicht einschätzen. Übersprunghandlung? Ist eigentlich mal wieder ein typischer "Oh Mann, Chriddi, du wolltest dich doch raushalten!" Aber ich kann es einfach nicht (Stichwort "Personalunion" und noch so viel mehr...).
Naja, we will see... ;-)

visionaer3003 (76) · last year

"(Sorry, liebes Steemit-Team, ich schätze euer Engagement in vielen Bereichen, aber gerade in Europa wirkt "das Buhlen" um eure Gunst eher abstoßend)"
Da bin ich vollkommen bei dir, ich wünsche dir viel Erfolg!

5 votes

chriddi (73) · last year

Danke dir!
Mal schauen, wie viele User der neuen Steem-Generation daraufhin nachvollziehen können, weshalb "von uns" so viele User den Steem sehr angepisst verlassen haben... ;-)

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udabeu (70) · last year

Tja , #Es ist da ganz dummich wieder , was bitte ist ein Steemrepresentative ???

5 votes

chriddi (73) · last year

Wat is´ne Steem Representative? Da stelle ma uns mal janz dumm, und sagen, en Steem Representative iss ne jroße, runde, schwarze Raum mit zwei Löchern. Durch das eine kommt der Steem rein, un dat andere Loch, dat krieje mer später.

So oder so ähnlich.
Ganz genau kann ich es dir leider nicht erklären, weil Vorstellungen, Ausführungen, Interpretationen so stark variieren, dass vielleicht nicht einmal mehr die "Erfinder" dieses Postens 100ig antworten können.

Die Bewerbung ist eine Reaktion auf diesen Aufruf. In dieser Community kannst in Berichten mit vielen bunten Canva-Collagen sehen, was so mit dieser "Position" gemacht wird.

udabeu (70) · last year

Ok , danke für die Links , wenn ich das richtig verstehe ist das eine feine Machtposition für alle die , die Spass daran haben Macht über andere auszuüben , und diese für das Befolgen von Regeln und das Nachsprechen von Ideologien zu belohnen , höhö .

Aber das muss !man ja nicht unbedingt machen , hihi .
Also los , neue Wege sucht das #STEEM, hahü höhä .

!invest_vote

chriddi (73) · last year

eine feine Machtposition für alle die , die Spass daran haben Macht über andere auszuüben , und diese für das Befolgen von Regeln und das Nachsprechen von Ideologien zu belohnen

Ja, das haben einige tatsächlich so für sich interpretiert. Sollte dies auch der Intention der "Erfinder" entsprechen (was ich stark bezweifle), wissen sie sowieso, dass sie mich nun wirklich nicht für diesen "Posten" auswählen dürfen... ;-)

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udabeu (70) · last year

Höhö .

!invest_vote

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investinthefutur (64) · last year

@udabeu denkt du hast ein Vote durch @investinthefutur verdient!
@udabeu thinks you have earned a vote of @investinthefutur !

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investinthefutur (64) · last year

@udabeu denkt du hast ein Vote durch @investinthefutur verdient!
@udabeu thinks you have earned a vote of @investinthefutur !

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jesusjacr (70) · last year

Me pregunto si existirá alguien igual o más apegado a esta cadena de bloques... ciertos párrafos me han hecho sonreír, aunque no lo creas hace días que no sonreía (gracias por eso).!

Ya que has manifestado tu deseo por añadir más carga al peso que llevas encima pues te deseo el mayor de los éxitos, creo Steemit debería aprovechar esta oportunidad de tenerte en su equipo.

4 votes

chriddi (73) · last year

Muchas gracias, mi querido compañero de muchos años.
Aunque venimos de mundos completamente distintos, tenemos una actitud similar y la misma comprensión del mundo virtual en el que nos movemos juntos. A ver si contagiamos un poco de este esprit en "nuestro Steem".... ;-)

aunque no lo creas hace días que no sonreía

¡No puede ser! Espero que pronto lleguen tiempos mejores para ti y tu querida familia. Si hay algo que pueda hacer por ti, por favor házmelo saber.
En estos momentos sólo hay tristeza en nuestra casa. Para empeorar las cosas, Nuka ha muerto.

Te estaremos leyendo. Te deseo lo mejor.

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jesusjacr (70) · last year

Muchas gracias, siento mucho lo de Nuka, estuve leyendo el articulo que le dedicaste, me dio un poco de tristeza, espero que Dios pueda darles mucha fuerza en estos tiempos duros.

Saludos querida amiga.!

graceleon (79) · last year

Todos estábamos esperando que te unas al selecto y gran equipo de Steem representative del mundo, tus aportes serán muy significativos y definitivamente le darás un plus grandísimo a steemit y su crecimiento con tu desempeño como SR
Tienes todo mi respeto, admiración y cariño

chriddi (73) · last year

Muchas gracias por sus magníficas palabras. Tal vez un poco exageradas. Por favor, no ponga sus expectativas demasiado altas, porque ni siquiera yo puedo hacer milagros si la comunidad en su conjunto no me sigue el juego.
Veremos lo que se desarrolla, sigue siendo apasionante... ;-)

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the-gorilla (75) · last year

You could have just put this:

Klar wäre ich eine gute "Representative".

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chriddi (73) · last year

Hahaha, better blahblahblah than listing manipulable numbers. But you're right - I'll keep it shorter again soon... 😂

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peppermint24 (69) · last year

Kann man da irgendwo, irgendwie abstimmen?
Oder bestimmt das dann jemand? Wenn ja, wer und wann?

chriddi (73) · last year

Eine Abstimmung durch die Community wäre cool! Wer weiß...
Nein, bislang hat das Steemit Team diese Entscheidung allein getroffen, es ist nicht der erste Durchgang. Hier kannst du mehr erfahren. Und in dieser Community kannst du dir ein Bild darüber machen, wie einige Repräsentative ihre Berichte verfassen. Und jetzt weiß ich, wie du guckst... ;-P
Ja, ja, #FragenueberFragen... ;-)

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peppermint24 (69) · last year (edited)

bislang hat das Steemit Team diese Entscheidung allein getroffen

Warum wundert mich das jetzt nicht?
Und WER ist überhaupt das "Steemit Team"?

Gehört da die grandiose PR Managerin auch dazu? Also die Expertin für repräsentative Aufgaben.

Und jetzt weiß ich, wie du guckst...

Edit:

Und in dieser Community kannst du dir ein Bild darüber machen

Geil! Das ist ja der geilste JC ever

chriddi (73) · last year

Hm, also die Frage nach dem Dr. Wer ist noch nicht abschließend geklärt...

PR-Managerin? Keine Ahnung, ob die noch im Boot ist.

Immer diese Abkürzungen - JC und so...

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peppermint24 (69) · last year

Ich finde deine Bewerbung hat sich schon alleine für die deepl Kommentare hier gelohnt. Lange nicht mehr so gelacht.

chriddi (73) · last year

Prank Show? Du meinst, Paola und Kurt Felix kommen jetzt gleich um die Ecke?

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goodybest (78) · last year

I couldn't help but smiling when I see your application, well I don't have much to say than you deserved to be selected as on of Steem Representatives, your work here speaks volumes and I know you will make a good SR, So congratulations in advance ma'am.

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chriddi (73) · last year

Thank you for your kind words... :-))
I'm starting to be quite flashed to find out how many users observe and approve of my activities here on the Steem. I am indeed quite active, but most of the time rather not visible for everyone.
Hihi, in our culture there is a superstition: Premature congratulations bring bad luck. But I am not superstitious... ;-)

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goodybest (78) · last year

Hihi, in our culture there is a superstition: Premature congratulations bring bad luck. But I am not superstitious... ;-)

Oh this my first time of hearing this, and I'm not superstitious too... ;-)

atego (65) · last year (edited)

Erstens: Hallo!
Zweitens: verkaufst Du mir die Rechte an dem Foto🙄⁉️
Drittens: hast Du noch soviel Zeit übrig um Dich mit dem Ar…! In die Nesseln zu setzen um die STEEM Kinder an der Hand zu holen?

Ich bin mir sicher das Du die Richtige bist !

Aber, ist es das Wert ?

Gegebenenfalls unterhalten wir uns in einigen Wochen ,Monaten nochmal darüber.

VgA🙂

chriddi (73) · last year

Ja, hallo mal wieder... 😃
Das fasse ich jetzt mal als Kompliment auf, nicht als ernsthafte Frage. Oder was hast du damit vor... 🤪
Hm, wenn ich viel ändern müsste, dann nicht.
Danke... 😊
Hm... 🫣
Auf jeden Fall - so oder so!
VgC... 😘

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atego (65) · last year

Das Foto ist sicherlich Vermarktbar , man kann es einsetzen ,mir gefällt es , Ausdruck ,Kleidung ,und Accessoires machen es stimmig !
VgA🙂

ngoenyi (79) · last year

I am glad to see your application. Well, as for being dedicated and consistent, you are one of those that I love reading their comments. Very informative and educative.

Your interest to become a steem representative is well founded and your kind of person will represent steem very well as you have always done. What can I say? You are well qualified to be given this role and I pray you get the opportunity. I am waiting to congratulate you. Success in advance @chridfi

chriddi (73) · last year

Many thanks for your kind words and mental support.... :-))

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ngoenyi (79) · last year

You deserve it and more

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chriddi (73) · last year

Thanks. I don't really yet know what would be waiting for me and all of you if I were to take on this "role". For example, I don't think anyone deserves this role (I want to stress that I am still NOT talking about SP, money, promised votes, any "status", even a position of might (this term has already been used critically in the comments)). I think it is more of a task. The first part of accomplishing this task will be to answer the following question: Who or what is to be "represented"? I am so tired of these hypocrites, nepotism and eulogies of almost god-like considered big stakeholders. I do not want to represent George Orwell's conclusion "All Steemians are equal but some are more equal". I want to represent a community that acts collectively. I know that it will probably never be like that. But maybe I can - we can - contribute a small part. Only then will the Steem have a chance to become "a better place".

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ngoenyi (79) · last year

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a step. You are going to take the first step my assuming this role if you are considered. Then you can fix whatever that has not been done right. It doesn't matter how long it takes but having a purpose in mind and a strategy to achieve it, along with like minds, it is possible to achieve that dream steemit. I will do my part though I am just coming up after my fall back. I can, you can and we can. Don't you think so?

chriddi (73) · last year

Sure... 🤔

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ngoenyi (79) · last year

🤞

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https://steemit.com/hive-146118/@deutschunplugged/die-grosse-steemit-community-netiquette

slon21veka (74) · last year

Worthy candidate! I support!

By the way, but steem etiquette will not prevent everyone from re-reading it! And then too much "dirt" around! And the nastiest thing is that it is supported here! Thanks again for the mention of etiquette!