I think this was an interesting idea proposed yesterday and wanted to put it to a community vote.
Once daily voting
@thedamus had this idea yesterday and I personally think it's a pretty good idea. I do think alot of people have been posting twice/day just to ensure they get there 2 votes and often the quality of the posts is slipping. With all the people upgrading there tiers, gold has now fallen below 50%, so this means it will be super easy just to double the weights and people will really be unaffected by this. It will also make it easier to time your posts as I heard feedback that trying to stay within the current window was problematic at times.
I was tempted just to run with the change, but I'm going to take a step back and put it too a vote in the comments.
Voting Power
Power has not improved significantly with the changes and still around 85%. I will need to make some additional cuts, but unable to make and changes at work, so perhaps in the morning, or I'll just wait till we have the voting completed about the once daily votes.
Update Post
I was really hoping to get that epic update post nailed down soon, but work was a bit busy tonight so it's going to have to wait til tomorrow hopefully.
Second Chance Post
Here's another quality post from another new mafia friend. @mrs-v shares some silver memories in this post, it's a great way to get to know her a bit better.
Vote here to switch to 1 vote/day(at doubled weight)
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I'm for it! One Stax upvote per day at double weight is a plus for everyone! @ironshield
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If you were voting 1 time a day at double weight. What is being saved in terms of voting power? Surely you would be using more voting power this way as not all Stax members post twice a day.
I like the one upvote day idea with double weight but i dont see how it fixes anything. Maybe i have missed something.
Thanks Stax for keeping us up to date
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It may not be exactly double, but it will no longer encourage people to post more often just to get a vote.
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Im guiltyish. I always did 2 posts but i have changed the time i upload them. Once a day means i can get back into my old routine of back to back posts.
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Quality of posts I think, not posting twice just to get a vote. So doing one great post rather than two ok posts.
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This will only promote better material out of our community. I'm with it!
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no, it will only promote more the silver and gold status members! bs
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Well I personally find it hard writing 2 posts a day. And if I had more time to write them I'm sure they would be better.
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Once every 23 or 23.5 hours would prevent the same problems we had with once every 12 hours.
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So tax will upvote the recent post after the last post hits 24 hours, than the rest of our post in the day we can always join forces as a community and support each other, lol just an opinion...
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Many of us do support each other. But it is a valid point. We should be voting each other more.
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All my votes as small as they are stay in the community 👍
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Is there anyway to limit the voting to post that put #steemsilvergold first? The reason I ask is that I have posted without the hashtag, because the subject matter was not about gold or silver and I still got a vote from stax. While I appreciated the upvote, I felt a little bad about it because I think that the upvote should be given to post promoting the community.
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I agree. @ironshield
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Seconded
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For the greater good mate. I can see the benefits of only getting 1 vote per day. Will it be 1 post per day(00:01 - 23:59) or 24hours between upvotes?
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From what @bmj said it's gonna be every 24 hours + 1 minute, so if you posted at 12am then the next day you would have to post at 12.01, or if you post early then edit your post after so you don't get skipped!
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It would be like qurator with a timer, the same as the current, build but we would likely just do 22hrs, just like they did, so that people have a daily 2 hr window to post kinda thing.
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I'm good with this or leaving it at two a day. I'm not sure who is gaming the system, but if they are, shouldn't we expel them? Just a thought. Also, if you are not able to set it at "calendar day" and it is based on hours, I would suggest a twenty hour window. That gives people a bit of leeway. I don't think anyone posts every day at the same exact time. And it would take a lot of effort to game a 20 hour window.
Also, if we are losing power, maybe the idea should be to split the difference and go with a 1.5x increase.
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Quality for quantity. Please also add the new members. Weighting I do not care much about.
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In my opinion Stax should only vote posts tagged with #steemsilvergold, limited to once per 12 hours. This will help with the VP percentages. Higher percentage votes across the board would reward community more generously.
Also, encouraging community members to trail the bot with supplemental upvotes! I think there are services that can do this. Imagine a whole army of silver/gold enthusiasts who automatically upvote your #steemsilvergold posts with STAX leading the charge. @ironshield
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i totally disagree! why at doubled weight? sry, that's just nonsense.
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The weights will be adjusted so that stax’ vote remains high. This doesn’t just benefit tiered members — why so neg all the time P? — and people can still post 3,4,5 or six times a day! It just means Stax pays out only once to each member and not several times for shit posts.
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I'm good with the switch to 1 vote/day(at doubled weight), if that helps. Sure!
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I'm ok with 1 vote per day myself.
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@Thedamus is a Wise Man with a Silver Baeard and a Golden Heart 🔨.. and a big hammer !! 👍
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Love it :) #myeveningcomic
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Bah ha ha! Thx O!
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I am really keen to join steemsilvergold. Do you know where I can find a post of how to join?
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STAX Day Off!
Can we just give STAX a DAY OFF for one day and let her get to 100%?
If she's staying at 85% power, is she stable? If so, the she would stay stable at 95%, if she is allowed to regen. So, let's just let her regen up to 98% to 100%. Would this allow to keep the code the same?
Suggestion: No Upvotes on Thusday 11/18/2018. STAX Day Off!
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One day off every 10days (or whatever) is a great idea. I’m with it!
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Certainly, give Stax a day off as needed, every 10 days, or probably if power gets under 85%. This helps Stax AND the upvotes will be greater at 95%.
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Vote here to switch to 1 vote/day (at current weight).
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Why???
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Yeah, why! STAX has problems to recover, but wants to vote with doubled weight...
What's the message of that? There are some very good members who never get a vote!!! @silverfortune for example. He regularly brings good content, but nobody is paying attention.
That's just wrong! Good content is not a matter of high votes. Look @ajain for example. Now, STAX is going to become a money generating machine for those who have already. Was this the basic idea? No! Back to the roots please. One normal weighted vote a day is enough. In particular, STAX should support those who deserve support without first having to pay for it.
But I see, the majority wants something different. Anyway, that makes me sad and I am getting annoyed about this development...
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O fuck Pawos, just chill out man! It’s not a huge conspiracy around here. People are just trying to make it better.
Consider this (i do it all the time):
Maybe you are just wrong...
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Ay @thedamus, maybe you are right. I'm stressed these days and of course it could be, I'm a bit off the track. Sometime I react a little emotionally. I also think of members whom I consider worthy to be supported because they are an asset. I vote them as far as I can. Sometimes you feel left alone, you know. But that should not be your problem. I will take a longer break now. Greetings
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No need to take a break man. There will always be bigger and smaller fish, and opinions you find lousy, and opinions you find great. Believe me, ssg is a solid group and is setting things up for a good long ride. Just keep swimming man!
Cheers
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Everyone has a different opinion and that's fine, it ain't black and white, one vote per day is perfect because 2 votes in 48 hours is better for Stax than 5 votes every 50 hours, that should be enough to let her regain strength even at double weight. The community as a whole will vote and we will follow Stax, I have faith in the people making the decisions because it's all of us! Maybe silver fortune just needs to interact more it's not just good content that gets you attention there's alot of factors.
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Well said
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I can agree with Stax proposal. It is for the greater good so to say. May it is also an idea to stop giving upvotes to members that are posting on subjects which are not related to the actual purpose or goals of the ssg community or is that like “swearing in the church”.
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One vote a day makes way more sense. I dont think it is really possible to put out more than one quality post a day for most people. i think people are just gaming the system and ruining it for everyone!
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Something to note: If you're using the same code as @qurator, with the votes set to 1 per day you will get some time creep in the upvote time, i.e. you will have to post at least a minite later than 24 hours previously, or post early and edit and update the post after the 24 hour window to get the vote. Or use a service which schedules your posts.
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So at the moment with the 10 hour vote, if I accidently post at 9 hours 45 mins, then instead of Stax skipping my post I can edit it after the 10 hour window and still get a vote?
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That's the way the Qurator code works, so yes, I think Stax would do the same.
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I also support this Good work
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Yes, I agree. We should build the community.
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but pls do not lower the lowest ranks (1 and 3%) any more. they are low enough!
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Wow just amazing picture I really like you
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If your eyeing up our girl Stax then she's taken! Lol
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As a person that posts multiple times a day (recently at least x2 due to my curations duties @thealliance) I'm completely ok with this.
I appreciate the @silvergoldbotty upvotes and the #steemsilvergold support and can see the advantage of encouraging one daily quality post.
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I would like to support it, but my power so low
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Vote here to remain at 2vote/day at current weight.
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Thank you for the Second Chance Post!! Being a newbie here isn't easy. There is a lot to figure out and understand. Been trying to read posts to understand how things work.
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I have been holding my peace for a while now, I know my opinion probably doesn't matter cause i have nothing to delegate to stax yet, but realistically speaking, getting a vote from stax here and there is great ,don't get me wrong and I do appreciate it altho I do not expect it because of the fact I can't even help myself yet so ... I get the paying members get way way way more, rightfully so...to a point. I'm not sure I see/feel much sense of community except for those who can afford to, I upvote her everyday, I interact with ssg members everyday, Frankly the posts and conversations I have been reading since the beginning of the year kind of concerns me and makes me feel shitty for being a nobody and feel like I should just leave. Not all my posts are about metals because they don't get much interaction. Maybe they are just crap too...Therefore I post what gets me ahead and that is my travels , I do my best to do both because of my love for metals. As somebody who will eventually have enough to delegate someday ( I hope) I am more likely to delegate to a curation trail or community that has supported me the most and display the same support for other lower members rather than just the big fish, that is what grows a community. If botty can't get ahead, how will doubling the vote power on the big fish help heal her?? you are also limiting the growth of the smaller members that would delegate to stax once they felt they could help her help the community in return. 1 regular vote /X amount of hours sounds reasonable, if she can handle more than do more I guess. If the community grows as a whole botty grows too.
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It seems you need a little bit of an adoption. I have been on steemit since June of last year and I have "adopted" several steemians. People who I check in on a regular basis, give a little bit of positive feed back and encouragement. Sometimes, the feed gets really crowded and with the "time zone" issues I miss a great many quality posts. Keep up the good work! Great photos of the Rockies by the way. I suspect you live in gold/silver mining country? If yes how about some photos of the mines or historical mining towns? I will do my best to pop by on a regular basis.
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Thank you for your support and words of encouragement!! ( i probably need a bit of that right about now! I hardly post anymore and debating just curating and stop posting) Alberta isn't known for gold mining at all , just placer deposits. We mine oil and coal and have a rich fossil history. The gold mine history is mainly up way north in the territories of Canada. I will continue looking for legends and the possibility of coming across gold mining history aside from panning, I agree it would make for cool stories.
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You are most welcome. Please keep posting, the difference in time zones can make it difficult here to keep up with everyone. Which might be a strategy when posting. For instance, you are probably posting 2-3 hours after I have logged off. If most of your followers are in the eastern time zone or in Britain, your posts are some 20-22 hours down on the Feed? How often do you go down the feed by 20-23 hours? Timing can mean everything in the way of exposure. And certainly far more difficult for those in the western part of the continent. For instance, if you post at 6 pm your time, its after 8? in the eastern time zone, everyone in Europe is fast asleep and Asia doesn't wake up for another 8 hours. As an experiment, you may want to create your posts in the evening but wait until the early morning or perhaps mid-day if you can to post. Just a thought, and thank you for all the upvotes, although completely unnecessary.
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Great tips, I have tried most of the posting times, the morning or afternoon I get crickets, posting around 11pm to 12 am (western Canada )gets me the most interaction since much of my follower base and consistent supporters are in Australia. I gladly up-vote those who encourage me even if it is not required :)
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See you are way ahead of me. :)
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