If you're familiar at all with what happened to Walt Disney's entertainment empire following his death, you'll be well acquainted with Roy Disney. I'd call him a polarizing figure except I've never met anybody who remotely approves of the direction he took.
It's tough to figure out how much blame he deserves however, versus shareholders, for the mutation of Epcot from Walt's vision into "just another theme park". It was originally going to be a futuristic, utopian model community based around the newest technology available then, and Walt's own fascinating attempts at social engineering through urban planning.
Walt approached designing human habitats the way you might design a zoo exhibit, starting from an understanding of the behaviors and needs of the organism that will reside within. He took a view, popular at the time, that clever design could solve many human social ills.
For example, by plotting out convergent foot paths to every shared piece of community infrastructure (like dumpsters, mailboxes, and so on) neighbors would often have to walk next to one another on the way to perform some mundane chore. They would then at least see one another face to face frequently, and perhaps talk.
This would reduce the likelihood of one committing any sort of crime against the other, as it's emotionally a very different thing to wrong somebody whose face and name you know, versus wronging a stranger. This principle facilitated group cohesion in the distant ancestral past of our species, but only works up to groups of a certain size.
This is somewhere between 100 and 250, or "Dunbar's Number". Basically humans are only capable of remembering and maintaining about 150 different relationships. So the size of a social group of humans which exceeds that number will unavoidably begin experiencing social maladies related to anonymity.
It's like living in a small town, where nobody can get away with everything because everybody knows everyone else and gossip spreads quickly, versus living in a big city. Where, paradoxically alone among the teeming masses of strangers, you can indeed get away with a great deal and won't necessarily feel as bad about it because you don't know 99% of the people around you.
While the notion that you could shape human behavior so directly by architectural means is unpopular among sociologists, it had a great many adherents in the 1960s and 1970s, and many of the principles devised during that period remain influential today.
For example, many prisons paint their walls salmon pink because psychological studies show it reduces aggression. It's hard to feel like a bad ass when you're in a pink room. Or fast food signs being commonly red and yellow, the colors shown to subconsciously provoke hunger.
I do have some feelings of discomfort surrounding these efforts. I am inclined to distrust social engineers who want to change my behavior by one method or another without my knowledge, because I object to a stranger assuming he or she knows what's best for me. Or that I need to be fooled, or controlled in some way, in order to behave myself.
That said, where is the line between social engineering and plain old streamlining? Many of the principles Epcot was going to showcase simply made life smoother and easier. It's not as if nobody these days is trying to sell us products which make our lives easier, but which also control or leverage us in ways we didn't agree to.
It is after all distressingly common for regular people to separate humanity into themselves, and "the teeming unwashed horde". All of those other people are conscious, feeling individuals too. Few would hesitate, if given the power, to make changes to society that suit them. Reasoning perhaps that if others don't like it, they will warm to it in time, and that "I know what is best for others anyway".
Walt's version of this wasn't as sinister or elitist, I think. If you study his original plans for Epcot, the focus was mostly on preventing isolation and alienation, cultivating a feeling of belonging and community. Walt, after all, was a deeply humanitarian fellow with grand visions for a future which elevated us all. Maybe the problem isn't social engineering. Maybe it just matters very, very much who the engineer is? Or the imagineer, in this case.
Stay Cozy!
Can't decide what I want. Futuristic utopia or just a small house surrounded by the greenery. Where I can play my banjo and relax.
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I was reading your post and thinking yes, it's definitely a matter of moral values of who has the "power" to shape social behavior. More and more it seems to be the only solution to most society's problems, but also the more disregarded (schools still don't focus on moral education, sports, civism and citizenship)
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I went to Epcot as a kid, even as a kid who didn’t know much I thought it was a weird place and didn’t enjoy it compared to Disneyland.
It’s no Space Mountain, let’s put it that way.
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I was the opposite. It was a transformational experience for me, especially the Spaceship Earth ride and the boat ride through the pyramidic enclosed hydroponic farm. It gave me a glimpse of what the world could become with human ingenuity and organization.
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Smart design is like heaven. Heaven is free from various diseases. Therefore, let's create our paradise in their respective areas to avoid the various diseases of society.
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Well I could say his intentions were majorly sacrificial, he's done his best in his version and ways he could ever, a tree doesn't make a forest at all,
He's been amazing all these years
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Walt's version of this wasn't as sinister or elitist, I think
I too think the same.
the focus was mostly on preventing isolation and alienation, cultivating a feeling of belonging and community.
I think he was working for a better things which only a few people do in today's world.
The isolation is good to some extent but if its exceeded it can cause various problems for the individual
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Alex - I think he's trying to greet a common problem of Euro/Us zone countries... But there's a different in my country... I never feel we're isolated... Family & neighbor relationships are strong in Asian counties than yours... But I like this concept Alex...
+W+
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@alexbeyman I can't claim to know his intentions, but sticking to the original plan would have been a huge plus for Disney in the long run.
I think after he died Roy decided to swap quality for quick profits
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thanks to Walt's preliminary work on the project, we have a good idea about what life in EPCOT could have been like if this city of tomorrow had ever been completed.
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Design can do a lot to change behavior. Narrower streets, either by design or due to parked cars, naturally slow traffic. A narrow street plus little to no front yard, puts neighbors closer together, making it more likely for them to feel compelled to say hello and ultimately get to know each other. Making stairs more salient than the elevators can encourage people to use them instead of the elevators. Of course, designing with such affordances in mind can be used for public good (eg, to increase exercise) or for harm (such as encouraging the purchase of candy in a checkout line).
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I never knew that yellow and red could provoke feelings of hunger in an individual. Was there a study into that which explained why that is? Human beings are so fucking strange, man.
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Pick your source: https://www.google.com/search?q=fast+food+signs+red+and+yellow+hunger
Probably due to the color of fruit our tree dwelling ancestors ate.
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I think it's more strange that this is the first time I've heard about this even though there's so many results. Can't believe I haven't seen someone post about this for the 30th time on Reddit by now, considering all the bullshit that gets reposted on there.
Also, check out the game Raft on Steam. It's in early access but it looks like something that would be up your alley. Though, maybe you already know about it, lol.
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It's like Subnautica but for seasteading right? Building floating artificial islands?
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Yeah, it's very much like that. There is an end game to it where you take your raft and make your way to a location in the world, but it's not really an "end" at the same time. I watched Cr1tikal play it yesterday and figured it would be something you might enjoy, since you enjoy the ocean so much. Though I think it'd do better with more sea life besides the great white that follows you.
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@alexbeyman,
Walt Disney brought innovation and built that empire and now they are trying to expand it through new case study! This is a great idea, but sometimes it might not work! Coz, the world contents with different type of people, beliefs and thoughts!
Cheers~
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If it is difficult to control the way you have to see things, but they just want to sell and forget what you think or really like everything. It is a very beautiful park my children would be very happy to go and would not notice any error or failure.
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Epcot turned out much differently than Walt had originally imagined it. Before Disney’s death in 1966, EPCOT was actually intended to be a real community where people would live, work, and play
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I wish I could send some time there too :(
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This is really interesting. I never knew that about Epcot, and I appreciate the way you used it as a jumping off point for a broader thought piece. Interesting that Walt was a humanitarian. He has had a reputation in historical memory for being racist and anti-Semitic though I recall that some have disputed it. I can’t remember the exact details and it’s a bit late in the night for me to be digging down that rabbit hole.
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Nobody who has ever lived was perfectly good. Everybody's a mixture of good and bad. To love a human being is unavoidably an exercise in learning to tolerate a little bit of shit in your chocolate cake, so to speak.
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That is very true. I just did some surface level internet research and came across this. Have you seen it/heard of it? This is fascinating. Definitely warrants an article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_for_Death
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Whaaat for real? My is painted pink, no wonder
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That's great context on the original vision of Disneyland, I had no idea that he had intended to create a utopian like model for living. But I guess such a community wouldn't bring in money the way Disneyland is a massive income behemoth today...
That's a good number to keep in mind, Dunbar's number of 100 to 150 but it's really small. It would be nice to get to know more neighbors, and have more incentive to, though, I uh don't know as many as I should
Psychology is such an interesting thing to study but the people who study it for a living simply have that edge of always keeping the subconscious in conscious thought, it's hard to fight against especially when it's so innocuous as changing color scheme
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Wow... really beautiful scenery. I really love the architecture. Wait... If pink reduces aggression, how come I know of lots of women who really crazy yet love the color pink..lol. One would have a pink shirt on and be like "Ngga what the fck did u say to me?"... haha
Epcot really seems like a nice place to be. Thanks for sharing.
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wao what a nice place
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Really impressive photography. Lol @alexbeyman.
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A very nice park for events and family gathering and friends. That's just after many who want to manage the place.
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This is amazing sir one of the best blog post sir have a great day.
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I keep forgetting that things changed dramatically when he died. Epcot has never made sense to me as it stands today.
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It's the Monkeysphere effect. Best write-up I've seen, if a whimsical and somewhat coarse one:
http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html/
Also, Walt was right about Epcot design.
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In fact, art can make the mind relax. Similarly, the art of architecture with all the art of decoration also of course can reduce stress because it is spoiled by a comfortable atmosphere.
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Surely the plans of Walt Disney were others for EPCOT, and perhaps the current design does not resemble those that Walt thought at the time, what if it is certain that when planned on the fly ideas that can improve or emperor emerge Original, Darwin mentioned something as it is not the strongest species or the intelligent that survives but the one that adapts to the changes, surely Walt did not imagine the impact that would be drawing and imagining. interesting publication
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first drawings of Walt Disney
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