lightweight afternoon tea VICE

in stuff •  3 years ago  (edited)

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Its cute to do but it would be cuter on a hard machine since vice cant guarantee framerates

not even in basic - which makes it kinda hard to figure out something that would "look on a hard machine"

checked it, they're as available as steam decks

must be something with chips but HEY, everythings going GREAT i hear

Its what they call a hobby dearie, also "problem solving" is what they call "a skill" or in some people " a talent"

do NOT MOCK THE COMMODORE BASICS

my question here since its super linear and pro-devs in '22 would drag 'n drop my ass over hot coals cuz REDUNDANZ

is = does gosub return add more cycles ?

its already basic (on an emulated machine)

i can only assume it does since it would need a JMP code (and most likely one to return)

so linear redundanz should actually work faster

...

yea, "get a hobby" they say and then when you do at the ago of 8 they say "hey maar dat is niet weirken voor het zwembad van de baas!"

you must be corrected!

20 poke 53280,11
30 poke 53281,0
50 print chr$(147)
500 a = 0
510 b = 1
520 d = 1
530 a$ = "0123456789"
540 dim cc(4)
550 cc(0)=0:cc(1)=1:cc(2)=11:cc(3)=12:cc(4)=15
560 print cc(4)
570 rem end
990 print chr$(147);
995 print "the amazing flying rasterbascii";
1000 rem poke 780,0
1001 rem poke 781,a
1002 poke 646,cc(0)
1003 poke783,0:poke782,a:poke781,b:sys58634:
1010 print a$;a$;a$;a$
1020 poke 646,cc(1)
1021 poke783,0:poke782,a:poke781,b+1:sys58634:
1022 print a$;a$;a$;a$
1030 poke 646,cc(2)
1031 poke783,0:poke782,a:poke781,b+2:sys58634:
1032 print a$;a$;a$;a$
1040 poke 646,cc(3)
1041 poke783,0:poke782,a:poke781,b+3:sys58634:
1042 print a$;a$;a$;a$
1050 poke 646,cc(4)
1051 poke783,0:poke782,a:poke781,b+4:sys58634:
1052 print a$;a$;a$;a$

1900 rem
1905 rem sys 65520 a bon ?
1920 rem
1930 b=b+1:d=d+1
1940 rem
1950 if b = 23 then b = 0
1960 if d = 15 then d = 0
2000 goto 1002

indeed, the idea is to move to assembler

the question is : "the point on an emulater that cant hold 1/50 steady ???"

the answer to THAT is : dont expect a demo for revision '22

L M A O

but i expect revision '22 TO BRING ME SOME GUDNESS ...

im not too hot on the animated gif section but hey

creativity is creativity !!!! its cool too, but not as cool as farblight


if you're into the greatest machine that ever lived (and still sells hotcakes IF THERE ONLY WERE CHIPS TO PUT ON THE BOARDS?)

we decided to put https://alleycat.be to c64 frendsite

there will likely be .d64 files but syntax wants to use torrents

and for some reason transmission wont register the uploads

maybe if we do on windos, download it on linux and then seed it from there

(and then beinbraf and tim "da troll") and interpol up dat ass CUZ TORRENTS, THE MACHINE RUNS TORRENTS, BREAK DOWN THE DOOR !

FAST

besides

wekeepz tellin ya

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take one look at steam and you see what sells for smalldies

otome

... well, hentai but yea

nevermind #offtopic, bye

the pot is ready he who submits one can get 50 steem, dont go out of your way, doit it you do it anyway and you dont even have to take the 50 steem hey

YOU DONT EVEN HAEV TO SUBMIT IT

we dont really care either way (hahah)

the site is "just there"

since we just do stuff

@lleyc@ out


a nay c :

<3 the way it doesnt clean up for you - the directory listing stays in if you dont clean it - we feel, as a rank amateur hobbyist ... anyone who cant do a demo in 64k is forbidden to call themselves engineer and should stick to "enthusiast" :)

des?

goed dan

hmm ?

yea using Xed and pasting the code is not a sin

but not sure you can do that on a hard machine, i hurr the l33t uses cross platform assemblers though so they must whatever no idea - have something that plugs into the serial port as an usb drive ?

NO IDEA

no money

no machines available anyway :)


srusley ... there simply are no machines, its just as available as n-vidia (xept in laptops you can throw away next year) or steam decks before 2023 (so they say)

its not like we're proving anything here and o btw

NICE WEATHER, HUH, lets not get too close to anything potentially offensive to anyone on the planet

look at THAT

5pm

that lightweight afternoon tea soup is calling

also :

if you copy paste from XED, try to remember that line numbers with rem statements are actually there

so

1090 print a$
1090 rem print a$;

will get you null prints at 1090 - the wonderful world of "BUY IT NOW (but we dont have it)"

2022

... and counting

so, srusley that revision demo will have to wait hahah

need a reference by a group huh ?

no thanks, ...

i understand the neet for l33t but looking at everything dumped at csdb i wonder who re-defined that

but its GREAT, creativity is always great

as long as its not click-whoring

(language boys, language)

yea ... language

i hear C is not a language anymore

some python-censoredist said so

well, we are old anyway so it doesnt matter

ask besos , he wants YOUR money (obviously since WE have none)

maybe YOU matter :)

(lulllllllll zzzzz)

the last vid shows nice how VICE is funky with the fps , its like "warming up" and then it starts printing steady

its "plotting" i think in this case

sys something something, we'll put it up on .d64 if your kid wants to learn basic

its still a nice thing

problem solving

at ground level

(after a fashion)

oh

Minimize the number of Basic lines Write many Basic statements on the same line whenever possible, since it takes more time for the interpreter to go to the next line than to pass a ":" on the current line. Also, this will keep the number of program lines down, which will make jumps (GOTO etc) faster.

Spaces slow the code down
Just make it a habit to never write spaces in code, at least when speed is a factor. It saves some time (albeit not very much), and it will allow you squeeze more code into a single program line.

REM statements slow the code down
It takes time for the interpreter to read through the REM statement or just pass the line which holds the REM statement. Also, if your program starts getting big, you will start making optimizations where you use up more memory to make something faster. If your program is filled with REM statements, you will have less free memory available for this kind of optimization. To still make the code readable, you can keep a text file on the side with comments.

more heresy :)

dont tab, dont whitespace, DONT explain HAHAH

l m ao

its the language of demons

Tramil-basic

the body says no

yea but this counts as gamin, c, matey - here and hurr hear : all those yuppies wasting oodles and zounds on brain training and coahsing on brainttraining coaches

which gets them nothing xept the coach gets paid and they get better at braintraining

and you complain "im wasting time"

YOU STOLE MY FUCKING LIFE

YOU waste my time

oh

right

well, dont get me started, im sure you'll find someone who still thinks they want a house by the bank in 40 years and a mortgage for the car , fresh from school at the age of 29 with 20 phds

who wants to work your factory job and do IT at the same time for €9 an hour

GO !

now we are truly fairl33t and ready for revision, WATCH THAT RASTERBAR GO !

GO!

(atari?)

eeeeeeeehh

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no ,frend, since its a plot system call for faster actually when it prints the last line it scrolls the screen so id have to remove a character

which would cost as much cycles as the whole loop takes ? i dont have my picosecond callibrater tool wif me sorry

but yea thats it

so yea

asm would be nice but again : whats the point if that thing cant keep its fps ?

naw, the 'finished' tutorial one will be on the downloadable .d64(s) on alleycat.be - i think it can do better

but its hard to tell if the emulator doesnt stay steady

--- yaww

naw , euhm

its like nine printcalls right, black, 3 grey white, 3 grey, black but 9 times 40 is
360 (hm?)

so if a string can hold 255 it should be able in two , which essentially is akin to lightmap baking hashtable trickery by offering up programming logic at the cost of expensive bytes of memory by reading them before the loop

:)

problem solving HAHAH

lets go to mars now

shall we ?

o wait ?

got money ?

(im not applying for a job - at any rate, even if i were american and still able to deal with humans if you put two unstoppable nutforces in one room the building will eventually collapse - it would be a bad idea :)

anyhoo

hoooooooo

the kid LOVED this, so since the ghost of the kid (which you killed by trying to ... what was that agaion ?? "cure it from introvert, right, GREAT JOB YOU DID THERE) is still inhere we kinda ease out while doing that

just like sidtunes

myeah

it says

NUT-case

dearie

nutcase

you did that but the result remains

its pointless fingering you

probably offensive too ? harassment or something

over something you did and be politician about it

ppp:s:

while falling asleep as the body says no

its really hard to say without some kind of system timer and a variable framerate but i think the second one is faster, it SHOULD since it has like at least 20 calls less (in basic, no idea how many that are at machine level)

you get up for that ?

i would ... more for the music but yea

it depends on how much of your sisters panties were available and the magnetism attracting me to one side or the other

not all panties are alike ... its a hard fact of life, now

... DE-FUNCT

can you say defunct ?

shattered

cant believe i just got up for that but it proves somethign i been thinking

i shoulda bought me one again long ago :)

then maybe had an amiga by now too , never had one of those ...

poor kid huh

poor kids cant be choosers ?

yyyyeaaa

my life is not a story

nevermind

what i SHOULD be is sleeping haha hahahaha haha ha

sure

200 million and ill think about it, in a box that says "no strings attached" and " you do not need to take dick up your ass for this"

i cant deal with humans anymore

ive had too many humans

and most of them are triffids now anyway

leaving out the zombies

gud

BED

BED

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tis true - they said so - C is no language anymore

so we all wait in awe OD'ing on dopamine to see their RUST and python demo at revision to prove it

hm - it should stick to "here's a picture of my vice basic program" and get $499 instead - if it gets time to heat up it shows issues