The new service from Gab, 'Dissenter' has been coming under constant DDOS attack since yesterday...
I'm not sure whether this is being done by 'well meaning' people who think they are attacking Nazis with free speech abilities in Dissenter's uncensored commenting system - or whether it is coming from more centralised control freaks.. But either way, it is likely coming from control freaks!
The net result is that Dissenter is very slow to respond at the moment. I'm surprised that DDOS attacks are effective in this day and age, given that Cloudflare are so reliable in blocking them.. I have suggested that the Dissenter team consider using cloudflare if they aren't already!
All hail free speech! I'm not a fan of nazis or of reading nazis, but I am a fan of uncensored comments - despite that it means I have to read comments from people I really don't like.
Wishing you well,
Ura Soul
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Excellent, thankyou cat! :)
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Its not uncensored and the owners of gab spoke against any efforts to established uncensorable communication such as the communication we have here with a blockchain.
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As I understand it, they are uncensored in the sense that they won't change or remove comments without legal pressure to do so - is that not correct? That is also how steem and steemit are too. I haven't seen the creators of gab speaking negatively about Steem, do you have a link to that?
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They did speak negatively about decentralised social media in general. And, for the record, nothing will be removed from steem no matter how illegal it may be. It cant be. At most, a frontent like steemit can refuse to deliver the content, it will however allways be part of the blockchain and accessible that way.
Thats the benefit of a blockchain.
As for what they do and dont remove, they do remove lolicon using obscenity laws as an excuse to do so. Their statements, calling it degenerate and so on, made it perfectly clear that they are typical right wing SJWs. If they cared about obscenity laws, theyd remove a lot more - and theyd also not remove lolis depicted in nonsexual situations, either.
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As I understand, the Steem blockchain has already been edited by consensus of the top 20 witnesses due to child pornography being inserted into it and thus being removed. This can and will happen again - it just takes the consensus of the top 20 witnesses.
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And, yes, they are inconsistent. They oppose decentralisation in communication becouse "someone could use it for childporn" (big whoop, honestly, we have reason to believe that even actual childporn may reduce rather than increase child sexual abuse https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/03/loli-anime-images-dont-lead-to-sexual-assault-against-real-children-says-danish-report/79409/ as far as im concerned, mere posession of NOTHING should be illegal, yes the article is mainly about loli but the source quoted in it does adress actual CP as well), but then they are for decentralised currency which can actualy be used to fund terrorism or buy child sex slaves.
They are typical traditionalist SJWs.
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Child pornography is essentially child abuse and intent to support it or distribute it infers participation in that.
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Child abuse is depicted in it. You dont have more of that abuse just becouse the recording exists. And thats assuming we arent talking about the selfie of a 16 year old wholl then be convicted or some shit like that.
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Anything that attempts to normalise child abuse is something that needs to be challenged. I have listened to many victims of child abuse and it tends to ruin their entire life - it is not a 'fun pass time'.
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I agree. Now the problem is that the right does exactly that, normalises child abuse by for example demonising pedophiles and lolicon. No, suffering pedophilia does not mean you will abuse children, in fact, most sexual child abusers are not pedophile (the numbers i have seen are 2 to 20% of sexual child abusers are pedophile, with the most credible sitting at 12%), most pedophiles will just go to a psychiatrist and request chemical castration. I dont know if traditionalists would just rape anyone they are attracted to (yeah they dont) or why they think suffering pedophilia has anything to do with sexual child abuse, but for the same reason that misoginist and rapist doesnt mean anything anymore, those terms are also losing their meaning thanks to the normalisation of child abuse by conservatives.
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I have no idea what you are attempting to convey here. In most people's minds, a pedophile is someone who is sexually excited by children, specifically. Abuse against children can be non sexual, but sexual abuse against children is committed by pedophiles and no-one else.
You don't know why someone would think that pedophilia is connected to child abuse? Really?
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If this would be the solution and become part of the solution, then it should be adopted immediately. I'm confident that this too will go away soon.
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Wasn't Steemit DDoS aatacked today as well? I've heard that Infowars get these types of attacks as well at times. Now, with Steemit, shouldn't DDOS be harder to pull off when there are many decentralized servers to attack as opposed to just one, only one, central server? Is Gab centralized or decentralized? But Steemit was attacked? I think the Steem blockchain was not attacked, and just Steemit.com was. I was able to visit Busy.org and I think that was during that DDOS which could mean that DDOS didn't stop Steem, the blockchain, but it did stop Steemit.com, the website, the app, the extension, the platform, of Steem. That is good. I do hope people can figure out how to save Dissenter from DDOS.
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Steem — the blockchain — is decentralised.
SteemIt — the web interface — is not.
So when SteemIt is attacked you can just use busy.org instead.
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True.
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I don't know about steemit, I haven't used it much today. DDOS tends to be targeted to specific domain names and the server than runs them gets slowed down. The Steem network is separate and would be much harder to DDOS.
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That is why Gab should do what Steem does.
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There seems to have been a lot of this going on. Steemit was down with it yesterday, I'm reading that Instagram was down at some point too. Things that make you go hmmm...
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I saw cloudflare when I logged on today.
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