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nonlinearone (65) in thunderwhale • 8 years ago (edited)

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8 years ago by nonlinearone (65)

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the-future (68) · 8 years ago

I like it

cian.dafe (41) · 8 years ago

This is flippin ( no pun intended ) awesome !
I already follow, I upvoted and retweeted .
What would be mega awesome is if there was a $5 steem dollar upgrade fee!
Upgraded members could have the potential to earn $2.50 from referrals and $2 on the referrals that there referrals bring in ! 50 cents goes to admin.
FREE members are placed in the pool AND can earn half those amounts on referrals that upgrade ;) with the remainder (minus the 50 cents admin fee) paid as a dividend to upgraded members. This will help us all get even more steem power...
Which supports the pool.
Thanks @nonlinearone , awasome idea !

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Changes in Version 0.1.2: Thank you @claudiop63 for finding this! Correct typo/mental math error in the "Effective voting power when Minnow Joe and 999 of his friends vote on different posts" (million should be billion there - note that the math was correct in Appendix A and the fundamental idea is still correct but I made the mistake of not referring to the spreadsheet when writing that section).

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ervin-lemark (71) · 8 years ago

A very good initiative. I just might work. I reblogged your article and am following both you and @thunderwhale.

So, where's the app? :))))

I will reread the post later and check the whitepaper. The idea about a decentralized app is especially attractive.

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positivesteem (70) · 8 years ago

Hopefully this will help the minnows. The whales hold too much power

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beowulfoflegend (65) · 8 years ago

Absolutely fantastic idea, I will certainly be donating some of my hard earned SBD for this project. I assume that we're welcome to donate several times over the month? I would love to reach one of the donation milestones but I'll be unable to do that in one lump sum.

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will-zewe (61) · 8 years ago

Hey not sure if anyone gives a shit, I made this post last night about getting more SP in the hands of minnows. I didn't really get a huge response on it so just out of curiousity am I out to lunch with this idea? https://steemit.com/steemit/@will-zewe/what-i-feel-can-be-tweaked-to-help-incentivize-no-users-sign-up-new-user-activity-and-most-importantly-new-user-moral

Also don't care about the value of the post itself, I just thought it was a good idea... So if anyone feels like taking a read I really do think this could help.

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virtualgrowth (72) · 8 years ago

I agree on this idea. Thinking how to give minnows more weight in relation to whales. I am a thinker but not a coder. Would love to find a way to help users in steemprentice especially new users as well as others.

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richardcrill (67) · 8 years ago

What a great idea! Maybe we could even become a kraken. Following. upvoted and resteemed. Please consider resteeming my #steemfestdreamers post to help someone win a ticket to SteemFest!

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Kraken, I like it. Power to the people ;^)

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stranger27 (61) · 8 years ago

Let's hope whales will donate this cool project :)

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ausbitbank (73) · 8 years ago

Interesting ideas, upvoted and following @thunderwhale now :)

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ellamaeamor (43) · 8 years ago

Looking forward to this project.

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mxu111 (58) · 8 years ago

Exciting. Lemme try.

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will-zewe (61) · 8 years ago

I really like this idea, I'm gonna give you a follow. I'll have to read more into it and it's late where I am, so it'll be a tomorrow night thing. But if upon further review I still like it, I'll throw 500 SP into it.

I'd also like to say I think curation rewards should be more geared towards minnows. I'm a dolphin and a small one at that and I still pull in around 50 in curation a week. When I'm super active it's over 100. I see no reason why someone with over 10,000 SP can't donate 10% or 15% all the way up to the whales giving up 30-40% perhaps? Maybe that's too high, but I feel like I would gladly give up 20% so 30-40 wouldn't be to high to ask from the biggest whales.

It wouldn't affect the whales who don't vote, and it would be even across the board percent wise.

I don't know just something I've thought could help minnows grow faster.

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officialfuzzy (75) · 8 years ago

I personallu believe this is why witesses exist...to build tools like this.

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will-zewe (61) · 8 years ago (edited)

I would love to give away some of my curation rewards, shit I'd transfer steem power to people I see keeping their power and powering up, or to people actively curating, or to people making quality posts. I'd love to give out some of my earnings, just don't have the ability yet.

I didn't get a lot of response when I made a post about this last night, am I the only one who feels like I could be alright with donating some of my rewards?

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Wow thanks @will-zewe. I'll follow you back of course. Really appreciate the kind words and willingness to contribute 500 SP after further review (totally understandable). Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

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will-zewe (61) · 8 years ago

I'm all about growing steemit, the only real issue I see is a massive wealth gap, so I figure any ways I can help mitigate that shit, I shall. If you ever want an opinion I'll be happy to give my perspective.

Looking forward to the future on this one.

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theb0red1 (66) · 8 years ago

hopefully the app will be multiplatform? A linux version would be handy :P

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Indeed :) The goal is to make it multiplatform, probably with http://electron.atom.io/ but that is to be determined. Would love everyone's feedback on the best tools though.

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claudiop63 (66) · 8 years ago

Great idea!

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Thanks Claudio :)

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cian.dafe (41) · 8 years ago

I have a group of friends doing something similar with a mobile phone app called "groupme" They simply post a link to an instagram post and then like and comment previous pposts in the group. There is a heart Icon to show that they have liked the post within the group.

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christoryan (57) · 8 years ago

Love it, upvoted, resteened, sharing until my fingers fall off! @christoph3 @mysonjosh @ballinconscious . I do have a question though, obviously it is possible to just donate a dollar per day until the 30th.. This project should easily be doable and I am excited to be part of this! Namaste~!

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Thanks and I love your enthusiasm :) Can you please rephrase your question though because I'm not sure what you were asking. Thanks!

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paws1t1veev (48) · 8 years ago

I'd be willing to donate if you had a minimum viable product.

We could have several decentralized curation systems that function by aggregating the minnows voting power. It would be a nice balance of power on the network.

I'm following, please post regular updates :)

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Version 0.1.5 diff:

@@ -265,7 +265,9 @@ Version 0.1.2: Thank you @claudiop63 for finding this! Correct typo/mental math

 Version 0.1.3: Change a typo in the abstract - in one place it said vote where it should have said post.

-Version 0.1.4: Several changes, mostly to information around funding. I added many disclaimers because where I'm at - I'd rather not even raise funding if it means people will be lined up with pitchforks and torches if this thing takes longer to build than you think it should. If you decide to support this thing at all, it's a donation plain and simple and you should expect no specific item in return.
+Version 0.1.4: Several changes, mostly to information around funding. I added many disclaimers because where I'm at - I'd rather not even raise funding if it means people will be lined up with pitchforks and torches if this thing takes longer to build or if fails or any reason whatsoever. If you decide to support this thing at all, it's a donation plain and simple and you should expect no specific item in return.
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+Version 0.1.5: Changed wording in funding disclaimer slightly.

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chitty (69) · 8 years ago

Hello @nonlinearone, this project seems to meet the criteria for a @steemfund campaign, we may help you raise some of the money required. If you want our help please contact me on steemit.chat (either by PM or on #steemfund channel).

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Wow, thanks! I will check in with you on steemit.chat when I'm able.

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chitty (69) · 8 years ago

cool, you can also find out more about @steemfund here: https://steemfund.github.io

acidpanda (57) · 8 years ago

Great idea :D

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

https://steemit.com/thunderwhale/@thunderwhale/this-is-the-official-project-thunderwhale-account

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abit (70) · 8 years ago

I'm not sure whether this project will go well when the new "curation guild" feature came, see the last sentence of https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/steem-developer-update-graphene-2-0

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nonlinearone (65) · 8 years ago

Thanks for your comment. If the steemit team bakes this sort of thing into the core code I will be rejoicing. A few questions.

Do you know if there is a writeup on the plan for curation guilds? I'd rather see that than a video discussion which seems very much less formal.

Even if a curation guild system is built into the core - what if you or I or anyone decides we don't like it?

If there were an open source app which is independent of the steem core code, people could make changes if and when they want to.

Finally, what happens if more important matters crop up? Will curation guilds be put on the back burner again?

I think since we have this decentralized system it would be great if we could have decentralized tools.

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abit (70) · 8 years ago

Sorry I don't know the plan or progress info. Perhaps you can contact @ned directly, or use the "Contact Steemit" link (click right top corner of this page, then a link near the bottom).

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the-stoned-ape (54) · 8 years ago

Brilliant idea. I've noticed the exact same problems as well as people feeling discouraged on the whole because posts and good writing takes time and effort and when people don't see that, they might leave or not believe in the platform any longer.

Upvoted and followed.

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supergoodliving (63) · 8 years ago

This sounds amazing! I would totally be interested in it! I'm still trying to understand everything here. But I think I know enough to know that this is awesome! :)

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