The Trollslayer Speaks - A Conspiracy Theory and Blockchain-Community StrategysteemCreated with Sketch.

in troll-management •  8 years ago  (edited)


Okay so the only way to slay on the Net are words and downvotes - so it's a very non-violent solution no matter how you spin it.

Heads up, y'all on the blockchain.

This is not @kevinwong writing in, but someone who wishes to remain a secret. Seriously. Alright, so I've a conspiracy theory to present to all of you humanoids, bots, meta-trolls, reptilians, and everything in between. Awesome, disruptive technologies has always been the subject of many eyes - especially from the ones with vested interests. In a world of scarcity and competitiveness, saboteurs have always been instrumental in derailing systems for gaining a competitive edge. Yes, even the word cuts so deeply. Trolls are the perfect virtual soldiers that gets the job done.

But, here's the problem.

It's difficult to distinguish real trolls. But to make it easy, here's what trolls mean, at least in the age of virtual identities, self-discovery, and increasing probability of causing great offence to any one of the 7 billion people all around the world, no matter the subject. Here's what it means:-

a person who makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online post

Yes, the definition is just that simple. Which is why I have accepted a long time ago that I may appear to be trollish to just about any stranger. Those whom I've met in-person may trust that I have no mal-intent, and I can go quite experimental with art. Here's the dig - I just don't think anybody should mind such things when it's just in form of information. In the same spirit, those one the receiving end being perceived as trolls should also not mind and make a big fuss out of others reacting within reasonable claims.

Also, add the fact that people are not perfect and may fall into deep states of trollishness without even knowing it themselves. Not that it matters to me, even if the platform has been deeply infiltrated by mal-intent trolls. The person experiencing their own reality should be the ones trying to learn about the world, and here I am, presenting some truth about the trolls. Pragmatism and what's good for business would dictate that communities on the blockchain get rid of all perceivable trolls. But of course, there's just no way to do this as it is such a complex matter.

It's better to just accept that everybody's a troll, and be desensitised by the notion that real trolls are just manifestations of everybody's inherent, temporal, and ultimately-perceived trollishness.

This way, real trolls wouldn't have any power. If you see feuds online and if it reads like incessant bashing of one another in textform - just laugh and move along. Don't feed the real / fake trolls. Whatever, it's most likely that you're wrong about trolls. Someone with actual mental illness or in distress may even seem like trolls. Or.. is there an intelligent way for a community of any size to work-around and overpower both meta-perceived and paid-professional trolls? But is there really a need to do so?

What about self-made / self-discovered professional trolls paying themselves by trolling the network? First of all, I would troll a little here and say this - what a way to get paid lol. That just shows the impressiveness of Steemit's celebration of diversity. But again, some may not even know how it can be perceived or how it may debilitate a network. Does it even matter, anyway? Maybe the day Steemit finds an upward trajectory again is when it has enough value in itself to offset this side-effect of taking things too seriously in blockchain communities. Flushing out trolls is a futile practice.

From one trollslayer (or troll?) to another, just forget about it and don't be so judgemental in every way. Treat all trolls like they're not trolls. It will drive them crazy, and that's the best way to troll (or slay) the trolls. Here's another interesting observation: trolls are born out of free-speech, and self-important critical message. Perception of trolls are also heightened by this thing that I will call a FUD-complex. It's just impossible for blockchain communities to be able to accommodate to everybody's wants and needs. Hence, a declining price will stir all sorts of emotions about one another and create a cycle of FUD but not in an intentional way of disinformation, but out of community habits of reinforcing / rewarding / conditioning behaviours.

There's nothing inherently wrong with FUD-complexes happening on blockchain communities. Sure, depending on personalities, outside investors and speculators would think of something like Steemit as garbage. But personally, I think the network just needs to learn and build more valuable stuff on the blockchain to offset this side-effect of perceived trollishness (and getting triggered), something doubly amplified when money is involved and things don't go as expected.

So here are some perhaps-pragmatic-constructive-inclusive solutions for slaying the troll-complex

  • Treat any real / fake trolls like people.

  • Try to build, not divide. Again, people will perceive things differently. Sometimes we just want to make a point about being straight-forward, and sometimes just being socially awkward. Stay in the game, keep building.

  • Employ louder, reputable, and trust-able fake trolls with an unshakeable allegiance to the network. Even if they don't know about it themselves. Hint: definitely not me. Please use the real professional fake trolls to overpower the possibility of mercenary / decoy / real / mal-intent trolls. Take control of the platform's narrative!

  • Reward stuff that will make Steemit better. Also a difficult matter because people just make poor decisions expressing themselves with edgy communication, ending up being perceived as trolls. Acceptance comes in all degrees, and I would prefer to see through superficial words and understand the heart / substance of the message. It may be as purposeless and time-wasting as professional trolls would make it out to be. That's okay, let's waste some time together. Sometimes I'll even give an upvote, sometimes a flag (only twice for me so far, but ended up opting to unflag just so the rest of the community will be able to see and weigh-in on these seemingly trollish accounts themselves)

  • Test accounts by adjusting reward levels, and study their contribution, activities, and stakes. But again, money and human beings are involved here so it's all a crapshoot. Downpowering also doesn't mean much. It could mean latent support. It could also mean fair compensation for all the time and effort spent around here. Some spend more. Some exponentially less. Some don't even care. Some are taking a piss, or just pissed about things.

  • What about whales themselves? Well.. their voting and decisions patterns may also seem quite trollish. Which is why it's best to delegate power to the right trolls so that the trollishness isn't so gigantic.

  • Simple modus operandi 1: flood the network with a mix of casual-lazy-fun work, and hard / heart work. Avoid heavily supporting any narrative about being divisive about the work of others to gain competitive edge for oneself. But again, people who care too much about the platform may even be misunderstood as trolls. Just a simple matter of pragmatic suggestions getting mixed up with frustrated, unmet expectations.

  • Simple modus operandi 2: reward those who are desensitised and don't seem to give a crap about trolls and drama llamas. Problem: generally these people are quiet about it and don't even talk about it. Asymmetry of troll's advantage here - they're just usually louder than most, it's most definitely a form of work that shows. Which is why I think guilds are still important although there's a definite need for continued evolution.

  • Simple modus operandi 3: be a positive kind of troll. Of course, it wouldn't be healthy to keep mooning for STEEM. It's better to FUD and give people a taste of reality, right? The system / network could inherently be flawed and lose people a lot of money out of mere influence and persuasion. But again, seeing that anyone should be responsible for their own thoughts and actions.. by all means it may be a better gameplan to reward positive trolls, especially those that do not forsake blunt, critical points. Yes, it will be largely understood that negative trolling should not be rewarded heftily. But it should also not be a basis for hefty punishment. Oh crap, what does positive and negative trolling even mean? Am I trolling positively here?

  • Simple modus operandi 4: spot inconsistencies and make informed decisions just for yourself.

  • Will the real professional trolls trying to destroy this platform please stand up? Please re-steem this so we can find out.

Signed,
Trollslayer


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the best tool to fight trolls is to flag them

Sure, just that i wouldn't want to slay the wrong troll.

Will the real professional trolls trying to destroy this platform please stand up? Please re-steem this so we can find out.

Ha! Good luck with that.

on a serious note: Internet attracts the worst or best people. The same happens in steemit. No middle. C'est la virtuel vie.

Reward stuff that will make Steemit better.

Subjective. what kind of contents make steemit better? We assumed it was a 1000 word post. ain't nobody got time for that

Test accounts by adjusting reward levels, and study their contribution, activities, and stakes.

Ain't nobody got time for that. sorry.

What about whales themselves? Well.. their voting and decisions patterns may also seem quite trollish.

Human brain tends to think in terms of patterns. Doesn't exist. The fact that I eat pizza everyday, it's not my pattern. I simply ... love it. Some whales simply have favorite authors and it's okay to upvote the same content creators.

In conclusion, I would say there is no way to keep quiet the trolls. You might flag, downvote. They will continue to do their trolling. Best action is ignoring them.

In conclusion, I would say there is no way to keep quiet the trolls. You might flag, downvote. They will continue to do their trolling. Best action is ignoring them.

No... don't ignore me..

All other points: yes, it's all a crapshoot lol

not ignoring you. simply troll managing you LOL :P

Troll University @ Steemit : Making Blockchain-Communities Stronger

my all time favorite
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Someone in Steemit has quite an understanding of the internet then.. I'd wager that it's sneak? :)

It's the official twitter account of Steemit hahahahahahahaha

BOOM. (i knew it)

Just recently I have suspicions that I was perceived as troll by @builderofcastles. Check out my comments.

I slayed troll @whitezombie and he has been absent from the platform ever since, again check comments. Especially his.. https://steemit.com/@whitezombie/comments

I also keep ousting the ever diminishing troll @orenashani7 for giving his bullshit introduction to how to troll, he calls it journalism with his agenda of classism denial, outright liar and support anything the zionist whore Israel does.
Also I have ousted a big ugly troll whale, for his 0.03% voting power votes, gestural bullshit votes, a liar and a blacklist supporter, as well as ilovetrash supporter.
I don't quit or back down, aequitas.
I also took on @themasses for their troll anon account as they were arguing that pizzagate pedogate is used to normalize pedophilia, and they concluded that to beat the elite you must think like a pedophile scumbag elite. They have another account... @trolling and are neutralized.
You can call me the trollminator, I don't see the value in villainous assholes and instigating non-thoughts for the community, but I understand what this post is saying:
Come together. It's a nice sentiment, and I will be the last person you'll ever accuse of polarizing, or dividing, but my ethos lives through the art of war, so understand that it might be pragmatic to challenge me, but then again the only way to get better is by playing a better opponent, so step up :-0

The steem platform

Hey Trollminator..

Yes, I'm always glad some people are exercising flags. My type isn't suited to go against those who are really taking advantage and exploiting the platform. Just try not to slay the innocent ones. But it happens, I guess..

Signed,
Trollslayer.

I don't flag trolls, I call out their fallacious logic and beat them down with truth, not gently or excessively but purely out of sympathy for their plight.

@fallaciouslogichunter

Lol. I can see why it can be serious business..

Especially, to live in a world of contradictions, or to be an outright hypocrite, like @karenmckersie (which thought it ok to call me a crackhead twice by asking if I smoke crack, right after she said that she never called anybody names, plus the fact that she supports flagging for removing rewards @craig-grant infuriatingly retarded video blog post, then says she supports @krnel) is in my opinion as sad of an existence as it gets, unexmained of why one is alive isn't even close to that self deceit some are stuck in, self-discovery is a must in today's world, no doubt, but to live under false pretenses I believe is as far from living as you can get, that is unless that is the only way you can exist, which is understandable but hell, unless you're a major threat to national security like a wistleblower.

congratulations on upgrading your steem power

I guess that everybody has a battle with themselves :)

The unexamined life is indeed a life not lived. Just ask any university philosophy graduate! @fullyexaminedmindhunter

@craig-grant, you're giving me congratulations? No thank you.
@trollslayer, I'll take that to mean We are all one, and we are only as strong as our weakest link
@mindhunter was just skimming over the dissertation for a PHD in philosophy http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4928&context=etd I don't ascribe to the charade of higher learning, but I applaud any person who seeks self knowledge ;)

Oh yes, words can be quite a tool for slaying as well.

hence sWords.

In regard to innocent ones, considering that plants can and do sing (go ahead and do a cursory internet search) and have exhibited consciousness (fear, compassion) anybody who lives is not nearly as innocent as they believe, but in this context of those uninformed or simply ignorant/stupid that I might mow down in their dim perspective or shut up their opinionated assholes I always exercise the benefit of doubt. Unless you're name is @coldmonkey and you make a ridiculous and emotional attacking remark about polio and leg braces, then you get no play.

In any society, group or online community there are some people that are possibly capable of being truly difficult to relate and to communicate because their motive is to block, create anger, or disrupt communication.
Internet studies relate the traits of personality of a troll with Narcissism, Psychopathy, Machiavellism or Sadisms, but I suspect that these people suffered some kind of trolling in their early education.
In my experience, I always found that 3% of my clients were always difficult, and the good action is to try to get rid of them because they are clients "below-zero" that only make trouble, make you lose money and waste your time that you should give to the other good clients.
So in any social group, there is always a normal distribution of 3% difficult people to deal with and on the other side 3% of exceptional people to engage in communication.

Yup, wrote a paper about it in my pre-u days, although I certainly didn't foresee blockchain communities in which stakes are involved, which certainly changed the dynamics in influence etc. I just can't find it after so long, lost in another laptop with some satoshis. There's certainly no stopping anyone, and imo I think I've never seen such high occurrences of accounts that jump into conversation and start being judge dredd on an otherwise seemingly normal accounts. Well maybe it's been happening much more on FB etc, but maybe I just couldn't take them all that seriously since it's not even a game lol..

An excellent deep dive troll-analysis by the Wongster! IMPRESSED :) Upvoted and RS.

Who's a wongster? It's trollslayer here .. saying thanks :)

You definitely should have been the @trollhunter. Peace and love. @mindhunter

So this is the BRIDGE where all the TROLLS are hiding under...

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