So when tribes were first announced I was really excited. Around that time there were tons of back to back announcements of new developments and products. Of all of it though the thing that got me most excited was Nitrous.
It's been a minute, but in the past I've done my fair share of mountain top screaming about the REAL problem with Steem being the user experience. I was so excited about Nitrous because there was talk about adding additional features to Condenser. In my opinion, this is sorely needed and THE MAIN reason for Steems stagnation. More than the economics, although that was a big problem as well. More than Steemit selling, more than bidbots, or whatever your favorite thing is to blame. Mine is the user experience on every Steem application.
Which again is why I was so excited by Nitrous. When tribes started popping up and they all were just slower buggier versions of Steemit with filtered content, I didn't really care because they were brand new, gotta give em some time, no biggie, but it's been a minute, and there have been updates, but nothing that really changes the user experience or gives me any sort of reason to actually use the tribe sites.
Quickly after tribes were born Steempeak integrated them into their site. Not only that, but they are literally THE ONLY site where you can get a quick snapshot of all of your rewards on a post in one view. It's not a secret that Steempeak has the best UX for a Steem frontend currently, so what reason do I have to ever go to a tribe site?
This becomes even more important now that ads are in the picture and what that tells me is that even though we're all on the same team to a point, there needs to be competition for those eyeballs, which brings me to the main point of this post.
If you are not offering anything exclusive to your site, your site has no reason to exist.
Currently the only function of the sites is to act as a filter for the content associated with that tag, but as I mentioned, if that's all you want you can view it on Steempeak, and have a better experience while still getting that same function. As a stakeholder of tribe tokens, this is kinda poopy.
So I didn't write this post ONLY to bitch, that's not my style. I want to urge tribe founders to think hard about what they can offer in the user experience of their site that will fit their individual genre and make sense exclusively for them. As you can see in the image above, I've prepared examples.
So let's start with LEO, it's all about investing, but probably 99% of the people posting there are mostly interested in investing in Crypto, of that 99% probably 90% of that are interested in Steem and tribes as well. Currently there is no place where you can get charts for tribe tokens that show the tokens performance over their full timeline. I think that would be incredibly valuable to the community. It would give people a source of content since there are so many would be TA specialists in the community. Imagine if the Steem Leo frontend was the first and only place where you could access that info, but you could also get info about other crypto as well. This is the sort of thing I'm talking about. This is something that makes sense exclusively for Leo, matches their genre and merges seamlessly with their content. It would give me a reason to go to and use that site.
Ripped from Artstation.com + a few Steemians
So these are just examples to illustrate my point not necessarily firm ideas for features. That caveat stated, for CCC, what if it was more focused on visuals. I know all the content there isn't visual, but I think proportionally it's probably higher than most other tribes. I may be biased as an artist, but I also think this could just set it apart from other sites and at a glance let you know what sort of site this is.
When thinking about what PAL could add, I wondered if there was an embeddable Discord widget and of course there was, several actually. So while I think this would be a nice addition to PAL, honestly I think it would be good for just about every tribe since it would allow us to use discord like most of us do already but stay on the site. Again, with ads, you DON'T want to send people away from your site.
So these are just some quick ideas I came up with tonight, I just want you fine folks to really think about this. I'm not trying to poo poo all over your stuff, I want to help make it better.
If you're a user here on Steem and you're holding some tribe tokens let me know what you think in the comments, would some features like I've mentioned here make you more inclined to use tribe sites, are they things you'd like to see? Maybe I'm crazy and just in my own little bubble.
These are all solid ideas and we'll worth considering for anybody with a tribe. I expected them to improve on the basic design as time went on but a lot of them haven't added much extra to it. Palnet could embed their msp-radio radio feed to the page which has a schedule of programmes while you browse. Sportstalk could have fixtures or live scores on the side when your in football or rugby catagories.
One of the sites that I love and it's not a tribe is travelfeed.io as they have made a great interface for their app and a new way to on board directly from their site. The possibilities are there to do more and I can see the future for these sites.
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Thanks @niallon11. Yea I wish more projects would follow travelfeed's model. Just making a site isn't enough, you have to create something people want to use.
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I think they will. Success breeds success and if they can show a way to onboard users and give them a good experience then i can see others following that model. It's the nature of innovation.
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No I think its a really great idea. I co run www.naturalmedicine.io and I would LOVE an idea or tech know how to integrate a widget to make it worth visiting. One of the reasons to post on the sites, for the tribe you align with, is for SEO and a pull toward steem via a interest specific front end. For us, its the wellness community. Just doing what we can do to do our bit for Steem. If you have any ideas for us, reach out. We are all in this together
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Further to this (I'm part of the same Tribe), a way to integrate some kind of plugin or module for integrated online learning (kinda like Teachable, or something like that). And a direct way to purchase, send, or receive the SCOT token.
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I've been advocating for a donation feature forever. A way to transfer tokens and have it be associated with a post or a comment. I also like the idea of an integrated learning plugin.
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Thanks @riverflows. So as I mentioned above I think one idea that could work across all tribes is embedding your discord channel in the tribe site. This would allow people to "hang out" on your site even if they're not posting at that moment.
I think another thing that could help is a featured page where the owners/founders could hand pick some of the best content and have that be the first thing people see. Those are sort of generic ideas as I don't personally know much about that content specifically.
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I wish i knew how to do that! As for featured posts, we do that, unless we mean different things?
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Agree with your observations and suggestions.
At the moment tribes are just pale copies of pale steemit interface. Just with different whales and circlejerks.
But token prices? Don't even ask about that.
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Exactly, and I think the prices are deserved at this point. What is the purpose of holding them? To earn more? That's not compelling when the price is just falling. I think ads are a solid way to bring in value, but you've got to do something to compete with the rest of the internet for people's attention.
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Charts like this :)
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Very cool, I think I saw these when you first posted them. I just wish there was a site I could go to and get live updates.
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Yes agreed .... I think soon we will have something like this .... I'm surprised it is not done yet.
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Hello, @midlet. I agree with what you have said. Are you a UI/UX designer? I'd like to work with you to improve the project I am currently working on.
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You make perfect sense.
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I like what you are saying and agree with you. I have taken a deep dive into the tribes and noticed a couple of things that make it worth posting from their interface. The main one is for SEO value. Because of duplicate content issues when trying to rank your post in google for whatever reason you may be trying to do so, Steemit will defer the link juice to the tribe interface. So posting on @steem.leo will be the recognized first content in the eyes of google. But, if you post on steemit, steemit gets that honor and the leo post will be duplicate. That will be important in the long run for steem and the tribes. The second reason, and this is for @steem.leo in particular is that if you post directly from their interface @leo.voter will upvote your post in both steem rewards and leo rewards. That is flying under the radar at the moment but it shows that steem.leo is trying to add value for its users.
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I use all the time the SteemLeo interface.
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These are all very good ideas. Each tribe will need a site that serves their own purpose, especially when SMT is introduced.
There is no easy way for them to customize their nitrous site now, so eventually, I think these tribes might just build their own site from scratch.
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They can customize them, I just don't think many have the know how.
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One thing tribe interfaces are good for besides filtering is logging in and staying logged in with the specific alt without switching between accounts, for those who have alts for each tribe (I generally don't).
But that is, like filtering, a detail, and it's important tribes do come up with their own identity, user experience, features and benefits. Well pointed out in your post!
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I have alts for CCC, PAL, and LEO and I do use them for this. It's a little time saver.
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I couldn't agree more. Most of the tribes are completely pointless. It's basically an expensive hashtag and a forum.
If the tribes don't innovate they are done.
I hope & think a lot are just waiting for SMTs before they really invest money into websites.
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