@utopian-io - Analysing 'spam' comments - 'nice post', 'good post', 'follow me'

in utopian-io •  7 years ago  (edited)

How many of these comments are made? How many are upvoted and down-voted? And who are the popular authors and voters of such 'nice comments'?

This is an analysis with an aim to find out if there is any benefit or not to making one of the short, spam-like comments mentioned in the title of this post, namely 'nice post', 'good post', and 'follow me'.

Contents

General / Assumptions

  1. Six month counts

  2. Success/Fail (upvote/down-vote) rate of the comments anaylsed

  3. Popular authors / voters

  4. Summary Analysis

  5. Tools used to gather data and compile report



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General

In section 1, the previous 6 months data is gathered.

For the remainder of the report, the previous 30 days only have been assessed. This is due to the load generated (and time taken) while executing such queries against SQL Server.

The comment length queried has been limited to 25 characters (chars) to also reduce load, and catch comments such as 'nice post, upvoted', 'follow me i follow you', and exclude longer comments which may include the words 'nice post'.

The vote counts do not include the self-voting of comments to aid in the assessment of if 'another user' is likely to upvote such a comment.

Not included in the analysis is the payouts/sizes of any votes issued.


1. Six month counts

In this section, a presentation of the growth of the analysed comments over the past six months.

Nice Post

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As the chart indicates, we have had a substantial rise in comments of less than 25 characters containing 'nice post' over the past 6 months, which for January 2018 are double what they were for August 2016. September and December buck the rising trend which raises an eyebrow, but generally this comment is on the rise.

Good Post

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Excluding November 2016, we have seen a rise in the comment 'good post' month on month and for January 2018, the number is almost 4 times the total of August 2016.

Follow Me

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Although there are approximately 50% more 'follow me' comments when comparing January 2018 to August 2017, the chart/numbers are perhaps the most varied of the 3 comments analysed across the 6 month dataset.


2 Success/Fail (upvote/down-vote) rate of the comments anaylsed

In the section, a look at the likelihood of receiving a vote or not for the comments analysed.

Nice Post

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Of the 11711 comments made totalling 25 characters or less which included the text 'nice post', 24% of these received an upvote - about 1 in 4. This 'success rate' is reduced to just over 1 in 5 when you include the number of downvotes such comments received.

Good Post

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Of the 8517 comments made totalling 25 characters or less which included the text 'good post', 52% of these received an upvote - just over half. Only 90 of these comments received a down-vote, just over 1%.

Follow Me

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Of the 1976 comments made containing the words 'follow me', over three quarters (81%) of these comments did not receive a vote. This percentage is increased to 83% when you include the 2% likelihood of a downvote when making this comment.

Summary

A comment made of 25 characters or less including the text 'follow me' is seemingly far less likely to receive a an upvote than a comment of equal length containing the words 'good post'.

A particular large percentage of comments containing 'good post' are being upvoted. This seems to be the best of the 3 comments to use when seeking a vote, but as section 3 highlights, their could be other factors not shown here.


3. Popular authors / voters

The final section takes a brief look at the accounts doing the voting on the comments analysed, and the accounts receiving these votes.

Are the votes widely spread, or is there an obvious group of accounts issuing the votes?

Nice post

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The table above seems to show that 3 accounts are receiving the majority of the votes for the comment 'nice post'. It's interesting to find that the top 5 entries have been voted exactly 38 times by 5 different accounts.

Follow me

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A much wider spread of votes on comments 'follow me', however, one account appears 9 times in the first 20 records.

Good post

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Perhaps the most interesting set of data in this section goes to the comment 'good post'. The analyst shall remain impartial to the data displayed and let the reader decide what is happening here!


4. Summary Analysis

Each comment analysed has seen growth over the past 6 months, from 50% ('follow me') to almost 400% ('good post').

The percentage of upvotes for each of the 3 comments is higher than I expected, particularly for the comment 'good post'.

However, the data presented in the 3rd section of the report may well indicate the presence of 'sock puppet' accounts or voting circles, which is likely to be the reason for these higher than expected figures.

Also, the number of down-votes issued for these comments is not as high as expected, and this seems to show a high level of tolerance towards such 'low quality' comments. Perhaps the general community is opting to mute or ignore such comments instead of acting upon them.

To conclude, it is of the analysts opinion that too many votes are being issued to these 'spam-like' comments. However, a large proportion of these votes seem to be coming from and going to a concentrated set of accounts.


5. Tools used to gather this data and compile report

The data is sourced from SteemSQL - A publicly available SQL database with all the blockchain data held within.

The SQL queries to extra to the data have been produced in both SQL Server Personal Edition and LINQPAD 5.

Example code

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The charts used to present the data were produced using MS Excel.


This data was compiled on the 9th February 2018 at 11 am (UCT)

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Good post!

(This should be the best choice according to your analysis -unfortunately the utopian template alone makes me exceed the 25 char limit) .

Amazing work! The results are really interesting, I would not have expected so many upvotes on comments like this. The payout of thoses would play a certain role as well when drawing conclusions. As a 15 SP user you're probably happy about any reaction you get on your post and "reward" that as well.

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Thanks @crokkon!

Perhaps Steemit should introduce a minimum limit of comment text also?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice post! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That should do the trick :D

I suspect the votes are heavily skewed by sock-puppet/2nd (3rd/4th/5th..) accounts, and as you know this data is pretty tricky to get a handle on.

Still, the number of down-votes compared to no votes seems low - although I generally just ignore these comments myself and so perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised.

Cheers!

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

...immediately after posting this, a lot of the people just rushed in and written/commented with A LOT of the text! lol

But I do like your post - being new to Steemit, I am trying to "find my way" into community and indeed, seen a lot of the comments you referd to earlier.

You just "gained" yourself another follower! :)

Cheers,
Adrian
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wow, very interesting analysis! Didn't expect that there are such grave differences between "nice post" and "good post". The fact that for "good post!" an upvote is more likely could explain why the prevalence of this type of comment has grown in the last half year by 400%, unbelievable!
Of course, voting circles might play a role here. This would require social network analysis.
CU,
Chris aka smallstepschange

Yes there is a sizable difference, but if you look at the author of such 'good comments', there is clearly something amiss here!

Of course, voting circles might play a role here. This would require social network analysis.

Agreed :)

Would be interesting, how many of such posts are made by automated bots.

Each comment analysed has seen growth over the past 6 months, from 50% ('follow me') to almost 400% ('good post')

THIS is a staggering number/percentage!

The follow me/follow you mentality gets just as old as the nice post, good job... or the combination of the previous two in the good post comment or the wonderful very informative, my friend.

Thank you @goldendawne

I think we've become immune to these types of comments - I barely notice them these days, although will admit to voting the odd one, particularly in my 'early days'.

Thanks for stopping by, I hope you are kicking comment ass this week :D

So you are saying if I included “good post” in my comment that author will be so over joyed they might just give me an upvote? Hehe. I guess I’m not really shocked. People spend a lot of time creating content and any kind of positive feedback tends to be more welcomed then not even when its short form or spam.

This is one list I never want be top of! I do on occasion in a satire kind of way to start off with the for mentioned comments. Always sad getting to a bottom of a blog and just seeing sea of spam. I only do that with people who know I HATE those kinds of comments and I’m just mocking it.

Those December drops are really interesting. Makes me wonder if those kind of accounts changed up tactics. I have noticed a little more “effort” is put into some of these spam comments. They still copy/paste but they try and appear to be as vague as possible while still trying get an upvote out of it.

I have come across a couple of people in past few months where I had to go check their comments just to confirm that it was a copy/paste and they were just targeting a certain tag.

I knew some of them where getting upvote once in a while but even at 24%+ successes rate I can see why some of them are going this route.

I have in the past even attempted a couple of times to interact with a spammer. Few times they wanted to argue they were not spam, or they never even reply back. Some of them centrally seem to be human. I suspect some of them live in a low living cost country where $1-2 a day is the living cost. It's a shame they don't realize there are better ways to make way more then that here and they are just tossing it down the drain.

I really am not shocked there are group like mentally forming around this kind of thing. These kind of people tend to have certain kind of "ethics" in how they wish to behave here. Once in a while I have run into some kind of “collative” that will go around trying recruit people into such nonsense.

Thanks for the great comment, this is more like it!

Those December drops are really interesting. Makes me wonder if those kind of accounts changed up tactics.

I think it was December when I started noticing the unrelated, longer spam-like comments, and the copy/pasting of other replies.

I dislike those even more and have flagged what I've noticed, so perhaps normal 'good post' service was resumed the following month!

Once in a while I have run into some kind of “collative” that will go around trying recruit people into such nonsense.

That is disappointing to learn, I'd be tempted with some flags there!

Some of them centrally seem to be human. I suspect some of them live in a low living cost country where $1-2 a day is the living cost. It's a shame they don't realize there are better ways to make way more then that here and they are just tossing it down the drain.

Totally agree here. Just one 'good post' (ops!) has the potential to earn more than a 1000 crap comments!

I've added you to my feed as I like cats, the idea of time traveling, and excellent comments 😁

There was a $1m delegation out to @spaminator a couple of days ago from central, and another $0.5m added to @steemcleaners. Time for this kind of spam to be running scared!

Great work on the identification of the accounts involved too!

That's some fat delegations!

It seems @mrdelegation means business now he can see that progress is being made to identify the tripe.

The account lists weren't the original goal, but I thought I'd include (without @'s) incase the accounts mentioned by you fancied taking a look :)

Cheers!

I usually try and go through all of my comments and leave a decent reward for people who actually bother to write a few sentences and who obviously have read and have an opinion on what I've posted.

I also try to scale the votes so the better comments (in my opinion) rise to the top and I leave the "good post" "good job" "nice" etc alone. Maybe each time I get one of these spammy replies I should say "nice reply", then go to that person's account and copy and paste "nice reply" on their 10 most recent spam comments. Maybe a nicer way of teaching a lesson than flagging?

I agree these spammy comments shouldn't get votes but somehow they do. I don't really like downvoting people unless they really piss me off so usually I'll just ignore the spam. But that in itself may be me being part of the problem. Perhaps we should all be a bit more proactive in educating new users that this isn't how you earn / interact on steemit. For flagrant abusers who appear to have multiple accounts set up to upvote their own spammy comments I think downvotes are in order.

My favorite of all time is still "pls upvode me". That was left on one of my wife's posts months ago and we still joke about it. There's more of a story to it and it's pretty funny but I'm getting into dissertation territory here with the length of my comment so I'll stop.

Happy friday to you.

then go to that person's account and copy and paste "nice reply" on their 10 most recent spam comments. Maybe a nicer way of teaching a lesson than flagging?

haha, do they then reply and upvote their comment? :D

The laying of comments is something I try to do also, although it can get a bit out of hand like today!

I agree that lack of action on blatant spam is perhaps not the best way to act, but also there is merit in ignoring the rubbish and using your vote on content that's worth it too.

"pls upvode me".

of crs sir!

Hello, @abh12345!
Excellent work, and although you did not write @ before accounts, I confess that I looked through some accounts.
Before writing any of my comments, I carefully read the messages. But poor knowledge of English sometimes leads me. I use an interpreter and double-check it several times. But I wrote several sentences without checking, believing that they accurately reflect what I had in mind. And as a result, I made a big mistake, adding instead of Upvoted and resteemed - Upvote and resteem. And then I was surprised why my comments were ignored.

Ahh!

Yes there is a huge difference in what you you are tying to say and what is being said there!

The translator has worked well for the above comment, and I commend you for taking the time and effort to do this in order to engage at a 'higher level'.

Thank you!

Yes, now I do not trust myself. Only through a translator. And after I realized my mistake, I went through all my messages and corrected. However, some comments for adjustments were not available.

Yes there is a 7 day limit.

As least you have put in the time to improve your comments, which should put you in a better place going forward. Good luck!

Thank you

Holy s***! Today seems to be the day of number games. This is the third post in 30 mins I´m reading, that has so many statistics in it, that my head is already spinning. 😀
I hate these "begging comments" as much as everyone, but in respect of my VP, I just can´t downvote all of them - so the only real option is to ignore them and carry on.

haha :D

Yes I have to agree and for the majority I just ignore, but for the type of comment below (flagged), I have taken action due to the nature of the comment and the fact she(he?) is a repeat offender!

Thanks for checking the post out, maybe time to lay down or change 'tags' for some photography? :D

haha Yes, I was thinking of going back to bed, because I already outsmarted myself in trying to solve some "higher math" problems regarding the value of STEEM and SBD. 😂

Nice post. Follow me. Just kidding! 😂 Excellent work in analysing these comments! I'm starting to get the hang of figuring out the difference between spam comments, and comments that are made by people with poor English. It can be tough sometimes though. :)

Had to be one! :D

Yes you raise a valid point, sometimes the level of English can make the comment seem like spam. You would hope to see an effort and use of the translator as apposed to the easy to learn 'nice post' approach though. Cheers!

A great one I've seen in the past is someone taking my entire comment, changing a few of the words, and then upvoting themselves so they appear higher in the comment thread in order to collect a "reward". No idea if any form of fuzzy matching could detect this though.

I'm seeing this more and more too. Those irk me more than 'nice post' actually, but are much harder to programmatically find as spam. These comments imo should be flagged by whoever spots them.

Cheers for your input!

Every day we can read the stats that amount of Steemit users is growing, amount of posts and comments is growing but no one cares about the quality.
These questions become actual last days, and it's great that there are people who ask them. If we want to move forward, add value to our platform and currency, if we want to overtake and surpass Reddit or Facebook by popularity, such issues should be discussed, not ignored.

And it would be interesting to see the analysis on the actual amount of plagiarism (copy / paste) and the reaction of Steemcleaners and Cheetahs on it. (Yes, I know, it's technically impossible). For some reason, it seems to me that the % of downvotes would be about the same, 1.5-2%. Because when you look at all our new posts and you see that about 1/3 of them are copy / paste or post / farm, and then you read the report of Steemcleaners, where there are about 200 links and only 5-10% of them received flags, you see a clear discrepancy between the data and reality.

You can see that many accounts are created specially for a post/comment farming. They milk Busy, Dmania and Minnowsupport with a copy / pasted images and articles. Unfortunately, we have high level of tolerance, and the creation and identification of quality content, as it is written in the Steem White Paper, has long ceased to be the goal of our community.

Thanks for taking the time to write this comment @erikaflynn

amount of Steemit users is growing, amount of posts and comments is growing but no one cares about the quality.

I think some do care, but clearly others don't.

@steemcleaners and the other anti-spam accounts have a very tough job, they have been overwhelmed for the past two months. I was told you can send accounts to @steemcleaners and receive a bounty for reporting them, I guess we should all try to do this more.

Steem inc. has recently delegated to @steemcleaners and @spaminator and so you can see they are aware of the issue - hopefully we can see an improvement in future.

Magnificent analysis. After this article, I will no longer write comments of 25 or fewer characters.

Великолепный анализ. После этой статьи я больше не буду писать комментарии на 25 и меньше символов.

Thanks @cranium!

Sometimes short and sweet is all you need, but I guess if you continually repeat the same short comment this will not look so good. Cheers!

Well this does says a lot of people are still in that world of trying to gather easy rewards when there is a plethora of articles/posts from many esteemed Steemians of NOT TO DO such posts/comments. It would be interesting to understand how the flow of such population exist and with those 700K users how many such users go away, becomes dead and that pool of such users remains constant or is continuously growing over time. Though the number of people may definitely be growing in Steemit, it will be great to understand somehow, how many adding value to the platform are increasing in comparison to such users here for easy rewards. Also, is Cheetah/Steemcleaners not active anymore?

Your comments do sound like the conversations that can turn into an analysis post. We have the data, so just need the criteria and goal :)

Also, is Cheetah/Steemcleaners not active anymore?

I didn't hear otherwise, I think Steemcleaners / @spaminator is.

Cheers!

Hi Asher, I’m Mello from team BeeYOU. Your blog stuck a note with me. It had logical flows and definitive supporting evidences. The information captivated me from beginning to end. I even read 90% of your replies to gain more insight. I commend you for your achievement in gaining my attention for ~30 minutes because I have a very short attention span for boring content. My reply is: in every society, there needs to be good and bad forces. You helped identify how we (the good) can combat (the bad) “sock-puppets” or abusers of the Steemit reward system who offer bad content.

I am no expert in what is good content and what is bad content, but I am an expert in knowing what I like and do not like to read. What captivates me is data, but more importantly, interpretations of raw data sets. I love when I am presented a et and asked to “make sense of this”. Best of all, I love to tell the stories that I see from these sets. Some stories are meaning and enlightening, while others are just plain and simple. I tell as I see it.

You stuck a note with me because I haven’t concentrated this work for quite some time. It was and has always been one my loves in life to discover the nuggets of information when I dive into a new raw data set. Lately though, my career has been more focused on developing self service BI applications and data models to help super users and analysts to self discover their own stories. Your blog is pulling me toward getting back to ground level where I would make my own discoveries and sharing the meaningful nuggets to the Steemit community as you have through this post.

You stated at the end of your post “please do contact me or any of the #blockchainbi team and we will do our best to help you.” I would really like to be a part of the development team.

*Forgive me for all the misspelling and grammatical errors of this reply. This is the 18th hour of my day and I just really wanted to reply before my thoughts subsided.

Hello there :)

Thanks for the comments, I'm glad you found the post of interest and 's pulling me toward getting back to ground level where I would make my own discoveries'.

It was and has always been one my loves in life to discover the nuggets of information when I dive into a new raw data set.

This is what I enjoy too. It sounds like you could have a skill to provide to utopian also with the BI and data modelling background.

If you wish to use discord (chat), you can find the #blockchainbi team there: https://discord.gg/AraNAQY

Cheers!

Thanks. I will carve out some time this weekend to visit the group chat. I appreciate the invite and am excited to learn how I can add value to utopians.

Great, I hope there are people present when you arrive!

I really want to be a wise-ass and just write good post, follow me I follow you, but for the sake of not figuring in any of your "spam-like" comment charts, I'm going to force myself to write a few sentences!

Actually, this is really interesting data! How you compiled this and presented in such a clear way beats me; but it's very scientific and did contribute quite a bit of valuable analysis!

Can we draw any conclusions about who these commenters are? Is there some kind of odds where we can safely say about 1 out of 2 of these comments is probably a spam-account, while the other half would be genuine new users who have not really familiarized themselves yet with this platform and the various goals and ends being pursued by the larger community?

I'm specifically interested in what a "sock-puppet" account is, who is using them, how they are using them, for what end (well, we can probably figure that out), etc.

I assume people have found a way to make decent money simply spamming on the blockchain... Would I be wrong about that?

Seems like any good scientific report, your findings raise more interesting questions than it answered!

Good work! Nice post! Follow me I follow you my friend!

Hehe Thanks 😁

Looking at these accounts, especially the top ones listed above, they seem to be in a voting circle/be sock puppets and should probably be reported to spaminator.

They aren't earning much by doing this, but it's the poor Steeming which is irritating to me.

Thanks for the lengthy comment, I've added you to my feed.

Cheers!

Wow, I wouldn't even know how to go about getting all this info. Good tools to find out those people that aren't very good Steemit members.

Takes a bit of work but it's worth it if @utopian-io like it!

If you can think of something you'd like to know, I'll take a look if its not too inflammatory!

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I actually feel a bit sorry for the 'good post' guy. He's clearly making a lot of effort and getting next to no reward for irritating people. These are probably the desperate efforts of someone from a poor background:

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While annoying, and actually quite interesting to see the lengths people go to... at least it's not doing us any real harm, unlike the kind of abuse that 'H' n 'Ranch' and Sweet J do every day, at least according to some analysis I've seen elsewhere!

Yeah the $ impact is small, but as this guy seems to be farming with his alt. accounts it doesn't look good. As you say, the H and jolly rancher brigade are stirring a much bigger pot!

Interesting!!! That "good post" comment only works if you're called mahdiehawkeye though, does it? ;)

I don't know why I do analysis posts and you don't as this is an excellent finding! :D :D :D

Well it was literally written all over it 😄

The summary of commenters and upvoters for good post baffles me as to how one single user could received almost 2000 upvotes from almost the same set of upvoters. Well, I'll definitely go check that blog out.

I think this is a clear multiple account / sock puppet account issue.

This is a very serious issue
Nice post is a general comment which to sends a signal that the individual's never actually read that post
This can be very disheartening to say the least
Maybe it's because they know some people give upvotea to comments and makes them not to settle to write comments
My suggestion is that since in actual sense they need upvote for their comment, we can just give them a flagging
Orientation is also needed in this platform if we truly want to learn and grow
Thanks @abh12345 for raising this issue

Thanks for the reply, I agree with your points.

So nice is better than good as per this report? :) A big reason why Steemians do so is that they don't read the post at all and just want to be in top comments in pursuit of getting an upvote from the author. This is wrong plan because there are bright chances that you get no upvote at all rather can invite trouble and thus can get a downvote. I'm not a spam and rather have written commenting guides for noobs still I got downvoted once for a link comment and second time it was misunderstanding. I think we can't get 100% results from Steemians by making them do the right (engaging) comments but we can definitely mitigate the overall negative environment by educating them. I plan to keep writing more guides in this regard. Very good and nice report @abh12345 :)

Good plan with the guides, in some cases is it lack of education on the platform.

Thanks @ugetfunded!

Thanks for this analysis @abh12345

I keep wondering why some will not have time to read through a post and just comment "nice post" or' good post" and will still be rewarded for that.
If is so easy to do that, then there is no need of spending much time reading a post.

It is heart broken to see someone that just shared the experience of the death of his father and someone will just slide to the post and comment "nice post".

Those that are committed in doing this should face the consequence in order to reduce the chart from increasing every month.

It is heart broken to see someone that just shared the experience of the death of his father and someone will just slide to the post and comment "nice post".

You are quite correct, when the comment is so out of context like that then I would certainly issue a flag.

Thanks for your comments @funkylove

nice po... er i mean.... Great job! ;)

I've noticed comments on the rise across the board as your data suggests, but I've also noticed a higher percentage of even those being spam posts, even those more than 25 characters- the copy/pasters are just as bad

😁 thank you!

The copy pasters irritate me even more!

Good post, much information, I look like that guy so you need to follow me

Hahaha

I am starting to get those comments the moment I publish my post and I developed a rather nasty habit of looking at their comment history.

As much as I want to flag them I have tiny VP and it would be better utilized in upvoting good content.

However when I do see multiple instances then i report to SteemCleaner and get myself a good bounty haha.

Fighting the spammers one comment at a time so the bandwidth can be allocated to more deserving accounts starting out.

I wasn't aware you could gain a bounty, thanks for the info :)

It's certainly a tough choice between upvoting good content and flagging poor efforts, especially with limited SP.

I read a recent report from @miniature-tiger that suggested things were improving so lets hope this is the case :)

Yeah my target is to get to 2 - 4 SP a week for reporting these spammers hahaha and since I see them all around when I do my commenting rounds I get to report about 2-3 accounts a day.

Not a bad side earner! Feel free to report the obvious ones above.

I hate spam comments. It's very annoying when someone says follow me. People should stop saying because its their wish whether they follow you or not.

Absolutely.

Its seems the majority of people choose just to ignore these comments, maybe if we all issued a few more downvotes they would decrease, or not!

May be (to some extent), some learn their lesson by gaining downvote. But I saw some steemians still doing spam comments even though they has 0, 10 , 15 reputation.

I think most spam comments are from the accounts with low rep.

You're just reading my mind! This is exactly what I wrote in the comments to your previous post! " I have already written, that there is some discrepancy: I want to write a lot of comments, but my SP does not allow me this, because there is a limit. And then I thought, maybe you don't need to write so many comments? It's great, if the comments are competent and informative , and if not? What's their point? I don't want to offend anyone by these words and don't mean anyone on your list, but this week I've seen a lot of posts on the topic of spammers and similar comments, and I thought about it."

Are you receiving a 'bandwidth exceeded' error?

Yes, I get this error every day for two weeks

So many analyses seem ultimately skewed, or corrupted, by bot activity. Analyses like these are important to find that corruption. But it sure makes it difficult to evaluate things for the average folks on the platform!

Indeed it does, hopefully the anti-spam accounts can get on top of this in the future.

Interesting stats and unlikely to deter the spammers unfortunately, quite the opposite.

I hope Steemit put in some kind of automated checker at some point as it starts to get really frustrating when you want to really engage with people and you have to read through half a dozen or more of these the get to the real comments nestled in between.

I guess if downvotes didn't use up one's power these graphs would look a little different!

One other thing I have noticed is that new users quite often think these comments are legitimate and thank the damn spammers!!

I guess if downvotes didn't use up one's power these graphs would look a little different!

True, but can you imagine the abuse of flags were 'free'?!

One other thing I have noticed is that new users quite often think these comments are legitimate and thank the damn spammers!!

Yes others have mentioned this, and you can't blame the newer users for appreciating even a short comment.

Good point about the down votes.

Something will have to be done though otherwise you wan't be able to see the legitimate comments for all the spam as the site gains more users.

Its a work in progress and recent reports suggest that the battle is slowly being won, although it will remain a war of attricion for a while I think. Cheers!

I don't know about you, but when I spend a great deal of time and thought into a post I don't want just a good post. That is why when I create I like to take my time and write a thoughtful comment.

Yes, it's a bit of an insult after you spend hours on creating the best Post you can, especially when the comment arrives a minute after the Post is submitted and it's obvious 'they' haven't even read it!

Seems like I need to start making comments that contain the words good post. I wonder how much those top accounts have grown and continue to grow over the next couple of weeks/months.

I would say very few - expecting steemcleaners to be checking in with them soon :)

I am actually surprised that the the “nice post” comments are successful 25% of the time! That’s a pretty good chance of getting an upvote.... although I think plankton like me are far more likely to upvote a comment like that since we are happy someone is commenting at all... 😑😂

I think plankton like me are far more likely to upvote a comment like that since we are happy someone is commenting at all.

You make a good point here, any comment is a yay moment when beginning, I remember!

Haha. Nice post :p

I spent a good number of minutes writing up and positioning images in a post. It was a long and hefty one, lots of content-meat. And the 2 seconds right after I post, there is a comment. SKETCHY! Not possible, gotta be a bot.

The bot doesn't even know how to spell, first of all, because it said "Nic post."

Or I get this as a comment on MY post, with a video or an image of ME. "Great stuff, bro, keep up the good work."

Bro? Really? There is an image of me in my post and someone just copy and postes "bro". I mean, granted my icon is a slinky, and in comments of other people's things, I let it slide, or politely let the person know who I am if we're interacting and such. But spam comments calling me bro. Dude! I know you didn't read my post if you're calling me bro. lol Seriously. And they don't even upvote either. I'm so happy when I get a LEGIT comment from a REAL LIVE HUMAN and an LEGIT Steemian.

Sounds like a bot to me :(

Sir and Bro, very common - I am niether of those 😁

I hope you are receiving some decent comments too these days?

Yeah, I do get quite a few nice comments. Some are new folks who don't speak English well, but who are clearly making an effort and are writing a lot more than the typical spam comment. Others are the more common type of Steemian, friendly and all that.

I'm glad to hear that. And yes, I applaude those who don't have English as a first language and try with their comments.

Yeah, same.

Yep I experienced a lot of these kinda posts and seen a lot on random posts, I guess the people posting those know that they should engage with the community. Do they know they are spamming?

I think some do, but perhaps some think it's ok to write two words at the bottom of a post that clearly took hours - it isn't!

yep! I would be quit annoyed if all I got after one of my vlogs that took me hours for me to say a sentence only got a "nice post"

Indeed! 🤦🏻‍♂️

This is cool. It’s definitely not my area to crunch numbers like this but I appreciate it when others do. I just posted something about commenting that takes a completely different angle, looking more into the communication aspects of connecting with others, building a community and, dare I say, making genuine friendships. This is a great contrast to what I’ve been thinking about lately.

You are certainly thinking on the right lines, these account have no intention of doing any of the above. Thanks for the comments!

ahan good i think you have a deep research on the people who are spamming and posting comments like this..

yeah it really hurts or make you angry that you wrote hours for making blogs and article and you found such comments..

Yes it can be very disheartening.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Wow. That's incredible analysis. Thank you for taking the time to look at this. Yes, the spam posts are annoying but what you have shown is that the great number of posts are within a voting/posting group of people.

So I checked out some of them. What also happens within the posting/voting group is that they upvote each others comments.
One example;

  1. the comment "good post" received 16 upvotes.

  2. the author of the blog responds "Thank you" but he/she didn't receive any upvotes.

  3. the response comment is "Your welcome" and this receives 15 upvotes
    It is very obvious what is happening.

  4. The people doing the upvotes have $0 to $.01 so not much money is exchanged.

Is there a voting bot that automatically votes on comments? or maybe most or even all of these 16 accounts are controlled by the same person? That is another violation to weed out.

Thanks for reviewing and policing the forum and trying to keep it strong and vital.

Thank you!

s there a voting bot that automatically votes on comments? or maybe most or even all of these 16 accounts are controlled by the same person? That is another violation to weed out.

I would side with thinking that they are owned by the same person.

It's ok to have multiple accounts, but using them solely to upvote your other accounts is poor form and something @spaminator is on the lookout for.

Cheers!

Holy macaroni for that 'Good Post' comment section. That actually made me laugh lol

Crazy isn't it. I suspect they will be Steemcleaned shortly!

You can report to @steemcleaners or @spaminator.

I think your mentions may have alerted them, thanks :D

I don't think they will alert. Spammers do not like to read posts and comments. They will not read this post and my comment also.

Sorry I meant steemcleaners and spaminator :)

You're right hell of these cOmments -_- you should obviously flagged.
And today I see they are very cheap who up-vote comments and than they removed disgusting people.

Yes removing votes is silly - they are alwastibg voting power as it doesn't return to your account if you remove a vote.

First of all thank you for providing us detail graphical chart about the useless comments people do here. Unfortunately useless comments are increasing day by day but it is understandable as steem user are increasing day by day. I am not advocating useless comments. I am just telling the facts. These useless issue can be resolved by properly educate new user and discourage upvote to useless comments. Thanks for sharing your point of view:) @abh12345

My pleasure. Hopefully the Spam will one day be under control.

When I read a good post, my first reaction is to answer with "good post" because this describes my current mood best but then I think a bit and come up with an even better comment 😆

Yes I think you should add a little more to show that the post was read - don't want to look like a spammer!

Good post.....

Ha, I never actually see any of those in my posts. I'd be alright with a few. I get it though they are doing it to themselves with the dummy accounts. How do they get so many dummy accounts though. My wife has been trying to get an account for two weeks now.

How do they get so many dummy accounts though

You can find websites with temporary phone numbers that will display text messages. These can be used to collect the registration code.

2 weeks sounds a long time - check spam email folders maybe?

We will definitely have to try something different. I was told some people had waited up to a week or two for accounts so I didn't worry about it. Mine took about 4 days. It's definitely not in spam but no worry if it's not there soon I'll tell her to find one of those temp number websites and try again.

Ok, good luck with getting this sorted!

Excellent analyzing work for realize spam comments and who's spam there. I've seen any author's posts spam from spammers. So much needed thing done finally and then should report to steemit cleaners.

Thank you!

Feel free to report :)

excellent working

Thank you!

Thanks sir you are always right your research work is too good and perfect i wish every one should know abuot spam before joinig. I suggest peoples to resteem your post to new comers thsnks again you did a good work👏

Thank you!

This is really serious issue author write post after huge time thinking comments gets only nice .this is not good ..

Que?

Not gonna lie i did not expect to see that so many people use such lazy responses. You would think that they are desperate to be seen and heard even if its just two words

5 words is better than 2!

It really depend on what those 5 words are

Upvoted resteemed and followed sir 😁

thank you have to post this because your post is very help US the readers I like your post

very nice post.
actually i love jaki....

Don't give them upvote. Just give flag or downvote. Shit peoples just comes for rewards.

Yesss people are always try to get up vote this is the awkward reality of world 🌎 I hope no body mind but if some like @abh12345 is posting we have to read first then say some things but alasss

nice

you've slipped through the net! :D

Hahahahaha... he should have added post to be included in the next analysis.

When someone drops a comment in just a few seconds for a post that require at least 2minutes fast read. I wonder whether they even read the title of the post.

Yep! I knew it was coming too :D

excellent news.i really praise your activity.
thanks a lot for sharing..
please keep on your activity dear....

This is really serious issue author write post after huge time thinking comments gets only nice .this is not good

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  ·  7 years ago Reveal Comment

pretty face, crap at coding.

Downvoting for badly automated commenting!

Omg....Dr Asher....Why you should downvote her?
She's anyone known Hollywood actress @angelinajolie.
Ha ha ha......

All the more reason to slap a flag on her then! :D

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