OpenCart Esperanto Translation Part 6 (563 Words)

philosophycopy (47) in utopian-io • 7 years ago (edited)

Hello!
I'm here to translate OpenCart project to Esperanto.
If you haven't known yet about it, I'll explain in short.
OpenCart is e-commerce that has many features, include 13000 modules and themes to start. You can find nice themes, integrations, etc. If you wanna know more, visit https://www.opencart.com/

Github :
https://github.com/opencart/opencart

Crowdin Works :
https://crowdin.com/profile/philosophycopy/activity
https://crowdin.com/project/opencart-language-translation/eo/activity

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7 years ago by philosophycopy (47)

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yekrats (50) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hey @philosophycopy45. Thanks for doing #Esperanto translations! I think I see a few errors above in your screenshots. Just a few suggestions:

Vi ne havas permeson al modifi modulo "(X)"!

Should probably be something like:

Vi ne havas permeson por modifi (ŝanĝi) modulon "(X)"!

"Modifi" doesn't necessarily mean the English "modify", but "To change the form, but not touching the essence." http://vortaro.net/#modifi That's why I would recommend "ŝanĝi".
Also, I think the preposition that should be used here is "por". See: http://bertilow.com/pmeg/gramatiko/i-verboj/kun_rolvortetoj.html#i-13b I don't think you can have an infinative with the preposition "al"... can you?
"Ne forgesu la korelativo!" ;-) Oops, I almost always forget the -n! :-D
Esperanto "Standardo" means a "military flag". It's a false friend with English. See: http://vortaro.net/#standardo You probably mean "normo" or "norma". http://komputeko.net/index_eo.php?vorto=standard

Hope this helps!

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yekrats (50) · 7 years ago

@samhamou - Looking over the translations of @philosophycopy45, I think there are several problems, and would like to respectfully address them.

I would ask that anyone doing Esperanto translations do a little bit of spell checking before they add this stuff into the system.

Please note that the letter "x" should likely not appear in an Esperanto translation. The letter "x" is not one of the letters in the Esperanto language. There are six letters in Esperanto not appearing in the English language: ĉ, ĝ, ĥ, ĵ, ŝ, ŭ. There are various alternative typing systems if there is no way to type Esperanto -- what you're seeing above is the X-system and considered a system of last resort. It's OK if you're translating on an 1980's typewriter. However, with modern software and web encoding, it is really easy to set up a device to type these characters! What you see above is like someone typing n~ as the Spanish ñ. You'd never see "n~" in a translation EN > ES.
Aside from the spelling issues of the proper letters, I see a number of basic typographic errors in the above screenshots, and found many more - for example, above I see the word "filfrilo" for filter. That should be "filtrilo".
Esperanto has a system of marking the direct object called the accusative case. (Other languages have this, too. It's like the distinction we have in "who" versus "whom"; "he" versus "him". The direct object gets the extra letter. So, "Vi modifis modulon lastan." This important rule seems to be ignored in these translations.
Above, "Bestseller" is translated as "Plej vendistoj". Individually those words could mean those words. However plej is like "most" and vendistoj is "people who sell ("sellers")". Bestseller could be something like "Furorigita vendaĵo". Maybe? I'd be up for any discussion. However, I've found several edits that unfortunately look like they may have been copied from Google Translate.
Finally, we have some important rules of style and writing that a translator should probably know and adhere to. I'd recommend checking a translation against the following works, among others:

Plena Manlibro de Gramatiko (Extremely thorough grammar book.)
Plena Ilustrita Vortaro (Basically our "Dictionary.com" for Esperanto.)
Komputeko (Established computer jargon.)

I hope this helps! I am enthusiastic that people are translating works into Esperanto. I do not want to criticize, but I think something should be said so that we get quality translations into our language.

Thank you for your time, and best wishes.

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