I have read your article two, no three times. I believe you miss the point. As I have said, and am saying for the 3rd time, natural immunity is not 100%, and it is not for life - as you assert. What more can I tell you than what I said twice already? People who lived before the vaccines did not have vaccines in their bodies, and their newborns STILL got the illness. This happens because what immunity the mother passes on is not adequate - particularly when it is different strain going around that it was 20 years previous. The experiences of generations of people has no significance when they tell you what you don't want to believe? As I said, I got it as an infant, and to this day, everyone knows about that scar on my face when the topic comes up. That is the proof that your belief in maternal immunity is unfounded, as are the scars on loads of other children who got the illness despite having unvaccinated mothers.
The vaccination program has done precisely what it was supposed to do. It has saved lives. Compare infant mortality rates pre- and post vaccines, and you will see how many. Nay, look at infection rates in children and adults, pre- and post vaccine. That alone should tell you vaccines work.
If, in 50 years they no longer work, it is because new ones need to be formulated due to changes in the virus itself. Yes, we will be more susceptible, but that is because the immune system is always more susceptible to things it has not encountered before and developed a resistance to. We can expect, and scientists DO expect, new and more virulent viruses to develop. Not the fault of a good vaccination program. Viruses develop, and will continue to develop, whether or not vaccines are around. There were no vaccines during the Bubonic plague - that developed all on its own. Nature does that some times.
I cannot tell you more than what science and statistics, and people who were there, and experienced it can tell you.
If 'natural immunity' were 100% and for life, Germans would not have the saying that goes 'it's far worse the second time you catch it' when referring to viruses. If you can catch the same flu, from the same strain of the virus, after having caught it once, it means exactly that: you are not, are NEVER 100% immune, even after exposure to something. You are protected to some extent only. Commonly known among the average person in Germany, but apparently not here. Too bad,
And, oh yes, I worked in German kurheim for a time - that is a place where naturopathy was practiced. We treated cancer there. So I am very familiar with alternative treatments and their limitations.
I have truly never heard of this scaring from measles that you refer to. I am 48 years old and measles was common in my childhood, and I know of nobody getting scars or talking about scars from measles. I have never heard it given as a reason to vaccinate either. I'm not saying that it never happened to you, but after all my research and experience with measles, this is the first time hearing it.
I've heard plenty of people talking about the terrible scars that they got from the smallpox vaccine though.
I also know nobody that was scared of measles when I was a child/teenager. We never even thought of going to the doctor for such a mild normal illness, that everybody expected to get.
How many months old were you when you got measles?
I have listened to scientists and doctors talk about the infant immune system. One of them is Dr. Suzanne Humphries.
I believe that science backs what I have said.
But let's agree to disagree.
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Unfortunately, scaring occurs when you scratch the pustules open. We may agree to disagree, however, the vaccine you mention during pregnancy isn't for regular measles. It's the one that they give for German measles, which is highly dangerous. The disease, I mean. The two types of measles are not the same. German measles was so dangerous to mother and unborn child, that they began inoculating women during pregnancy. The two diseases, and the vaccines for them need to be kept separate in any discussion.
So long. That is all for me.
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Yes, I do realize that Rubella is different than measles. Some call it German measles. The reason that I used that example is because it is the one thing that they test for during pregnancy (since it can be dangerous to the unborn baby) and they often find that the vaccinated mother has no immunity anymore. I had rubella as a child, no vaccine for it, and at the ages of 38, 41 and 44 when I was pregnant, my immunity was still very high and my babies were all naturally protected.
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The pustules sounds much more like chickenpox than measles to me. I have indeed heard of chickenpox leaving scars when they are scratched too much.
Also chickenpox is more likely to occur more than once in your life. That is not common with measles though.
As for chickenpox, most of the world agrees that it is such a mild illness that vaccination is unnecessary. I believe that only 3 countries even have the chickenpox vaccine on the childhood schedule -- USA, Canada and Australia.
And most countries realized that if chickenpox was stopped, it would result in much more Shingles among the adults and elderly. Indeed this has been shown to be true in the few countries that vaccinate for chickenpox.
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Never had chickenpox or mumps. No one in my family did. I really can only hypothesize how I was scarred, since I have no memory of it. I was too young. Perhaps describing it as a 'pustule' was incorrect. As to there being no scarring from measles, there is. It is just more common in chickenpox. A simple internet search on your part would find proof of that quite easily. I verified it with one hit. I had a bad case, where scaring does occur. I am surprised that you got all the diseases you did, since you are younger than me, and here in Quebec, at least, we were doing the measles, TB, etc... vaccines by the time I entered elementary school. Anyway, good luck with it. Signing off the conversation now.
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As opposed to Radiation and ChemotherPAY?
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Huh? You referring to the cancer treatment? The Breuss cure. It involves making the body eat the cancer cells through special diet and fasting. Some people had success, some did not. In case you are not aware of it, in Germany regular doctors are quite open to traditional treatments as a first-line treatment, often only resorting to harder stuff when those treatments fail.
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I was referring to the conventional treatments to cancer which have been shown to cause cancers and haven't been shown to be effective by any means to stop cancer. Chemotherapy has an effective rate of less than 3%. If you read the literature on why people die, it will be evident that they succumb to the treatment before they do to the cancer, and the treatment promotes cancer through weakened system and stress, while surgeries carry the risk of spreading cancer cells throughout the blood and body. Radiation therapy has been shown to cause cancer as well.
So when you said you're familiar with the limitation of treating cancer through alternative medicine, I asked as opposed to the lack of limitation to treatment under conventional means?
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I believe it was quite clear: the limitations of naturopathy. Sometimes we have to face the fact that diseases will kill us. Period. Nothing more to do about it. Naturopathy does not work miracles. It never did, otherwise people in the middle ages would have lived to 150.
Sorry for the bad news. I'm not into argument for argument's sake. So, so long and have nice life.
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