The 20 Second Comment Limiter Needs Reworking... From a Developer / User Perspective

in writing •  8 years ago  (edited)

The comment limiter, bane of my existence

While I understand fundamentally the need for such a comment rate limiter to exist to help combat comment spamming, chain size bloat and scalability.. However as it sits from both a user and developer standpoint it's incredibly irritating to constantly hit this restraint.

The 20 second forced delay has a very real impact not only on users wishing to respond efficiently to their comments but also severely limits network wide services that I'm currently developing. Imagine trying to serve a few hundred requests an hour while having a 20 second delay on all queued input & responses. Simply put it's not conducive to developers nor their services to impose such a delay on the services offered. |

On the user side of things one must realize that although reddit.com does in fact limit the rate at which a user can comment on posts it's not something that needs to exists. The need to limit new users comments to reduce spam is something I see a use for, however the way the current system is set up simply will not work for the mainstream as no one wants to wait to put their word in.

Proposed Idea to Fix This:

Rather than have the comment rate limiter hard coded in at 20 seconds we implement a system based off of some algorithm including reputation level, post count, account age. Allow those who put in work either in form of providing content or service to be able to skirt the comment rate limiter as it currently poses more potential harm than good in my opinion to those wishing to "power use" the STEEM network.

Truth be told I'm entirely unsure if the 20 second limit is imposed on the STEEM blockchain itself or on the front end of Steemit.com. Either way if some form of protection as I've mentioned above can be implemented it would certainly help those wishing to reply in a timely manner or run STEEM network services to properly run as they intend to.


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It annoys me too when I am trying to blast through some replies. Get it gone, I agree!!!

As someone who makes an honest effort to reply to most comments I receive... yeah. Pain in the ASS!

I agree, it is annoying!

Bottlenecks should be in place to curb bot abuse.. But for aged obviously human or service accounts.. should be some way to allow us to reply faster you'd hope.. :S

Good Luck ! Have you found a new place yet !? Im missing alot of posts when I sleep ! Lol !👍😂😊

Still working on it. :/

I haven't been super active on posting the past few days.

How is the new work? Still on it?

This is funny, I just cursed at the screen for this, and your post was the next one that I saw. haha
Wait....Were you Nostradamus in your past life?!

Possibly, All I remember from my past life is... Uhh. well.. Nothing actually. 0_0

Well I guess that would make sense...

Interesting, I had no idea that Steemit has a comment rate limiter. Probably because I'm not a program and could never type quality comments fast enough to run afoul of it. But I can see how it could be an annoyance to service developers. Seems like a well intentioned safeguards though.

The meaning behind it makes full sense to me.. However as a code monkey building services on the STEEM network I notice the bottleneck.. It's there sadly and innocent users / bots might be smoked by it.

That's a great idea. Sometimes, I am also in a deep pain in having to wait... ;)

me too

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Aye. For a user not a big deal.. But for a service bot.. A huge deal. :D

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

this --- like if ... umm.. someone was trying to figure out how to have a steem-based poker system, this would really fuck with the dealers ability to do its work.

A workaround is to just use multiple bot accounts, and have them switch off. So like, if you need to comment every second, just use 20bots to do it, and have them take turns.

That said, isnt this scheduled to go away in HF17?

also also -- its blockchain based. Any message you see in red at the bottom is based on a blockchain response, iiuc.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Even with that limit a bot can dump 86400 posts/day... zombienet it by a few hundreds... and the limit is just a worthless piece of S**t


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I don't know if you recall the you need to link your account to create an account... ... Same idea

My feelings every time I hit that 20 second issue.

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LOL. the dude

Its back!!! You are right on this @kyle, this is SOOO annoying. I type at 70wpm, so I have to write a least 23 words per comment now. Hence, the long comment. haha