RE: Leftist liberal media and SJW's are losing all connection with sanity...

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Leftist liberal media and SJW's are losing all connection with sanity...

in blog •  7 years ago  (edited)

I have to say I don't see it. As much as the current system is awful, a system without government interference will, IMO, allow even more sociopaths to abuse the power that they have.

This is my left wing upbringing coming out, but the way forward is universal free healthcare, free public transport, free education and universal welfare, and unfettered capitalism will have no interest in all the above, because there is no profit in it.

I would imagine that you are not an advocate for all the above...feel free to set me straight!

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There is nothing free. In life in, in nature in human relations.

Unfettered capitalism is lending to each other on a mutually agreed contract, nothing more.

Giving free, means taking (forcibly of others..)

Sociopaths are around 3% of the population, and they are indeed the reason for most ills.

Government is heaven for sociopaths, where meritocracy is shunned, and bureaucracy applauded.

Sociopathy thrives in anonymity and big numbers.

Small, decentralized systems thwarts their behavior, and allows for ostracizing them from harm and undue negative influence.

Yanno things were free, once upon a time. If you actually mean "things". We just helped ourselves.

I am not suggesting a return to neolithic times, but life was considerably simpler for our race in the past. And shorter and more brutal, of course!

Your comment about human relations opens up a whole new can of worms!

I still don't see where you are coming from with this theoretical decentralisation. I think it will be a feeding ground for sociopaths.

It's funny. Here I am, a leftie, trying to convince you, a rightie, that people will behave in a self-serving manner, rather than helping others.

We have flipped positions!

I still don't see where you are coming from with this theoretical decentralisation. I think it will be a feeding ground for sociopaths.

You are incorrect - I have been studying sociopathy and psychopathy for last 4 years on and off - it's fascinating.
Larger the pop. number = antisocial behavior increases. Sociopaths operate better when not seen. Ergo the smaller the social group, the easier they are to be seen..

Nothing was ever free - we took, but we expended energy to acquire.. NO energy, no life. There is a cost, always.

Everybody always behaves in a self serving manner. To not do would be illogical. Altruism is a concept.(there is reward - in some fashion - that the proponent thinks is a worthwhile exchange for them. It doesn't have to be money)

Honest, self serving (without the sociopath element), leads to cooperation, and a functioning society.

You could be right. You have an interesting perspective, that's for sure. The problem is that so many aspects of this conversation are deeply theoretical.

Okay, the free thing is becoming one of semantic distinctions. I was referring to a "cost" from a monetary/bartering perspective. I accept the distinction you are making, but we were approaching it from different angles.

The self-serving thing...hmmm. There is self-serving, and then there is self-serving. If you are saying that altruistic behaviour is by definition self serving, then I understand your point, but would argue that one who has the internal reward system for being nice is operating on a different (and better) level than one does not have that internal system.

Blimey. Was that sentence long enough for you?

This is veering into evolutionary sociological territory I think. Dawkins and his selfish gene.