Perhaps. But no more egotistical than that say you know for certain there isn't one ;)
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I guess i forgot to say i would be open to say ok there is a christian God if i were shown proof... as of now i see no proof but blind faith... and that's never a good thing when it comes to effecting whole populations or cultures who don't want to be attacked by that... but if homie were to come down and say the bible was true.. i'd be the first to admit i had gotten it all wrong
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Homie did come down. We didn't treat him very nicely.
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hahaha just like the stories of Zeus and medusa right? bout as much evidence to back up those claims as homie turning water to wine... or wanting to stone people for not believing in the commandments.. again there is morality to be gathered from these stories and can be used in a great beneficial way for humanity... but Jesus bringing democracy? wasn't it the pope anointing kings by the power of god... and these kings committing genocide in his name? These dictators... chosen by god?......doesn't sound very Christian to me
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If you are genuinely interested in the historical credibility of homie, I'd recommend "The Resurrection of the Son of God" by N.T. Wright. It's an extremely detailed, scholarly look into the historical claim of Christ's resurrection. It's dry and rather long, but if it's a subject you are interested in, it may be worth checking out.
https://www.amazon.com/Resurrection-Christian-Origins-Question-Vol/dp/0800626796
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Right on... it's always nice to be able to read something from the opposing side that's not just a bunch of i win cause i can yell the loudest lol.. i'll have to see if i can't make it through this one... thanks for the rec
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Side note: Have you seen the interview? Might be worth checking out.
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i really respect Jordan Peterson and believe in almost everything he talks about... it's just the literal Jesus stuff that turns me off a bit... It seems more of an amalgamation of information condensed into an easy to understand story of "Jesus" but those stories were told by humans 1000's of years before the bible or Jesus was ever thought of... again a good moral framework to think about... not a literal history of events... i mean what kind of sick god makes a man take his son to the top of a mountain to sacrifice him... just cause he wanted to see how about god he was? many logical fallacies in the bible that contradict themselves and history
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As do I. And I think Peterson would say something along the lines of, "Yeah, but human history is full of moral stories. Yet this seems to be the only one that has led to a set of coherent structure upon which universal human rights have been able to stand. There seems something unique about that."
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Unique as in... humans with our awesome brains and curiosity have figured out a system to be good to each other... don't need a space dad for that... i mean what kind of "God" would create this kind of torture and suffering and then when you die send you to a place of unimaginable suffering for eternity because you didn't believe in a "God" that would create such a messed up place.... All religion is a control system... always has been, always will be... not to say there aren't tiny good tidbits of morality that came out... but to tell someone believe in me or burn for eternity because i said so.... kind of not what an all loving god would seem to be about... more like the current iteration of the "Church" is very satanic right now... you could fill an encyclopedia with the misbehavings of this church.. and that's just this past century... you have to take the horrible with the so called "good" the church has done and weigh them against each other... with all the money and knowledge the Vatican has... why don't they solve worldly problems.. you know how many billions the Catholic church has... why does God need billions of $? why does god need the most expensive places of worship? If i believed in any of this literally.. i would have to side with "Jesus" from the dead sea scrolls... you are god.. and heaven and hell are right here on earth.. you get to choose which one you create to live in..... haha might be the reason they left those ones out of the King James version... again a King... great democracy at work there am i right? we want to put Christianity on a pedestal and demonize Islam for being violent and barbaric.... ummm they are both Abrahamic religions arguing semantics... lol the same story just very minimal different details... We must get past these control systems as a human race if we are ever going to come together and reach space and beyond...
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With regards to Peterson's interview, I think you first have to deal with the observation (what Christianity has offered seems to work where every other system has failed) and then ask the logical question (why is this the case?). I think that's something Peterson explores in his extensive biblical lecture series. I haven't made it very far into the series yet, but it's been pretty interesting. You can find them on YouTube if interested.
There's quite a bit you have listed out there, but a lot of it seems to orbit the age old question of evil. That is, of course, a great question. But it's also one for which there is no shortage of answers. If you want to kick it really old school, Augustine covered the topic in great length. Dostoyevsky's "The Brothers Karamazov" is a great piece of classic literature on it, but I'd first recommend you to C.S. Lewis' "The Problem of Pain."
I may write a little on this next week as well, if I manage the time.
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