RE: Feedback Wanted: “Communities” Design Document

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Feedback Wanted: “Communities” Design Document

in communities •  5 years ago 

Idea: Maybe this idea will work in future sprints, but it might be good to prepare for.

I would like STEEM Power to play a role in enabling advanced (premium?) community features.

What would an advanced feature be? Well, down the road, maybe you realize that a higher STEEM Power demand seems to correlate to higher price, so you’ve determined that it’s worth a specific amount of ad revenue. So for those communities with enough STEEM Power to justify the cost, ads are removed.

That’s just one example.

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I'm a big fan of this approach. UIs should offer more incentives to power up.

Ideally, STEEM Power should be incentivized through consensus too, so that all frontends effectively promote STEEM Power. But there’s no reason why a particular frontend can’t take it upon itself to incentivize the platform’s fundamental unit of accounting.

I'm excited to see UIs play with gamification. There's not much of this right now and so much potential. Hive (and particularly hive communities) open a lot of options here, which I hope to explore once communities are live. In regards to consensus specifically though, I think megavotes alone would be a big reason to power up. It would allow users to see what their impact could be (I guess, roughly 20X their current max vote).

Can you explain the concept of megavotes? How do they relate to Communities?

The idea is that you could drain all your voting power with one vote (if you wanted to) and it would be ~20x stronger than a single vote today.

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Megavotes really should be a thing. Not a lot of people has time to manually curate at least 10 posts per day and must upvote them at 100% so those people (that includes me) ends up delegating to other people (or bots) in order to not waste VP. Hope this included in HF22 (or even HF21!)

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Although not a UI, @paulag has been offering a small incentive to power-up for a year now, and with the help of @yabapmatt, @steemcommunity for 39 weeks.

https://steemit.com/steem/@paulag/announcing-the-wolfhart-wall-of-fame-celebrating-1-year-of-the-redfish-power-up-league

https://steemit.com/community/@steemcommunity/the-minnow-power-up-league-week-39

Encouraging and intensifying this action can only lead to good things!

Agreed

Will Steemit offer any incentives to power up or charge a fee for features when Communities are initially launched? Eg. For promoting a Community, or to bid for popular community names? Communities are such a good opportunity to incentivize more power ups and create demand for Steem. I hope we take advantage of it when Communities are launched.

There's no immediate incentive, but it costs about 3 STEEM to create a community, and communities helps pave the way for further gamification. Communities themselves could choose to provide certain benefits for any criteria, including SP.

Excellent suggestion here. That idea gave me another idea. Imagine you have community development attached to this, new developers can get more experience and have the opportunity to prove them self and maybe receive special features inside the dapps or some notoriety for contributing their own code. Maybe community developers could get a special badge, or a decentralized election could take place for "Best community developer of 19". This encourages community development. I've seen more community development happening here than anywhere else on the internet except for the OG Xbox scene and specific deployments like Linux/gnu. The problems come when our brilliant community developers make something for free (each hour spent is an hour Steemit inc would have to pay $70usd/hr to someone to get the same results) for Steemit to use and no feedback is given or taken between the two parties , I think we can all do better on that front. Decentralized and vote driven repository governance is the way forward.

You could do this by adding a social element to the SPS. People who earn proposal distribution could get a badge, for instance.

Perhaps SPS will help to offer the proper rewards for developers.

In our opinion, we don´t want pay for premium features. But this is a "problem" of our background and our way of work. For understanding: We collect money, donations and we want to help - so it is important for us, keep costs as low as possible. Because it´s our promise to all donators. (and believes us, as soon as you are a charity, so many 3rd parties want to hold up their hand and earn money from us)

I like this idea a lot 👍👍

You mean like when you buy and stake Steem Engine ENG tokens and you get a Steem Tribe ?

its a good idea!

Very interesting idea!

saludos.... soy un usuario comun he leido el articulo y tu idea ... suena bien la idea.. por otro lado me gustaria que los desarooladores de hivewind acomodaran la plataforma par que sea mas amigable con los usuarios del comun y asi tenga mucho mas trafico la plataforma

Depends. It could easily make communities elitist where only only the wealthy users of the first hour can afford a community.

Steemit is already hostile to new users, don't make it more hostile. And I think it's that hostility to new users which keeps the price of STEEM down.

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