How curation rewards work and how to be a kick ass curator

steevc (73) · 7 years ago

Should minnows and other small players worry about curation rewards? We don't make that much from it. It tends to just make big plays make even more. I think we should support the content we really like to encourage our. This will spread the past rewards and encourage more people to keep posting. We all win in the long run

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shivohum2015 (65) · 7 years ago

Should minnows and other small players worry about curation rewards? We don't make that much from it. It tends to just make big plays make even more.

I am really surprised with ur comment, r u really minnow??

As far as Curation is concerned...simply do one thing.....if its trending post vote early...if it is a non trneding post vote after 30 mins...

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steevc (73) · 7 years ago

Okay, I'm technically a dolphin so I make a few steem from curation. That is by supporting minnows. I just think the effort required to make anything from curation when you only have a few sp may not be worth it. Support your fellow minnows and they may return the favour.

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago

I completely agree with your views bro--whales don't give a shit about minnows. They're just busy circle jerking with other whales. I used to randomly throw my tiny up-vote on what's shown on the trending page but then I realized it didn't even make sense. It's only making the rich gets richer even more.

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k9disc (49) · 7 years ago

I upvote the content, personally. Hard not to look at the numbers, but when the questions of "how much" come in with my vote on a big pile of rewards or a hidden gem, it usually comes down to the content.

I think that's not a bad policy for growth and community.

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fredkese (69) · 7 years ago

I support you. The whales support their own, we should do same so we can rise much quicker.

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

It's up to you, and you can do both. My main point is to show people how the curation rewards work so they can have an understanding. One thing I do recommend to new users is to comment and network first, it will be more rewarding but it is a tough road.

steevc (73) · 7 years ago

Of course, but I think expectations have to be set. A minnow will make very little for any effort they put in. It's a good explanation. If the whales just try to maximise their curation rewards then they will tend to favour the same people. They may not even be reading the posts. I'd like to see more of a mix on the trending page. It's fascinating watching how this develops. I want to see how steemit scales up

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lextenebris (62) · 7 years ago

There's a real problem on Steemit with new users essentially not seeing any sort of real impact of any of their actions unless they get lucky enough to hit the lotto, a whale notices them, or one of the bot swarms just selects them as a maximal investment opportunity and they get a big post. Not predictable, not consistent, and ultimately not really rewarding.

Steemit as a social network platform is, in some pretty significant ways, anti-new user.

Both Trending and New are feeds which are not particularly useful, and that's a shame.

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jorlauski (58) · 7 years ago

Steemit as a social network platform is, in some pretty significant ways, anti-new user.

very insightful....it's one of those thnings that you need to grind through to get any momentum.. it's great that so many people are here willing to support the minnow community - but I think that there could be some more thought put into ways to make more accessable to newer users and for them to be able to see an impact earlier on...

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lextenebris (62) · 7 years ago

I maintain that one of the really big problems with onboarding new users to Steemit is that nothing they do, nothing they write, nothing they think, nothing they engage with – essentially nothing about them – will make a difference to their experience for several weeks and possibly even several months.

All that changes if they can get in with the right social group that is pointedly not located on the blockchain. The right Discord group. The right Steemit.chat group. The right social group who hangs together and frequently communicates – but which does not do so on Steemit because of its limitations.

Fall in with the right (or the wrong) group and you can be readily on your way to Reputation 55 or so in under a couple of months. Make contacts, kiss hands, shake babies – do all the good stuff, all the networking, all that stuff you probably hate if you're really a creator and you'd rather be spending time making stuff – do all that and maybe you can find some people with deep pockets you like your work and will regularly patronize you.

Otherwise, you are grinding to find your own community. You are compelled to continue making new content so that you have fresh stuff to show off while simultaneously digging anxiously through whatever else others are posting that are sort of like the things that you do. You leave comments on their posts, you look for kindred spirits. You convince them to comment on each other's posts. Pretty soon, you have a community – one which you will have to coordinate using tools which are off the system, because the one thing that Steemit simply can't allow you to have is a real community.

But that leads into an entirely different set of problems.

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jorlauski (58) · 7 years ago

very true. I was spinning in circles till I realized how important it was to try to connect to other Steemians - now I realize the importance of it , but having a hard time finding others who are interested in connecting - seems like you said earlier - everyone is just trying to monetize and doesn't even read the content they are voting on - just trying to game the system - it could be the death of Steemit if the social aspect of it doesn't improve

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lextenebris (62) · 7 years ago

Just because everyone is looking to maximize their own chance, that doesn't mean that – necessarily – that they are not interested in getting the content that they say they are.

We can say with some sense of accuracy that they are clearly not getting the content that they're looking for and if they did so, the situation would be quite different.

I don't think that provides a extinction level event for Steemit, but it does provide piles of opportunity which could be used in very useful ways. All we have to do, really, is just start talking to one another.

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leximiss (36) · 7 years ago (edited)

Whaiiiiit a moment....there's a Steemit.chat??? Is that to talk about Steemit or ??
"Make contacts, kiss hands & shake babies" cracked me up...I almost missed it but last second backed up & reread Lol
What do you mean "Steemit simply can't allow you to have is a real community"? Edited to add: I read your below posts further & I see what you mean.

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lextenebris (62) · 7 years ago

Yes, of course there's a Steemit.chat; it's listed in the sidebar on the main page and has been for quite some time.
I have been trained in some of the best methods for political manipulation. That is 1 of many lessons that I've learned.
Steemit cannot allow you to have a real community, one which is based on shared ideas about what social order should look like, what, and believe should be, and one which is not necessarily bounded but hold into anyone else that comes along and makes a claim. It's that last which is immoral in their eyes.

That there are subcultural communities on Steemit, it's as much because of their bad design and poor ability to intervene in a negative way..

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leximiss (36) · 7 years ago

Not in my sidebar but I can type it in now that I know it exists. Thanks!

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steevc (73) · 7 years ago

It took me months to get going. You have to work at it to build a following. You can't expect instant success.

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lextenebris (62) · 7 years ago

It's not about building a following or even instant success. That assumes that my interest is in making big piles of fake money.

It isn't.

My interest is in using the platform so that people can find my work that they might be interested in and I can find other people's work that I might be interested in. The probabilistic exchange of multiple types of semi-related currencies? Not really what I'm in for.

What I would consider a success is "a social media platform that actually works to promote being social." But that's not what it does.

It's really about people trying to maximize their scores. Absolutely unrelated to the content, the primary activity on this platform is people trying to game the system in order to get more of the currency to game the system with.

I recognize that's the fact.

But I can't help thinking that a more accessible, individual-focused approach to the problem of having people be happy along the way until they're capable of being participants in the wider game would be a far better solution for everyone involved.

It's not really surprising that new users tend to bounce off of Steemit like flies off a windshield. Expectation setting is wrong from the beginning.

That said, the game in the larger sense is interesting – but it's not particularly useful.

I wish it was.

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kharma.scribbles (57) · 5 years ago (edited)

Publish0x.. 100% better onboarding experience than I could ever have at Steemit. Content gets noticed and read, those readers leave very engaging - conversation provoking - comments. There is no 'timing' BS to worry about, everyone's tip is worth the same (basically) and posts NEVER expire from earnings.. Why is STEEMit so complex for no reason? A basic platform has a much more committed and bonded community, with amazing writers sharing their content everyday.. and not too many people are posting "How to Earn" this or that on the platform because, well, the platform just works..

The only reason I came back here was because Splinterlands became compatible with TRX and I won a free starter pack. Thank gosh STEEM has Splinterlands, sometimes I wonder where the chain would be without them. I absolutely LOVE that game, but really don't feel 'at home' on STEEM(it).. At least not as a beginning creator.

Edit: The only big flaw I see in Publish0x, I admit, is that it is not its own blockchain, and the posts are not tied to the blockchain.. Other than that though, it's beta and WIP..but to me, STEEMit needs more work :x

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steevc (73) · 7 years ago

It works socially for me and the 'fake money' is a nice bonus. It was real enough to buy me a trip to Steemfest and a nice guitar. I'm no big shot. I just play around here and people seem to like what I do. I admit that getting seen initially is hard, but that's the case for most platforms. The planned 'communities' feature may help with that, but you still have to rise above the mass of low quality posts somehow. Steemit is still small. When there are millions then it may be even harder to be seen. It's all a big experiment.

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lextenebris (62) · 7 years ago

One of my problems with it is that it is "a big experiment" building on mechanisms that we've largely had figured out over the last 5 to 10 years.

I mean that seriously. Things like individual profiles, individual taste weighting, content filtering, integrated search, clear presentation, being able to find things that you actually want – all those reasons that Twitter and Facebook and even Reddit are huge in the social media space.

"Getting seen" is harder than it needs to be and, in theory, the upcoming Communities are going to help simplify that and channelize finding content that you're interested in – but that's a long time from now, even if it is on the roadmap.

"Steemit is still small" but it's large enough to have scams which are taking people for tens of thousands of dollars on a platform which people seem to endlessly reiterate "is still in beta."

I don't really see much purpose in experimenting with systems that already have a perfectly good solution – but I seem to be an unusual member of the community.

What I want to see is a user experience which is good for a new user on day one, and lets them see that they have an immediate effect on their personal experience, as well as it is on day 1000. That's how you get users to come on board and in stay around until day 1000.

As it stands – that doesn't seem to have ever been an interest. And that's disappointing and sad.

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lavanya (47) · 7 years ago

What is the use of followers?

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steevc (73) · 7 years ago

Your followers are vital. They are the ones who will see all your posts and are more likely to comment and vote. If you build a relationship with them they will help you out. It takes time, but it's worth it. Whale votes are nice, but they won't follow that many people.

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lavanya (47) · 7 years ago

Tqs bro.

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thelavishtrader (28) · 7 years ago

I would hope that others upvote quality content that they like and helpful for themselves and others. Hopefully this won't play out as a liking game because someone is a whale. If I like your content even with the smallest influence, I'll still send my upvote if it's helpful.

We all have to start off somewhere. Lets see how Steemit plays out in the next couple of months.

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greedwalker (40) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thank you, it was really interesting to read - not only the post, but all comments as well.

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miniature-tiger (68) · 7 years ago

I agree that minnows don't need to worry about curation rewards. After 5 months on Steemit, starting from scratch, my total curation rewards are only now approaching the $5 mark. Building an audience through posting, making great comments, entering contests and supporting communities are all better things to focus activity on to get started.

aghunter (61) · 7 years ago

I agree completely. I think that people need to reward quality even if it means their curation rewards are slightly lower. If people vote only to maximise their return then longer term the site will fail as the quality posts wont get the upvotes they need to encourage people to keep posting. Most of the posts are already of questionable quality, if they aren't actively curated for quality , then longer term Steemit just be a POS site for whales.

steevc (73) · 7 years ago

Exactly and minnows are better off putting their efforts into good comments to build their followers.

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jeanpi1908 (63) · 7 years ago

I don't think i am a big player but I still make 2.5 - 3.5 SP per week in curation reward and I think it is worth it. But I mostly vote on the hidden gems as @ocd curator.

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steevc (73) · 7 years ago

That's great, but 0.5 Steem per day is not a great return for the effort most of us would need to actively seek out maximum curation rewards. I do use some auto voting for friends, but I mostly do it manually and I think that's the best way to reward good content.

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praise-eu (67) · 7 years ago

How do you achieve this?

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jeanpi1908 (63) · 7 years ago

I search for hidden gems and i try to vote as early as possible on the post included in the @ocd compilation because I know that acidyo will vote on them.

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steemibu351 (57) · 7 years ago

god bless you.

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konelectric (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Probably one of the best post I read about curation rewards. Have to wait to 20 minute to up vote you thought.

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thecreativerebel (48) · 7 years ago (edited)

hahaha! Love it.

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dontstopmenow (68) · 7 years ago

Thanks for explaining this so clearly and in such detail. This really helps!

And also, thanks a lot for all the times I asked you about curations on Discord, and you always took your time, and patiently explained me many things 😊

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bigdogmarco (32) · 7 years ago

I'm new to Steemit and your post helped me understand how curation works. Side note, curation doesn't seem like an appropriate name for this action. It seems as though Steemit bakes in undue complexity into the platform especially when compared to more traditional blogging/social media platforms.

That being said, one way to eliminate the confusion is to be natural and upvote content that moves you regardless of time frame or potential reward. Do what you love and the success will follow.

Thanks for this article, upvoting and commenting because it helped me and I appreciate you taking the time to compose it.

Best Regards,
Mark

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steempowerpics (69) · 7 years ago

🌟 This is a fantastic guide to curation rewards!
This is probably the most complicated subject for Steemians to understand, and something we get asked about every day on Discord. Thanks for putting this in terms we can all relate to.

-- Resteemed!

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ats-david (74) · 7 years ago

Would this make a good Utopian guide? I think it might! Tag that mofo, bro!

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cryptokeepr (61) · 7 years ago

I did a post about my curation rewards recently and someone left a link in the comments to a post with visual representation of how curation rewards are split. @miniature-tiger was the one who created the post, I believe and @yabapmatt shared it with me.

But yes you're right there's a lot of factors and I've found I get the best curation rewards when I vote for authors who are earning $1-10 per post or sometimes more, but the key is if I have more steem power and vote earlier than most of the others, I get the lions share of the curation reward split. I'm still playing around with the timing but I've also found that about 16-25 minutes is a good timing range to cast a vote.

My 100% vote is worth around 50 cents and I once got a 0.48 SP curation reward which was pretty shocking....I definitely got the majority of that 25%!

On a separate note, I don't think I've cast a witness vote for you yet..I didn't realize you were a witness. I've got like 3 votes left and one of them will be yours here in a minute.

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

Thanks, I saw it come in.

If you get #1 curation spot and it isn't too early and the post does well you can do better than your own vote, but it is extremely rare and very hard to do on purpose.

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erodedthoughts (66) · 7 years ago

I gave you 100% just for explaining this!

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bethalea (63) · 7 years ago

THANK YOU.

drakos (70) · 7 years ago

Don't vote on the big whale posts trying to get a piece of the action.

Yup, lesson learned after wasting my votes on those, when I was still a newbie on Steemit 😆

tananda (52) · 6 years ago

WOW! Very unexpected and interesting! Ty

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chuckyfucky (62) · 7 years ago (edited)

Dude! This is perfect!! Extremely well put and informative apreciate it and you. Resteemed. -Cheers

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

Thanks :)

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simocoin (37) · 7 years ago

Thanks for explaining this so clearly and in such detail
always waiting your post

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ikikeremkpo (35) · 7 years ago

good and informative post

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ivaneta (36) · 7 years ago

Thank you so much for this post. I had no idea about any of this and how curation rewards work. I will resteem so I can find this post again and re-read it . Thank!

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figureitout (32) · 7 years ago

Extremely helpful! Thank you!!!

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kp138 (68) · 7 years ago

Well written and informative post. Thanks!

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potplucker (53) · 7 years ago

Appreciate the instruction. Now to put it to use.

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cobmaximus (59) · 7 years ago

Thanks for taking the time to explain this in a simple manner :D

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awgbibb (70) · 7 years ago

Thank you, very well put together. Have you done or seen another similar post on how rewards for replies to posts, and voting on them operates?

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mryanaboy (25) · 7 years ago

Very good post, thank you for posting :)

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mulder69 (59) · 7 years ago

Thank you for these explanations.
I have a question because I am watching my curation gains to compare and understand where and how to vote.

I won 0.001 on a post at $ 31.40 with only 10 voters

On a second post, 0.007 of earnings for $ 3 and 58 votes (I was in the top 10)

On a last 0.001 of earnings for $ 4.59 and 59 votes (also in the top 10)
I do not understand this gap?

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samirich (60) · 6 years ago

Would have loved to see some explanations on this.

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alal (55) · 7 years ago

god post. bro

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masterofcoin (47) · 7 years ago

Thanks! This is great information

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fproductions (66) · 7 years ago

Thanks for this great information.

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olyup (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

Great post! I'm still not sure I understand the multiplier effect entirely, but thanks for laying it out. Where is it laid out in quantitative terms?

The gist of it though: You are rewarded for later absolute voting time (up to 30 minutes) and for earlier relative voting time. Which variable matters more depends on the actions of others.

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tattoodjay (73) · 7 years ago

I must admit I have never had a good grasp of the details of curation rewards and I see others who are very precise in what and how they curate for max return

I have always just voted on what I like when I see it
This post made it all a lot clearer for me so thanks for that

Will I change most likely not but at least I know what a could be doing and am making an informed choice when up voting

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denmarkguy (76) · 7 years ago

It's great that people take the time to calculate all this stuff... I understand most of the mechanics of what you've explained, but in the end I find that I am just more inclined to curate for quality, rather than to maximize rewards... the rewards are nice but coincidental...

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wandrnrose7 (65) · 7 years ago

My bets are on you're wisdom. Thanks for sharing your observations!

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nainaztengra (79) · 7 years ago

Extremely informative post buddy. Loved reading it. Your explanation has been spot on for sure. Am sure most of the steemitians would benefit from your post. Upvoted, resteemed and following u as always.
Regards Nainaz
#thealliance

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spacetrucker (54) · 7 years ago

Awesome made its simple to understand thanks again keep up the good work!!!!!

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zarrah (26) · 7 years ago

i agree.....thanks for the information

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scalerman (46) · 7 years ago

Great post..thanks :)

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dcentralized (25) · 7 years ago

this is the simplest post describing how curation rewards work. Thanks really interesting

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aghunter (61) · 7 years ago

This is fantastic. Thank you for this analysis. I have resteemed!

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aghunter (61) · 7 years ago

Actually further to this, is there any chance you could do a similar post of how rewards work for comments? I have noticed people will comment on my posts but often wont up vote it, or may reply to a comment on their post, but wont upvote the original comment. Is there a reason for this?

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ankitchoudhary (55) · 7 years ago

Interesting post.

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praise-eu (67) · 7 years ago

Got quality content. Got new ideas. Thanks @themarkymark.
@praise-eu

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jeanpi1908 (63) · 7 years ago

I have one more thing I don't understand about curation if there a 10 1% votes does they take the same place in curation reward then 10 100% votes?

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

10 100% votes would get a larger portion of rewards

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jeanpi1908 (63) · 7 years ago

Yeah but for the 30 min distribution how does it work there?

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

The earliest votes get the larger reward.

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jeanpi1908 (63) · 7 years ago

Yeah but even if it is only a 1% vote or a 0.00$ vote?

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

a $0.00 vote will get nearly 0.00 curation rewards, as the vote is so small. 1% vote depends on who is voting, 1% can be over $1 with some people.

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jeanpi1908 (63) · 7 years ago

But will the 100% vote coming after then have a smaller curation reward if there was a 0.00$ before?

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jimbojones (53) · 7 years ago

Something i have noticed about curating.. is that people will upvote post's without even reading them.

So really good posts may not get read because they are from a new author.. where a whale can make a crappy post and get tonnes of views and upvotes.

I think we really need a downvote button too!

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dreamingirwin (58) · 7 years ago

I am always kind of torn at this subject, because my account is not big enough for this to have a substantial impact. I wonder if at my stage in the steam it process would I benefit more buy RI steaming to help my community. I usually Resteem the post that I of vote anyways. Though I suppose that eventually I will be at the point where it does make a substantial difference, and at that point it would have been beneficial to have gotten into the Habit early. There's a battle in my mind towards this.

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

I resteem a lot, but I have slowed down a lot lately, it seems Steemit is not very friendly to resteems. To me it is a good way to share things you like to your followers, but many apparently get offended by it.

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dreamingirwin (58) · 7 years ago

Well I've seen it. Yet I wonder if those people have forgotten what it's like to be a beginner on steemit. I Resteem to give other people more exposure. there are so many things shared on steemit at one time the people's post get lost. Especially if they're just starting out. Yet I've seen the angry post, saying people shouldn't do that. Yet I think those post make then look bad.

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davedickeyyall (73) · 7 years ago

Hey thanks for the info.. I've been trying to figure out how curation rewards actually work

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lonejaveed (2) · 7 years ago

good information for new users

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upgoat (12) · 7 years ago

Calling @originalworks :)
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Nice, you got a 74.0% @cryptomancer upgoat, thanks to @themarkymark
It consists of $2.21 vote and $0.59 curation
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originalworks (69) · 7 years ago

The @OriginalWorks bot has determined this post by @themarkymark to be original material and upvoted(1.5%) it!

To call @OriginalWorks, simply reply to any post with @originalworks or !originalworks in your message!

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mrweirdowski (47) · 7 years ago

Though this post is 7 days old I upvote it because it seems very useful for everyone here. :D Thanks for the explanation!

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rksumanthraju (55) · 7 years ago

Useful Information. Thank you

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adelepazani (73) · 7 years ago

Hi ,thanks for this post ,
And the math part was so helpful *

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rebelheart (54) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the explanation, curation rewards is the one thing that I found most difficult to understand. Also and on an unrelated note, is that Jewel Staite in the first gif? Absolutely loved her in Stargate: Atlantis.

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themobilewriter (48) · 7 years ago

It looks like a lot of maths to do. I can hardly spend 30 minutes on steemit daily. In this short time it is certainly hard to time upvotes. The only option that i have left right now is to curate the content that i have general interest in. This way i will be leaving everything on luck.

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hillaryoki (51) · 7 years ago

For most of us growing up on steemit seem to be in a hurry to upvote the big whales for some unclear reasons and having little or nothing to show as a reward for their activity.

I in particular was a quilty of this. I never had any curation reward voting for the already established big fishes. My curation rewards came in from voting the upcoming steemians with reputation between 45 and 50.

I think the 30 minutes time frame still remain our best bet if we truly seek to get curation reward otherwise, upvote if a content truly bless you with better information irrespestive of the time frame.

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

20-25 minutes is better in most cases, you will find you will receive more curation rewards by being earlier than the 33% you lose for being 20 minutes instead of 30 minutes.

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thecreativerebel (48) · 7 years ago

@hillaryoki I found myself upvoting those big whales out of habit for "Liking" posts on Facebook. Thanks to this great breakdown by @themarkymark I wont feel so bad holding back on the upvoting. ;)

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atmosblack (63) · 7 years ago

I just learned a lot! I guess, the 5 year old part got me. ;) Thank you!

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asulu.saint (25) · 7 years ago

we are new . and have a monthly blog that we believe is of benefit to the community here. we began posting yesterday. The only resources we have on how to upwell/ share our blogs effectively with everyone are informative posts like these from members who have more experience with the process. so information like this is very useful . How do we find or search for our own blogs in the feeds of the various tagged categories relevant to our post?

someone suggested to include our post in reply to other posts and comments etc. is this not appropriate to do ? what is the best practice? ultimately we want to share our information with as many people as possible on here . Thanks ... here is the blog hope it's ok to reference here but please inform us otherwise on best practices .

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billmega (53) · 7 years ago

Thanks for explaining.

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nbatt001 (25) · 7 years ago

Thanks a lot for all the times。

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jorlauski (58) · 7 years ago

Excellent explaination! One of the best I've read so far - It makes waaay more sense to me now - thanks for posting this - I really like your easy to understand teaching style - I saw a couple of of other blogs of yours that I want to read ...great job!

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giftedwords (55) · 7 years ago

thank you! you just enlighten me about how curator works keep up the good work @themarkymark.

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funatoz (63) · 7 years ago

A real intersting post and I do like it . It's add a many more knowlage to me . Thank you sir for your generous post

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lavanya (47) · 7 years ago

When my 100% voting power gives 0.01 $ and my vote is #1 for that post which get 100$ (for 150 votes) ,then how much I will get from curation rewards??

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hashash (37) · 7 years ago

Good post. I usually just upvote aimlessly. Now i have a better idea on how it works.

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shanajray (25) · 7 years ago

Omg I need this keep them coming for us newbies

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lalitswami (54) · 7 years ago

This is really great work.
I live it and thanks for sharing

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heworteit (28) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the great information! you are awesome.

Everyone reading this comment this is for you ,i would love to connect with you.Follow me i will follow in return

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adammillwardart (60) · 7 years ago

This was helpful, is it still accurate though? Followed you, thanks for being helpful on here. :)

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moriartyroue (48) · 7 years ago

Explain it to me like I am a five years old !
Thats what I needed and now I understand how it works.
Thanks for that :D

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fredkese (69) · 7 years ago

Been voting posts with large payouts. Thanks for sharing this @themarkymark

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

That’s usually the worst thing you can do for curation rewards. Unless you got in really early, ideally first 5.

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lavidaesunviaje (51) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the simple explanation!!! :)

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theuxyeti (64) · 7 years ago

Very helpful thank you

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bogglemcgee (48) · 7 years ago

This was super handy way to understand curation. I'm not fully there but this gave me enough to figure out the rest on my own. Thank you muchly

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leximiss (36) · 7 years ago

So where are the approximate lines for "minnow" & "whale"?

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ziyadhelmi (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

I've ever gottten appreciation from @buildawhale but till today I confuse how to get it again

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healthbasics (53) · 7 years ago

Probably one of the best posts on curation that I have come across. @themarkymark could you leave a comment so I can give you a upvote for this work?

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

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ziyadhelmi (56) · 7 years ago

I still confuse how to earn from curratin reward work,,,@themarkymark

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kofibeatz (52) · 7 years ago

This is interesting. I still don't understand it completely, but I appreciate the education you're providing @the markymark. Much love stunner..

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dukeung (43) · 7 years ago

Thanks... helpful contents.

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kirbyhopper (44) · 7 years ago

Whales voting on themselves sounds like a corrupt system.

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jayboss (45) · 7 years ago

Damm!... There i was thinking the more 60-70 something posts you upvote the more curation reward you earn.. Thanks @themarkymark for the tip..
I'm also loving your structure and how you arranged your entries to be catchy and informative... Thumbs up ones again....!

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robpyne (44) · 7 years ago

Thanks @themarkymark I am a minnow and that really helps me. Much appreciated.

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crypto-econom1st (57) · 7 years ago

This post is already quite old but since I still have a few questions let me just try to ask one and see if I get an answer.

Minnows will never get any curation, correct?

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

Not true at all.
In fact, you can get really good curation rewards with less than 1K SP.

It's just a lot harder as you have to manually curate really well whereas whales can blanket drop micro votes and do really well with no effort.

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crypto-econom1st (57) · 7 years ago

But then I need to upvote close to 30 minutes and after me some (small) whales need to vote. Or are there also different strategies?

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

For most people I recommend voting at 20 minutes or vote with your heart. Don’t follow the big trending posts as you will be so tiny in the giant pool.

If you can find things that you think are well under rewarded you can do really well if they get discovered.

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crypto-econom1st (57) · 7 years ago

If they get discovered, but how big is that chance? I guess very small.

So it is possible but almost impossible. And probably takes a lot of time.

So for now I will have fun by reading, commenting, posting and voting by heart.

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago

That Build A Whale animation is so ridiculous. Now I know what it looks like for a Whale to have an orgasm. LMAO

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

Wasn't a fan of it at first, then it grew on me as it is just funny.

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mellofello (68) · 7 years ago

Thanks @themarkymark. I am very new and have been finding piece meal strategies about curation rewards here and there. I'm so glad I stumbled upon your post even though I am four months late. This was a great post covering the full spectrum of curation strategies. All of your supporting evidence made perfect sense, especially when you said "let's look at the math." A light bulb illuminated after your two math examples. Now I am armed with knowledge of knowing when to pull the trigger. My vote is currently worth nothing, but I can develop best practices now and be set for the future when my votes will carry some weight. Thanks for caring and sharing.

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marianschulte (26) · 7 years ago

I just save the stuff I really like, that I will want to study further. It’s like I’m building my own library, or bibliography of sources that inspire me. In many different ways. I’m not so focused on money as others seem to be. Except I want to support journalists who display courage in order to protect freedom and prevent war. I admit I haven’t figured out the system. I’m interested in figuring out how to find good material, not how to make money. Making money is a secondary concern.

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vyvian (34) · 7 years ago

themarkymark, thank you so much for the explanation. I didn't know that. Makes sense. I'm new here, so I'm still learning.

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omitaylor (56) · 7 years ago

Thanks for posting this. I saw this in the footer of the other post you made today.

Okay, so I'm trying to keep my posts within a vote to value range so that people get curation from my post.

So you're saying for me to improve the incentive to those who autovote me:

If I self-upvote, I shouldn't upvote first.
If I use a bot, I should wait until my followers have all voted.
If I want them to max out, don't use multi-vote bots.

Is this accurate?

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cmplxty (62) · 6 years ago

Thanks for the info, learning lots each week about this platform!

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steemread (50) · 6 years ago

very informative post, than you.

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