Jeff Berwick and Mark Skousen on The Great Voting Debate at Freedomfest in Las Vegas, topics include: the politics of voting, voting and the constitution, consent, mandatory voting, moral voting, disenfranchisement, creating the world that you want, rights violations, the foolishness of central planning, government is a dangerous belief, the lesser of two evils, shrinking the size of government, complacency and virtue, voluntarism, the myth of authority, voting just encourages the bastards!
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I vote, and I do my best to communicate with others about the value of voting, but there is a cynical part of me which strongly identifies with the Emma Goldman, quote:
"if voting changed anything they'd make it illegal"
If you read her wiki, you see some striking, scary thoughts about voting:
"Goldman believed that voting was useless at best and dangerous at worst. Voting, she wrote, provided an illusion of participation while masking the true structures of decision-making."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman#The_state_%E2%80%93_militarism,_prison,_voting,_speech
Again, I vote, but it does seem true that between: gerrymandering, redlining, corporate donors, mass media focused news coverage, super pacs, superdelegates, and other unsavoury tactics the "democratic" process available to much of the "free" world, is at minimum, impaired.
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Sick quote. I agree with it. The election process is basically like a charade, as I see it, and best just not to give life to it.
I don't think there's anything technically wrong with voting (or running for office) tho, as some anarchists/voluntaryists will claim. It doesn't violate the non-aggression principle. I see it as just pointless and maybe a waste of energy.
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Phew what a debate!
Both are valid views and were well presented.
Well done!
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You have to vote. You cannot always hardfork your life, if You dont like your local goverment
Berwick lives in Mexiko right - apparently they have a communist regime right now, also without hin Not voting? Will he move away from acapulco? Probably not (anarchapulco)
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government indeed is a dangerous believe, living life with the hope of government kills faster than you can ever imagine.
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Of course no one should vote, if they are a true anarchist. Why repeating the same information over and over again... and no real action... plus Jeff kidnapped a child... so in reality a statist talking about anarchism...
btw the earth is flat.
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Great video Jeff. Always good to get reminded where my head need to be. Uv & Rs.
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Excellent video. I am totally with Jeff.
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I'm surprised you took sh%t from that @sshole. You're a better man than I am. I don't vote because it's the system which is rigged. A system they control which enslaves us into a false believe; an illusion of choice. Voting validates that they have control over us and yes, it does encourage them.
Stop Voting and send a CHILL up their spine.
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