Please do NOT think my lack of replies stem from a lack of interest; I am actually dying from a lack of RC, and I am unable to reply!

in hard-fork •  6 years ago 

My humble apologies to my Steemit friends! Please do not think me rude if I do NOT reply to your comments. I am SEVERELY limited on RC since the HF was turned on!

So just be aware that I am NOT ignoring you; I am just blocked by steemit software! BE BLESSED, and I hope you have more Resource Credits than I do! This blog is rapidly becoming a "check it once a week" website, by they own choice!

I will keep posting for a while, to see if this becomes any better as they keep promising; but now they claim this system is stable....

They may be right there, a horse in the stable can not possibly run in the race of life; so "stable" it is!

>:(

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I was experiencing a similar problem a few days ago, but someone other than me cleared up the issue for me. So I suppose you should be up a running in a few days...but then again all you can do is wait ;)

It is slow recovery, but I do NOT see how anyone can start a new account now. Since this was supposed to enhance enrolment I don't see it even staying even! This was badly thought out, at best!

>:(

I am trying to figure out what they were trying to improve...I feel sort of like they were wanting to run faster, so to reduce weight they cut off there leg?

Remove the Leg...or Head; I Can't understand what they were thinking. OR if they were thinking at all!

>:(

I do not feel that the decision helps to foster an inviting atmosphere, yesterday I was able to send one reply...then I ran out of lunch money :)

@cantaintj I understand, it is hard working around low RC values. Steemit Needs to step in and Help new accounts with direct SBD or with boosted RC values! This is process critical, and needs to be taken care of Today!

>:(

Hey, @captaintj.

Main issue is high use low SP accounts still don't have enough juice even with the 10 x booster patch that went in effect late Friday last week (I think that's what you're referring to). It's significantly better, but for those who are commenting quite a bit as well as posting fairly frequently, along with upvoting, it's still going to be an issue.

Hey, @glenalbrethsen

I did not fully understand why they said I used to not be able to post (I think they said I was low on something) in my mind if I was not low before, and I was not doing nothing diffrent,,,then I proably did not break anything!

So, before the hard fork that took place last week, the ability to do anything was based on bandwidth, which they handed out to start with, basically, and eventually people were able to earn enough Steem Power to have enough bandwidth available to do what they wanted to do.

With the hard fork, they got rid of bandwidth and changed to resource credits, which is based on Steem Power (SP), more or less. That means the more SP you have, the more you can do. Right now, it appears that somewhere north of 500 SP will work in many cases, unless you're a super user, and then you might have some trouble.

The hard fork made it impossible for most of us to transact because the recourse credits went to 0% and recharged from there. Once people had a percentage of their resources credits, they were able to function on a very limited basis, but that was mainly higher SP accounts.

Then, on Friday evening, a patch that basically makes the cost of doing things here 90% less than what they should be went into effect, and will continue for a while. How long depends on when they decide they have a viable solution, I think. They haven't quite come out with how this is all going to be resolved yet, other than some form of subsidizing will take place.

You didn't do anything, no one did, other than Steemit Inc and the witnesses. The rest of us are just bystanders in the whole deal.

Why do you think they decided to 'fix' the system? Does SP recharge (like a boxer arms recharge when he takes a break from swinging) I assume that current users on steemit are collateral damage (like high SP users are on a seesaw, Steemit Inc meant to improve the steemit platform but high sp users are harmed by unattended consequences.) Also why is it called a 'hard fork'?

With blockchains, updates to the system are called hard forks because it causes a split, or a new fork of the blockchain to take place. I guess it would be similar to changing from one car to the next while you're headed down the freeway. You're still going forward, but now you're in a different car as you do it. Hopefully, it's a newer, nicer, better performing vehicle. :)

I'm afraid I don't know all the reasons, or even the real reason. The official reason for the change to resource credits (RCs), which is only one change that took place, but the one causing the most grief currently, was to better gauge the costs of transactions on the blockchain and more fairly distribute those costs among the user base.

Everything we do has a cost to it, and they've been basically subsidized up until now. My guess is, Steemit Inc. doesn't want to continue doing that without some kind of collateral, ie, the users' SP. I'm not so sure how that all is supposed to work, but apparently the system has been looking at the cost loads of doing different things and is settling on what those costs are.

SP doesn't recharge. It's the RCs that do. SP is STEEM you have powered up in your account. It's what you've used to determine your percentage of control over the rewards pool (through the upvote amounts you can give). You can either power up more and increase it, or you can power down and then do whatever you like with the STEEM.

RCs, however, are like Voting Power. Depending on how much you do with it, can take seconds, minutes, hours or days to recharge. It depends on how much of it you have (based on SP), and what the cost is of those things you're doing. Comments and posts cost the most, powering up and other like transactions cost the least. Upvotes are somewhere in between.

You could certainly say there are accounts that are currently collateral damage in this change. High SP hasn't been affected. I'm not sure if they've ever been affected by anything, other than to improve their lot. Or so it seems. Other than to complain on behalf of lower SP accounts, I haven't read anything from a high SP account where the situation has been hampered.

I don't really consider myself high SP—I'm a large minnow—but I feel like I'm in a good place based on where we are at now, and even if they were to remove the patch. My account as is replenishes fast enough at the normal rate. I'd say the same holds true for any account that holds 2,000 SP on up. Below that, it will depend on how much everyone does.

It should be resolved by now. I could not even vote, much less comment until Saturday.

Hey, @mytechtrail.

It's been resolved for some, but the lower SP accounts are still finding it hard to do a lot for very long. If you're doing say a post, maybe 10 comments and some upvoting a day, you MIGHT be okay, but go beyond that and the RCs get depleted too quickly, and then take however long it takes to recharge. Someone has said it seems to be recharging at the same rate as voting power.

Be careful on length too. I was placing in the engagement league because I write long replies. but I was finding that it was charging me three comments for each one I wrote, so keep it brief!

Also move all your steem credits to power up. That helped me a lot!

:)

Hey @smithlabs, I’d love to delegate/give(however that works) some of my RC to ya! I don’t comment as much as I probably should. Any idea how I can do that? Does SP and RC directly correlate?
Ok, I see the irony in this, because now I’m not sure when you’ll be able to comment back to me...

hey, @hebrewhousewife.

Not trying to speak for smithlabs, but I believe if you were to delegate him some SP, that it would help. RCs are directly impacted by SP/Mvests, which from what I can tell, includes delegations. Since his SP is at 67, even small amounts are bound to improve his situation.

As far as I know, there's no way of delegating RCs directly, though someone may be working on that. :)

Thanks for the info glenalbrethsen! I went ahead and delegated and I see it upped his RC. Hopefully it was enough to where he can interact some now.

Nice! Looks like the 30 SP you delegated helped quite a bit. Maybe some more of us should do that. :)

I have a lot more RC now, and I appreciate it! This has been a rough couple of weeks! Thanks again!

:)

Well, @hebrewhousewife is to thank for that, but I'm glad you have more. It definitely has been a couple of rough weeks and I'm frankly ready for it to end. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but one way or the other all of us here need to be able to fully function.

It looks like they have changed the refresh time for RC from four days, to one day, to jump start the blog again, and to avoid loss of accounts, I don't know if the bots will return, but I would think that limiting access from a single internet sign in address would get most of them.

Sometimes the simplest solution is best!

>:(

You would think. That probably lends itself to privacy issues, then, and wouldn't stop someone from using a VPN. Not sure if there's other things that come to play. I really dislike saying any of that, though, because my main issue with all of this has been we're always told why we can't do some things but we don't ever seem to get around to the solution that fixes things.

In my mind, know your customer protocols should be put into place, however that can be done, and if you want more than one account, fine, but you still have a main account that they're all tied to. Being anonymous to the rest of the users and anonymous to the system entirely are too separate things. Someone with the authority to look at accounts from on high should be able to know which accounts belong to who at a glance.

As it stands, unless something has happened in the last day or two, account creation was only double digits since the hard fork, down from triple digits before that. They were four digit a day at least when I came in, sometimes five. So, the cost of creating accounts is causing an issue I think, even at the discounted level, or else there's something else mucking up the works.

I thank you again, I have enough left for one more post! You have allowed me to reply to those who commented to me, so they do not think I am rude, and I appreciate that!

This has been difficult to work through, and I usually post a lot, but the comments were also reduced, so it worked out. The only bot I liked was the Haikubot, but the rest were a waste of electrons! I hope it was worth it, ROFLOL!

:)

;)

You were right, SP delegation helped, and I could not reply, ROFLOL! Thank you for the nice gesture, and I will try to use it well!

It is also recovering faster now too.

:)

Hey @smithlabs, I delegated you 30 SP. I don’t know if it helped a ton, but it upped your RC’s some.

Thank you, it did help! I was not cruising for RC, But I do appreciate it! I will use it for replies! It was thoughtful of you, I have been very frustrated!

It bumped me from 67 to 97, and that makes a big difference! I wonder how this will help new accounts?

:)

I know you weren’t asking for anything, but I know how much you like to comment. I see you everywhere, but haven’t lately. And like I said, I don’t comment as much as I should..as you can tell lol!
I see you received even more delegations. That is awesome! Now you can go back to engaging like you were used to.

YOU started the process, thanks. He looked at what you did, and added some more. That has allowed me to catch up, which was frustrating because I hate to ignore people.

Some of the newbies I was bringing along have disappeared, so I need to see if they just left, or are RC limited. But now I have the chance to do so. I lost two in the Philippines I am unable to locate, and one in Germany. But I will find them if they are still on!

:'(

That really makes me wonder how can any newbies get anywhere, unless someone that referred them takes them under their wing and delegates to them?
One of the main ways to get going on here is by commenting a lot.
Oh, maybe they want a person to invest up front when they start?

Since they claimed they were going to increase new account sign ups with HF 2.X; I am NOT sure how....

As you say, this seems to be a silent blog for newbies; who have to post, to be noticed, and can NOT post....

Newbies, that are learning how to make the blog actually function, the first thing they hear is pay me. It will not happen, weku.com and minds.com are Free....

:(

Hey, Toby! According to the banner at the top of the screen, HF20 operations are stable. Curious!

Sadly they are right. It IS in the Stable, unfortunately they are supposed to be racing, not eating our oats! SMH!

>:(

Hey, @smithlabs.

I can't speak for everyone, but I do believe they would say what I'm going to, anyway.

There's no way anyone is going to think you rude for not replying to them, not while so many are in a similar situation as you.

I'm not sure how much more stabilization there's supposed to be. I think the focus is shifting now to subsidization, and not so much from Steemit Inc but from those who might have the SP.

Not sure what that's going to look like—the steemitblog in their latest update is opening it up to the witnesses and the community. I'm not so sure that gesture is because they don't have a ready made solution, but rather, trying at least the appearance of making up for all of the trouble they're causing smaller accounts by saying basically, "We're listening."

I'm not sure I believe it. I've asked when they're hoping to roll back the 10 x boost patch, because that will kill off all smaller accounts. There will be no actions possible under a certain amount of SP. So something has to be in place before that.

I'm not a big fan of discord, but if there were ever a time to become the squeaky wheel there, and find out where the movers and shakers are, this is probably it.

If they dump the 10X I will be an observer only. This is as effective in the results of the design intent for new accounts; as Obamacare was on healthcare costs.

But I will wait and see how it will turn out!

:)

Well, that's not a loaded statement or anything. :)

I am willing to go with you on that as far as it isn't helping small accounts, but as far as assigning nefarious intentions, I'm not able to at this point. Obamacare was designed to destroy the health care system. I'm hoping Hard Fork 20 wasn't designed to destroy small accounts, or STEEM, but that there are some people who are running around Steemit Inc with technology they don't fully understand who either don't think through the consequences or were willing to take the huge hit it's done to their already suspect reputation, not to mention the community's morale, for some larger purpose or outcome. In the end, I'm not sure those are the folks we want to be putting all our confidence into.

Well, I do not think they are EVIL like those that pushed obamacare. I think they have skill also, but someone at the top could use a little coaching on planning, and they all need remedial training on launch testing!

That said, If they leave the 10X in place, and I see they have increased the recharge time from 4 to one day, function is possible again, but the bots will return, so I fail to see how this helped. They throttled this entire system down to restrict them, but killed everyone; so now they are opening it back up to save the platform.

Would it not have been easier to just directly restrict bots, and let it run? Limiting the number of accounts to each internet access point would take care of the multiple accounts bandwidth problem. Maybe this should have used a less painful fix?

>:(

I was probably a couple of months in on Steemit when I asked a similar question about directly restricting bots. I figured they must be distinguishable from ordinary human backed accounts. What I was told then is, they're not, other than what they produce. Then, they can be backlisted but that doesn't necessarily shut them down or restrict them.

I think part of the issue is, once any account gets restricted for any reason, it opens the door for restricting any other account for any reason. And it's my understanding that the capability to restrict would need to be created since it doesn't exist in STEEM's current form.

i agree wholeheartedly that there's no use in letting the spammers come back. It would all be for naught. So, it comes down to determining what can be done to keep the spammers down but the actual honest human users going at the rate that they had grown accustomed to.

The latest post at steemitblog suggests that a subsidization of some actions by the rest of us is necessary so that new users or lower SP users can continue to function. In other words, they're abdicating responsibility (or delegating it if you prefer) to us to come up with a solution.

So, there's now that to throw into the mix.

re: EVIL

Yeah. I think genius and youth need to be tempered by more real world experience, and it's hard to get when all you've ever known is code and having your needs met, however that happens.

Well, someone delegated 150 SBD to my account last night, THAT changed things a lot! Woke up to a GOOD day on steemit for the first time in a while! Now I can respond and not be rude, when someone comments.

I have lost track of some of my friends over seas, but I hope they will be back soon. Everyone got beat up for sure!

If they removed the 0.001 steem curation rewards, the bot food would be gone, and they would starve. That would not hurt the people noticeably either.

:)

After hebrewhousewife delegated to you last night I looked at what it did, and while it certainly helped, I also saw it was going fast. So, I went ahead and delegated 151 SP to you this morning.

I'm still not convinced yet it's what you need to keep up the pace you're accustomed to but it should get you closer. I'm hoping they'll have a reasonable solution for everyone below 200 SP soon. So, my thought is to keep it in place until the end of the year, or a solution from the powers at be comes, whichever comes first.

It's yours to use in the interim, no strings attached. :) And as much as is possible here on the blockchain, I'd like to just let it go under the radar as much as possible. :)

I appreciate it, I have been trying to add good content, but his has been a couple of hard weeks for sure. I was just staring to get traction when this hit. I went from second in the engagement league, to fifth. Maybe I can catch up now.

I will work it hard! Maybe I can climb out of my pond scum status? Radar is off, but thanks!

:)

@smithlabs Maybe try Powering Up some of your earnings into Steem Power to increase your Resource Credits. I have basically dumped all my Steem into Powering Up over the last few months and I have a sufficient amount of Resource Credits to do everything I want to do. I checked your Resource Credits and account info with: https://steemblockexplorer.com/@smithlabs Just an idea. Good luck and best wishes!

Thanks, all good ideas, I did power up all I could. It is helping some.

:)

You are welcome!

Someone delegated me 150 sbd voting power last night! THAT really helped, I think I can function now! That was unexpected for sure!

But his morning was a brighter morning on Steemit.

:)

That was very kind of someone. Yay!

It really was! He wants to remain secret, and he has given me a chance to continue blogging unhampered,

But I wonder how this will help new accounts, as intended originally, that are not similarly blessed; and I do not see how that is possible!

New sign ups will be introduced to a silent blog; unless some real changes happen soon!

:)

Yeah I have been curious also about how new accounts can possibly grow under these kinds of restrictions. It really makes sense from the perspective of fighting spam but it also seems like it would make it nearly impossible for new account holders to gain any real traction.

I agree totally! I was dead in the water myself, without help, and I have worked hard for almost a year to get to that point! I don't see how anyone could post enough to become noticed and build their reputation under HF restrictions.

I bet a lot of new sign ups become cob web accounts in the first month!

:'(