This is called the HIVE AirDrop Exclusion List. (HIVE 에어드랍 제외 대상 목록이라고 합니다.)

transisto (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

Anyone who contributed to have 90% of the chain controlled by one server controlled by one entity for months is not welcome on this new chain.

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dj123 (60) · 5 years ago

Yup... totally agree, but someday, we gotta be open to the idea that Hive will hardfork into another chain, say
LIBERTY (FromAssholesWhalesStakeHolder)... and then folks will mass powerdown Hive and sell it to oblivion after the hardfork like what's going to happen to Steem. The precedent has been set. I look forward to doubling my HIVE when that happens.

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bmanmcfly (47) · 5 years ago

This one raises one of the major concerns I was thinking when the Hive split off; they claimed that they were going to maintain the 'account' on the new servers.

Let's think about that for a moment.

You have an account at bank A, the managers at the bank have an argument with the CEO, so, they decide that they will create bank B across the street and will maintain the accounts and the values of them.

You as a user have an account at bank A and a duplicate at bank B; you can then sell off your accounts and double the funds.

Simply, if cryptos were treated as a type of security, there would be a group of people who would be going to jail for 10-20 years a piece for pulling this kind of stunt.

We should each (ESPECIALLY people who invested real money into the platform) be asking ourselves how we can maintain trust in a system that can be torn apart and redistributed because of those within the community with the most influence?

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therealmadnessj (43) · 5 years ago

I couldnt have said it better my self. Well spoken 👏

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@therealmadnessj @bmanmcfly

felipejoys (71) · 5 years ago (edited)

wow. so. I have to say. your example doesn't work with physical money. doubling a list doesn't double funds... but if you use monopoly in the example, it would be perfect

investing is not zero risk. a sucessful investor has to stay updated

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bmanmcfly (47) · 5 years ago

Well, yes, copying physical money is illegal, but when you get into reserve banking, only about 10% of the money is physically printed, so, the effect would be the same, so, copying the account and promising to honor the value creates the same effect (never would happen in the real world).

But it does double the funds; or at least the coins at the rate they can be traded at.

Ex; when the split happens, you have a 10k account valued at 5k. That means you doubled the coins, and if the value remained (it shouldn't) you will have doubled the value.

I realize it's far from a perfect analog, but for real, if cryptocurrencies were treated as securities, Sun and all the witnesses would EACH be facing 10-20 years in pound you in the ass federal prison. Make no mistake about it.

Your counter goes to show that crypto currencies are effectively a ponzi scheme in that the value of the 'investment' depends on new investment dollars coming in.

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felipejoys (71) · 5 years ago (edited)

what I meant is the 2nd bank owner would have to put actual money into it to make it work. which would be stupid since he would have to provide enough money for all of his client's withdrawals. otherwise I would see my bank account having $5000, try but fail to withdraw. because the actual money is not there. it is completely different because the money has to be there

crypto currencies are effectively a ponzi scheme

what. no. what do you think steem originally is, by design? the blockchain itself perfectly serves it's purpose. people who like consuming content get on it and optionally support authors they like. people who like creating content post their stuff here because it might pay off. it works. it is perfect.

people don't understand steem because they don't want to. all they want to see is a pile of numbers. there is a lot more to it than numbers. bitcoin is all numbers. that could be considered a ponzi scheme. anything that is nothing but numbers may fall into that category. not steem

but I guess it is a pointless argument since not a single fucking witness ever wanted to actually work on mass adoption, which is, free instant registrations. from this perspective, they're all retarded

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felipejoys (71) · 5 years ago

ps: 10% of a lot of money is still a lot of money. actual physical money is not an idea, it is simply fiat money. utility tokens have nothing to do with it. utility tokens are basically companies pushing out a product, not actual fiat money

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jza (63) · 5 years ago

You cant, but same thing will happened if the company you invested for files for bankruptcy.

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https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/vitalik-buterin-calls-eos-tron-and-neo-centralized-piece-of-trash-201902080151

ackza (72) · 5 years ago

theyre both already super cheap but will all end up like golos, so will eops. All @dan larimer chains are scams now

Only telos is the right chain with real governance. Steem and EOS are still useful. hive is more centralized than steem because you saw how fast they moved like a vertically integrated centralized organism lol.

Vitalik and Tone Vays were right

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vegeta (53) · 5 years ago (edited)

That's the issue with DPOS though, you can buy enough stake to control the chain.

gonzo (68) · 5 years ago (edited)

@transisto
I'm very curious to know if you are currently in charge of all the decisions regarding the Hive fork and if this was your decision or if others were involved?

Edit: I'm referring to the exclusion of investors who voted for the sock puppet witnesses.

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madalchemist (52) · 5 years ago

You are still controlled by a ninja mined stake, all witnesses will be decided by @freedom

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transisto (74) · 5 years ago

That's a good point, I'm equally disgusted by the ninja-mined stake there. btrade and freedom, at least btrade is participating and trying to add value, Freedom, not so much.

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drutter (69) · 5 years ago

Nothing like using a centralized solution to thwart an attempt at centralization, eh?

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pfunk (72) · 5 years ago (edited)

LOL! Enjoy the centralized pump and dump network you voted for. Hive doesn't airdrop on the people who voted to attack it.

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mammasitta (70) · 5 years ago

How ridiculous to call it : „ethnic cleansing“ when you just get rid of assholes 🙀

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stayoutoftherz (68) · 5 years ago

Bleibst Du etwas auch hier? Ich hoffe, Du kommst auch zu Hive!

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mammasitta (70) · 5 years ago

Bin schon auf Hive aber gerade am Umstellen, power down etc .....meanwhile poste ich auf APPICS und das sieht man ja noch hier.

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appalachain (53) · 5 years ago

Yea, ^^^ that is a hilariously crappy piece of propaganda.

"H" Who is censoring posts?
"I" Is so stupid I don't even know where to start.
"V" Justin took aggressive actions, A TEMPORARY hold was put on the steemit inc. funds, in defense of everyone on this chain, till there was clarification. It absolutely justified.
"E" Folks from all over the world are over on Hive, including some Koreans. So..... That can objectively be labeled Absolute Bullshit.

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dgiors (60) · 5 years ago

#GodwinsLaw
At least in what the "E" stands for.

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nspart (71) · 5 years ago (edited)

I missed all of this... I was over posting via Dporn and surviving the Pandemic. I have not touched my voting setting in 2 years probably.

So what exactly happened with Hive?

I know Justin Sun bought Steemit and people didn't like the idea. Now what?

Do we get the tokens like in all major forks?

How does this affect the content creators?

How do you move to the new platform or just make a new account?

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https://peakd.com/communityfork/@hiveio/announcing-the-launch-of-hive-blockchain

pfunk (72) · 5 years ago

So what exactly happened with Hive?

Do we get the tokens like in all major forks?

Yep, equal to what you had on Steem when Hive launched.

How does this affect the content creators?

Post on Hive, we're all there. You can post on Steem too, but a lot of people aren't curating here anymore. It seems pointless to add content to a fucked up platform being run into the ground by the idiot who bought Stinc.

How do you move to the new platform or just make a new account?

Use https://hive.blog if you like steemit.com although https://peakd.com, the Hive version of SteemPeak, is pretty nice.

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nspart (71) · 5 years ago

Thanks!

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nuancedthought (44) · 5 years ago

THEY LITERALLY TOOK THE MOST DECENTRALIZED OPTION.

LET THE COMMUNITY DECIDE THE FATE OF THOSE WHO ATTACKED THE VALUES OF DECENTRALIZATION

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pangoli (69) · 5 years ago

the community didnt decide anything. The witnesses did. the community didn't vote for the exclusion of accounts.

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moeknows (60) · 5 years ago

The excluded account can make an appeal to the community on #Hive

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manniman (63) · 5 years ago

Go cheer to your new Führer J. Sun who meanwhile controles something around 100-110Million STEEM, bought in a private deal from N. Scott.. You stay on STEEM, you'll never be free and you know it. Whatever, life is too short, I don't care.

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scottcbusiness (72) · 5 years ago

Why was I included I proxied Dan and only had set my votes before that years ago

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clixmoney (76) · 5 years ago

I think they have a way to appeal for that. Check their discord server or message any witness to help you with that. I'm sure they will understand your situation. At least I hope so.

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clixmoney (76) · 5 years ago

https://peakd.com/me/proposals you can find a group of people and gather money ( hive coin ) and create a proposal. Once you create it, let me know about that and I will vote. Maybe more hive people will vote and those who didn't get the ardrop will get it.

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lukestokes (75) · 5 years ago

How do you define "blockchain"? Is it just a centralized database controlled by one person or something more? How can you support someone who intends to run a blockchain like a centralized database? "Ethnic cleansing" is absolutely ridiculous. This isn't about race at all, it's about those who chose to attack Steem and made it clear by their actions they are not interested in what Hive represents (decentralization).

That said, I didn't agree with the criteria used or the subjective method for how it was determined. I understand the perspective of those who came up with it, but I would have preferred to just exclude the Steemit ninja-mined stake just as v0.22.2 did. You can read my witness post here for more details. Those who were excluded can submit a proposal to get their Hive tokens, as far as I understand.

Don't forget your steem is treated the same.

Maybe something is lost in translation here, but what do you mean by this? Do you mean in the future Hive might restrict your tokens? I would not support that as long as I'm a witness. This initial launch of Hive is about separating out those who actively attacked Steem by centralizing it.

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truce (73) · 5 years ago

Link to submit proposal because i rushed to action when this all first started and left a couple witnesses selected by mistake before i found out who was who, and boom i'm forked out of the airdrop. Let me know if/when they have a link for this.

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lukestokes (75) · 5 years ago

I'm not sure what the overall solution will be, but I suggest keeping track of proposals here: https://peakd.com/me/proposals

I hope something gets worked out.

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cryptosharon (69) · 5 years ago

Head over to the Discord and chat people up. I'm sure you'll find a solution.

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glory7 (80) · 5 years ago

Judging from the previous conversation, I believe that you are worth talking to.

You read lots of replies (including some on your own posts) or postings that explicitly say "korea" and/or "chinese". I don't think we need more evidence.

I am still waiting for the official airdrop and launch to confirm. Yet, such discriminate behavior contradicts the main value of Hive - decentralization.

Will write more after the fork. Good luck.

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transisto (74) · 5 years ago

The criteria is clear,
1 vote for more than 2 fake witnesses and has more than 1000.SP

Do you not get the intent of this selection?

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friendlystranger (56) · 5 years ago

Unfortunately, the criteria is not clear. Take a look at my votes.
It will come back to you like a ninja mining stake.
Shady start once again.

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transisto (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

Sorry to see that, Did you apply to the airdrop appeal?

Edit: I see that you will get your token and it was a mistake.

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donekim (81) · 5 years ago

Hey Luke, as you can see on this post, @proxy.token has voted both side of them to buy time to talk each other. Many of Kr members wanted to protect this place. But initial launcher of Hive has treated us like a stranger or sock puppet of tron.

Every STEEM holder has their own voting right to 30 witenesses. That is a fundamental utility of STEEM. But you guys has excluded accounts that has voted to tron 2 or more. Do you think this is reasonable and decentralized way? How could you..

You guys already did violation of property right 2 times. HIVE is the most centralized and censorship-powered blockchain ever.I don't want to see the token listing of Permissioned blockchain on our Korean crypto-exchange.

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cryptosharon (69) · 5 years ago

Your property is not being touched. You owned STEEM, you still own your STEEM. What you don't own is HIVE, but you never owned it, so no one has touched your property.

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donekim (81) · 5 years ago

Sorry, who's this?

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cryptosharon (69) · 5 years ago

doesn't matter

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moeknows (60) · 5 years ago

Word. Truth is truth regardless of who says it.

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felipejoys (71) · 5 years ago

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ngc (66) · 5 years ago

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z8teyb289qav9z (70) · 5 years ago

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sirvotesalot (68) · 5 years ago

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ngc (66) · 5 years ago

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fknmayhem (70) · 5 years ago

You tried playing kingpin. It wasn’t sustainable. I loathe to say it but proxy.token’s return was the worst powerplay I’ve ever seen.

Nevertheless I totally appreciate that PT switched to maintaining a no HF status and I absolutely do not support a free platform where one can not vote freely. In this whole situation, ever since 22.2, nothing has gone right. Nobody EVER made any positive moves, it was a never-ending disaster, made worse day after day.

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donekim (81) · 5 years ago

OMG! Another leech is coming. A real disaster is Steem has lots of farmers, like you, til now.

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fknmayhem (70) · 5 years ago

Thank you for the compliments. Sadly enough, I actually do support the PT side in the airdrop debate. I also did express my respect for installing the status quo.

I guess not, I guess I’m merely a leech and a farmer apparently. Too bad about all the time I invested in steem, without actually posting.

Enjoy your day and your pedestal. See you!

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pangoli (69) · 5 years ago

True, man.

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crypticat (70) · 5 years ago

Ethnic Cleansing? That's a little harsh, maybe hostile to counterview is warranted.

joshman (70) · 5 years ago

The ethnic group of people who vote for fake witnesses to subvert community consensus.

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cryptosharon (69) · 5 years ago

Well, they did happen to share an ethnicity, but plenty from other ethnicities are also excluded from the airdrop due to their choice to support a centralized hostile takeover.

cloudspyder (59) · 5 years ago

That's horrible.

chekohler (70) · 5 years ago

Why do you care if HIVE isn't going to give you any free tokens? You still have your steem, let people do what they want with their stake

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tryp (46) · 5 years ago

Why wouldn't they? Hive is a steem fork and the existence is going to crash steem. If the community was going to leave to a new chain and exclude everyone but you, you would probably be pretty annoyed about it as well.

let people do what they want with their stake

Says the person defending the exclusion of certain steemians stake.

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chekohler (70) · 5 years ago

Boo hoo, should have thought of that before siding with Justin!

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truce (73) · 5 years ago

Some people made mistakes voting for the wrong ppl in the confusion while trying to help and now will be possibly excluded smh (including me) I shoulda just sat on my hands and done nothing maybe? This is crazy.

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tryp (46) · 5 years ago

They didnt side with Justin, try and keep up here. They voted for enpugh witnesses to keep a power balance and stop either side from hard forking and encouraged communication.

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chekohler (70) · 5 years ago

So then they can stick with steem! Looking for some scapegoat for a free lunch is lame, get over it and move on, we all have

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tryp (46) · 5 years ago

So then they can stick with steem!

Again, they didnt side with justin.

Looking for some scapegoat for a free lunch is lame, get over it and move on, we all have

Thats a real strong statment coming from someone who is going to be stuffing his face with that free lunch.

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chekohler (70) · 5 years ago

Lol oh wow as if its a life-changing amount, look at me and my few extra digital cents, seriously?! You're just looking for a bone to pick!

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tryp (46) · 5 years ago

Hey why dont you show me up and send your hive to @null instead of sitting here boasting about how you already gotten over other people not getting the same benefits that you are.

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mightypanda (64) · 5 years ago

Yea, they just make a ransom to remove downvotes and shorter power down.

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tryp (46) · 5 years ago

You mean the things Justin Sun wanted to do in the first place? They prevented Sun from hard forking the chain so that they could demand he do the things he wanted to do?

Fucking lol, again, as I asked the other guy. Please show the proof of this claim.

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mightypanda (64) · 5 years ago

Proxy token posted a whole fucking post. Asking witnesses to comment on those topics. U claim to know whats going on but completely oblivious of everything that went on in last 2 weeks.

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https://staging.busy.org/@sct/proxy-token-proxy-token-witness-voting-policy

mightypanda (64) · 5 years ago

Read it and be enlightened.

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tryp (46) · 5 years ago

Thank you for posting a source, I actually found another one up in their blog. That said, I really don't see these as demands. More like figuring out who to vote for. You made it sound like they were threatening to vote for Sun if the demands weren't met. Or visa versa.

The only witness they were voting for that answered postively seems to be timcliff. In the post in their blog ausbitbank gave a flat no and they voted him. There were plenty of others who would give them what ever they wanted. I didn't see a comment from blocktrades or yabbapmatt or roelandp, but I doubt thats the kind of thing they would support.

These are real people you know, and unlike Sun they bought their steem at market value. They should be able to vote for witnesses that aline more to their values.

Thats what literally every other voter does.

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revisesociology (73) · 5 years ago

I see your mate's on the list, I guess he'll be moaning about that.

Sad not to see crystalieu or however you spell it there.

I was also wondering whether blockbrothers might be on there, they did kind of say they were happy to consider working with Sun.

Work, why would you want to do a thing like that!?

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foxon (53) · 5 years ago

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alexs1320 (71) · 5 years ago

Yet another proof that we are dealing with ideologically possessed communists who don't believe in private property rights.

What a lovely message for all the investors and users.

If you don't like our commy utopia, we will excommunicate you.

This is their vision of decentralization :D

LOL

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aristak (53) · 5 years ago

If Steemit and/or Hive are censoring what doesn't suit them, I'm not agree with any website because of being better than Steemit or better than Hive. Personally, I don't want to keep good/evil with any one. This competence is ridiculous & inmature to me.
I don't know why the %&@~=! are Hive fighting against Steemit & viceversa.
They dont seem decentralized websites ¡They seem political parties!

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rafalski (66) · 5 years ago

Make your own fork and exclude anyone you want.

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coininstant (66) · 5 years ago

How exactly do we appeal?

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peacefulpatriot (45) · 5 years ago

I I don't like any type of hegemony where money or a platform is concerned. The curators and main authors of steem pretty much ran it how they wanted and rarely cared to bring the best the platform had to offer to new users. Seems like as long as a stranger isn't the oppressor were all good? Decentralization is decentralization. it isnt a sales pitch. its a lifestyle.

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dailyke20 (73) · 5 years ago

what can I say? I didn't even know what I've supported because I voted @justyy as my proxy.

来自于 [WhereIn Android] (http://www.wherein.io)

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clixmoney (76) · 5 years ago

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hyokhyok (77) · 5 years ago

저들에게 프록시토큰의 보팅은 유지되나요?

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kopasi (70) · 5 years ago

지금 철회 했습니다.

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karenmckersie (74) · 5 years ago

Hi @kopasi I am kind of pissed off as I was eagerly waiting to Join Hive today I logged in and my wallet does not work it just says "Host Error" so I can't upvote or comment or do anything. I thought it was suppose to mirror Steemit. I have been on Steemit for almost 4 years, this is not a good intrduction to the new HIVE Platform.😵

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pfunk (72) · 5 years ago

Hey Karen, don't fret! Your account has its share of the airdrop just as it was on Steem at the time of the fork: https://hiveblocks.com/@karenmckersie

Any issues you're experiencing are temporary hiccups that will happen when something like this occurs. I believe https://peakd.com (SteemPeak but for Hive) should work for you.

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karenmckersie (74) · 5 years ago

Oh ok that's awesome, thanks so much for your reply @pfunk !✌✊👍

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karenmckersie (74) · 5 years ago

Now when I check my wallet it says "Access Denied" I will try tomorrow, today is a bust!✊💪

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karenmckersie (74) · 5 years ago

@pfunk I tried the peakd link and can't figure out how to log in, it directed me to log into GitHub for some reason even though I have keychain, so I signed up for GitHub and still can't figure out how to log into Hive , no wonder people don't sign up for these things, lol Im giving up after an hour of wasted time try9ng to go on Hive again today Why does it now say Access Denied!? It would be so much easier if I could just log into my wallet like everyone else, I guess I will just stay on Steemit, thanks for the help!

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alucian (64) · 5 years ago

Try to log in the Hive.com or Peakd.com now. ;-) It should work fine for a development of little bit more than 3 weeks. :-)

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cnts (64) · 5 years ago

same for me pfunk back from a hiatus.. do i just use my password to sign into hive? regards cnts

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pfunk (72) · 5 years ago

Yes. https://hive.blog will work just like Steemit, and you can use https://peakd.com with your posting and optionally active key using Peaklock or with the Hive Keychain browser add-on.

All accounts and credentials carried over to Hive.

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https://steemit.com/steem/@truce/here-is-the-list-of-justin-s-witnesses

truce (73) · 5 years ago

@kopasi please look into this, when the confusion started i placed votes on people who i thought where the original witnesses and i even made a post educating people about who the different witnesses are

Once I found out who i believed where the different witnesses are i went BACK into the vote list and did my best among the confusion to ensure all my votes where correct. I apparently missed a couple as a obvious mistake. Why would i vote all original witnesses and leave two or more new ones voted for on purpose?? This was all done before I knew anything about hive. I have over 58k steem and now i will be excluded from the fork due to this??

I had my vote for @therealwolf for since i can remember and only started trying to vote otherwise when everyone said they needed my help. Now boom i get excluded. As of reading this i have removed all my votes other than for sure original names that I know for sure where not new witnesses. I am requesting that my case be re-evaluated as I planned to move to hive. Any feed back is much appreciated.

The current witnesses I have votes for is as follows:

@steemitboard
@blockbrothers
@arcange
@therealwolf
@aggroed
@drakos
@yabamatt
@anyx
@steempress
@gtg
@themarkymark

Not sure what 2 or more witnesses I had voted for that caused me to be on this list but if I populated on this list then it must be from prior to me finding out who is who. There has been quite the confusion and i'm sure I am not the only one.

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geekgirl (72) · 5 years ago

Hey @truce. I think what you need to do is create a proposal using the proposal system on Hive. Basically saying what you wrote in your comment. Then community will vote. Based on that you will get your airdrop. Before you create a proposal maybe get more clarification how to properly do it in Hive’s discord.

Good luck!

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truce (73) · 5 years ago

Ok thanks, will do.

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clixmoney (76) · 5 years ago

How to create a proposal in hive ? Any link please ?

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geekgirl (72) · 5 years ago

I don’t know yet. I would ask people on discord or wait for an announcement with instructions.

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truce (73) · 5 years ago

any word?

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geekgirl (72) · 5 years ago

Read this regarding second airdrop: https://peakd.com/hive/@blocktrades/quick-update-on-hive-related-activities-at-blocktrades

Read comments in that posts too. Some answer the question on airdrop on excluded accounts.

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geekgirl (72) · 5 years ago

Read the following post. Looks like your were excluded by a script error.
https://peakd.com/hiveblockchain/@hiveio/community-discussion-updates-hive-airdrop-exclusion-core-developer-meetings

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clixmoney (76) · 5 years ago

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dannykass (46) · 5 years ago

If you don't decentralize the chain enough then bad actors will attempt to take advantage.

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rosepac (55) · 5 years ago

I care very little, but every step you take. Show more. You only talk about decentralization. Because you have to talk about something with which you will defend yourself from your actions.

A decentralized chain would never have absolutely excluded anyone. Bitcoin has never excluded anyone or anything.

Continue your project, in which each step you take and presume to take.

You show more.

That you are not much more than the same of what you accuse the new majority owner of Steemit.

Congratulations, for your terrible contradictions.

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chadmichaellibby (1) · 5 years ago

These guys just destroyed my already small reputation for having these same concerns.

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mightypanda (64) · 5 years ago

I don't understand what you guys are complaining about. You were happy with steem as long as there's no downvote and shorter power down. Both those things are not present in HIVE and you still have all your steem tokens as before.

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mehta (80) · 5 years ago (edited)

@mightypanda You will know this correctly, if steemit blocks your steem account after buying steem from hard earn money. And you are not in a situation to do anything for release of funds. Think....
@justinsunsteemit how about this.

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mightypanda (64) · 5 years ago

Ned said he disclosed ninja mine stake. Still justin bought thinking he would make a quick buck. Didnt work out well. I genuinely want to know why these guys want to get on hive chain. It has all the things they did not like abt steem on thr. And since hive token is an airdrop and not a swap what they they r complaining abt.

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mehta (80) · 5 years ago

@kopasi I am also don't like the situation. You can see my thoughts on this by post
https://steemit.com/hive-186042/@mehta/our-thoughts-supporting-20-witness-justinsunsteemit-hive-punishment
Can you know how to contact Mr. Justin Sun? If you have something let me know at discord with same id.

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https://www.gong4b.xyz/2020/04/odisha-road-safety-quiz-competition.html

bhue (2) · 5 years ago

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agar (61) · 5 years ago

한국 분들은 거의 스팀에 남겠네요...

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deniskj (63) · 5 years ago

You reap what you harvest.

Enjoy your centralized chain.

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fur2002ks (79) · 5 years ago

kr 많은 분들 제외군요!! 저도... 잘가라 하이브~

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travelnepal (65) · 5 years ago

i was amazed to see my name in the list. where i set @theycallmedan as proxy 18 days ago

here is my txn id : https://steemd.com/tx/afe89ab8fdcd6e32cbb9c1e30b530cd82a0f7a4c?fbclid=IwAR1tKRlCkrwHNPhFqJu8KPm1-LB2PllkajSXh-0QddnO3Q0gY1yy3g0Ts70

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informationwar (62) · 5 years ago

I thought about this for a while and there's no way around the fact that this list must be addressed. Sooner rather than later.....
Apologies it took so long to notice, it has been a very hectic few days and week.

^ who owns these accounts @sirvotesalot @ngc @z8teyb289qav9z @innerhive that were flooding comment sections from around 5 hours to 0 hours ETA for the HIVE snapshot of the STEEM blockchain to be taken?

Upvoted by @aagabriel for having similarities to the #informationwar tag, posts like this anyone can add the tag #informationwar so we can more easily find and upvote them! (by @aagabriel)

Our purpose is to encourage posts discussing Information War, Propaganda, Disinformation, and Liberty. We are a peaceful and non-violent movement that sees information as being held back by corrupt forces in the private sector and government. Our Mission.
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informationwar (62) · 5 years ago

I thought about this for a while and there's no way around the fact that this list must be addressed. Sooner rather than later.....

Apologies it took so long to notice, it has been a very hectic few days and week.

Upvoted by @aagabriel for having similarities to the #informationwar tag, posts like this anyone can add the tag #informationwar so we can more easily find and upvote them! (by @aagabriel)

Our purpose is to encourage posts discussing Information War, Propaganda, Disinformation, and Liberty. We are a peaceful and non-violent movement that sees information as being held back by corrupt forces in the private sector and government. Our Mission.
Discord, website, youtube channel links here.

Ways you can help the @informationwar!

Upvote this comment or Delegate Steem Power. 25 SP 50 SP 100 SP 200 SP 300 SP 500 SP
Click here and you can join the #informationwar curation trail and auto upvote fellow InformationWar writers!
Tutorials on all ways to support us and useful resources here

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cnfund (70) · 5 years ago

i was amazed to see my name in the list.
i set @justyy as proxy a few months ago.
After that, I didn't manage that.
I'm innocent.
What else can I do now?
Thanks.
......

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gerber (63) · 5 years ago

Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp

nothing about race here...

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ammonite (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

I'll just leave this here for no reason.

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dj123 (60) · 5 years ago

lol well as an investor, I can't be more pleased with how things turned out, I manage to sell 1/2 my Steem for 8000 Satoshis, and remaining 1/2 I got free Hive from Bittrex which I can freely trade now. Just waiting for Hive to get bid up by fomo investors before selling my stake on bittrex for even greater profits....to much ego an too little thinking = opportunity.

Justinsun and witnesses have full control now. If you want you guys can do whatever you want, here are some extreme examples:

a) make 1 day powerdown for ONLY the exclusion list and of course justinsun's friends like binance.

b) Freeze all Hive benefactors, the old witness, dolphines, orcas, and whales who are now doing 100% powerdown OR freeze their transfer in a hardfork that say > 5,000 SP, so they can sell and dump Steem until it goes down 90% value from 2600 Satoshi to like 260 Sats to pushing existing Steem users.

c) Hell... you can just mute all the big Hive accounts on Steem with a hardfork...

Basically the possibilities are endless.

BUT

Unfortunately, you don't have much time. The big powerdown starts coming down in 3 days time....then Steem will crash unless they can't sell. Good luck talking to Justin to get his support to take action now.

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leoak (44) · 5 years ago

Justin sun is a cancer to this space. We just need to kick it out and work on projects

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epitt925 (79) · 5 years ago

한국 유저들은 거의다 뺀다고 보면 되겠네요

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kopasi (70) · 5 years ago

그런거 같습니다. 재미진 친구들이예요.

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networkallstar (59) · 5 years ago

I think a few things are getting mashed up here. I believe there big is a difference between having another opinion and controlling the ecosystem in which the opinion is expressed...

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sharatdotinfo (52) · 5 years ago

So some people were penalized for voting?

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oryans.belt (62) · 5 years ago

How do you sign into Hive with your Steem keys?

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reinaldo55 (18) · 5 years ago

Quieres hacer algo productivo para ti/por ti en esta cuanentena?, Listo a que te presento anda a este link: shrinkme.io/DDw9I9Yl

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edwardhy (36) · 5 years ago

HIVE

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rynow (71) · 5 years ago

I see my name is on the list of people voting for 2 x sockpuppets or gave a proxy to somebody who voted for them. According to me I did not give any proxies. I know I voted for goodguy24 by mistake and changed immediately when I was made aware. I also changed all my witness votes to the top real steem witnesses as soon as the trouble started in order to help get them to the top. I also started powering down immediately.

Please let me know of the details why I am on the list!!

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abu.hair (46) · 5 years ago

How to join hive AirDrop?

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famigliacurione (70) · 5 years ago

HIVE Could Face a Massive Class Action Lawsuit for Intellectual Property Theft

A group of rogue members of the Steem blockchain community have unilaterally copied the intellectual property of millions of content creators without even the slightest decency to even attempt to seek their consent...

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banguri (81) · 5 years ago

kr 을 의도적으로 배척하네요.
고민하지 않게 알아서 해 줘서 고맙네요.

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elangelgabriel (50) · 5 years ago

Man fuck this shit, Im the anti-community guy, that mf always against everybody, well thats me, idk just fuck yall, like fo real. Yall better love how Justin an CZ are playing this Blockchain shit like a monopoly, those are the ones who are going to get rich, nobody wants decentralization we just wnat money just admit it

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woolgom (63) · 5 years ago

하이브가 도대체 뭔지...?;;;;;;;

Posted using Partiko iOS

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edwardhy (36) · 5 years ago

hi hive

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littleboy (72) · 5 years ago

What hostile to property rights bullshit? It is an airdrop. The hive community decides who they want to airdrop tokens to. They aren't taking away your tokens.

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decentralizd (62) · 5 years ago

imagine being retarded.

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alucian (64) · 5 years ago

Now Steem looks like a frozen Account machine. For me it was the right desicion to drive for Hive. This "new" persons with a stake and power i never knowed from @ned s talking like: "there is no ninja-mined stake" is a try to get on new way´s and i get my work with it. My work here on the chain is why i leave. I would know other people have more soul in this blockchain than a scammer like justin and his follower. His tron is a joke and scam, like so many other "blockchains" (Lohol) in the new Crypto Ecosystem. Where i am able to mine Tron? Now i "mine" Hive as a witness in the future.

Have a good time on the same you called the fork.

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ultravioletmag (73) · 5 years ago

can someone tell me how you can withdraw from hive? have tried every exchange your registered on and just get transaction broadcast error.

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digitalgoldmine (10) · 5 years ago

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dj123 (60) · 5 years ago

Lol.... not sure if they are hackers. But great opportunist, they surely are.

Well as an investor, I can't be more pleased with how things turned out, I figured there was a hardforked planned, and I knew the exchanges will likely support as well as freeze for maintenance (per usual with a coin fork). I manage to sell 1/2 my Steem for avg close to 8000 Satoshis, and remaining 1/2 I got free Hive from Bittrex which I can freely trade.

Now, I'm just waiting for Hive to get bid up by fomo investors (aka bag holders) before selling a nice portion of my stake on bittrex for even greater profits....to much ego an too little thinking = opportunity.

Justinsun and witnesses have full control now. If you want you guys can do whatever you want, here are some extreme examples:

A) make 1 day powerdown for ONLY the exclusion list and of course justinsun's friends like binance and houbei.

B) Freeze all Hive benefactors, the old witness, dolphines, orcas, and whales who are now doing 100% powerdown OR freeze their transfer in a hardfork that say > 1,000 SP (Same as what they did to you guys), so they can't sell and dump Steem until it goes down 90% in value from 2600 Satoshi to like 260 Sats to push existing Steem users out (and trust me they will do this, I already have right at Steem's last peak price in Satoshis).

C) Hell... you can just mute all the big Hive accounts on Steem with a hardfork...... but what would be the fun in that?

Basically the possibilities are endless.

BUT

....Unfortunately, you don't have much time. The big powerdown starts coming down in 2-3 days time (or at least until Bittrex allows deposits....Thank god i took the gamble and deposited into Bittrex before the shit hit the fan!)....then Steem will crash unless these big duo Steem/Hive stake holders can't sell.

Good luck trying to talk to Justin to get his support to take action now.

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digitalgoldmine (10) · 5 years ago (edited)

Sounds like fun to me lolz. The Bees/Steemit Classic are focused on stealing steemit.com's audience, they deserve whatever is coming to them.

B) Freeze all Hive benefactors - is a valid point you made and maybe they should get a taste of their own medicine.

They declared war against this platform, so Justin Sun TRON should war on and show them no respect at all.

You clearly know what you are going and have made the right moves. Thanks for sharing.

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dj123 (60) · 5 years ago

Ha! will never happen man. Justin isn't fast or smart enough or even cares, in my opinion He was just after making a quick buck with getting Steem on the cheap, instead of just powering it down, he gave the old guards of Steem the excuse they needed to make some $$ and take Steem's sake for their own, not to mention all the free witness votes the top20 got from all that happened.

I could be wrong, but , 0.1% chance Justin will implement anything timely to counter the moves.

Come over to Hive, it's just like old Steem, only everyone there is now richer thanks to Justin.... lol.

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digitalgoldmine (10) · 5 years ago

Maybe, maybe not? Time will tell. I will watch the power battle unfold.

The monetary gain is not really my thing, but I think Money is the main driving force for HIVE, helping to escalate the hate towards Justin or any buyer that wants in on the party.

I will be staying with Steemit and the projects still involved. Thanks for the offer and I wish you well :)

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amberyooper (69) · 5 years ago

money is the driving force for all of these blockchains. Without the money for incentive, the blockchain is pointless.

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