What do you think about changes in Steemit Engagement Challenges?

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Hello my dear Steemians,

 

First of all I wanted to draw your attention to this community that is just recently founded and in my opinion has a good start, because many posts have interesting topic and also the posts bring up a good discussion.

If you also become curious about it then please visit it and maybe you also would like to join and post here.

There are actually couple of reasons why I decided to post my post today and why here.

  • one of the reason, recently I am trying to visit other communities too and post elsewhere, because often we can find a good topics somewhere and it does not need to be the community where we feel ourselves settled

  • recently I am less active due to my work commitment, which sometimes even though may not take a lot of physical involvement but often my thoughts are still there with my work and the obligations that I have

  • the other reason and maybe the one that triggered my writing today was the post of @steemitblog about Engagement Challenges and some changes that the Steemit Team was planning to introduce, if you have not noticed it I would like to invite to read and maybe also to express your thoughts:

https://steemit.com/steemit/@steemitblog/steemit-update-august-19th-2024-steemit-engagement-challenge-applications-invited-for-season-20

 

Teaching Teams: my thoughts

 

The Season 19 of SEC introduced teaching teams, the whole idea was to make lessons on weekly basis in certain area of expertise and let the users to learn and participate. The idea is good but as I thought not many participated.

Actually I must admit recent few months I regular took part in SEC only because there were topics that everyone could express their thoughts and ideas from their daily life and life experiences.

There topics were about: cooking, travel, art, fantasy and many others. We all could associate ourselves with any of those topics.

This time I barely took part in any, among the teaching topics I was never a fan of physics and electronics but my favourite subjects are chemistry and biology.

As to gastronomy, definitely did not have time for such lessons especially with all the preparation, I like spontaneous cooking without any strict measurements and just experiment with many different stuff.

The topics of Brilliant teachers also did not fit into the field of my interest.

When I recall the time when we in WOX run challenge, we heard that people complained that do good drawing and painting one need to buy all Art stuff and therefore, people did not want to take part.

Teaching Team lessons were good for those who took time and prepared themselves for the lessons, because there were less participants and the chances to win contest is much higher.

On other hand, I am myself if then the person who took part in such contest will use the knowledge in his real life and if he will benefit from it or is it just for the sake of upvote by SCx and for winning the challenge.

 

Challengers

 

This is a new experimental step to invite people who will bring up a topic for discussion and with the hope that there will more engagement. In my opinion, that is better way and everyone can take a part in it.

At the moment I still barely can imagine if that will be like before users will do their posts but this time for the "Hot Topic" and could post from any community but with a certain tag.

Will it work? Maybe but certainly many little communities will not survive that. SEC was a chance for communities to draw attention to them and for users to learn communities and stay there.

With freestyle and less regulation what will happen?

  • well known communities, who had Booming support and whose members are the part of Steemcurators or Challengers will continue to grow

  • the established communities will remain the same

  • but I think the moderators and active users of other communities may leave such communities, because there is no benefits that they have running the community.

I am really excited to see how it will go and what happens and you?

 

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Aaaalright... Of course I welcome the move away from strict regulations and conditions. Even if it sometimes looks as if the Communities have their own straitjackets ready.

But never mind. You don't have to take part. I find the invitation to Communities and individuals exciting. We are actually doing what this platform is all about again: blogging about what we are good at or want to pass on, what we have experienced or what thoughts are on our minds. Wonderful! Could we now please leave out this term (SEC)? Then at some point everyone will really realise that a new (old?) wind is blowing...

Hi @weisser-rabe, strict regulations are never good one of the worst condition I find in many communities is when they ask for post that:

should not be less than 300 words

Or, when it is asked to share the post in social media. I have nothing against when people share their post in social media but I do not like when people create a social media account for sharing their post only because that was asked by community and otherwise it is a dead account without much activity there.

You don't have to take part.

Of course, I know about that but I enjoy to write on some topics if I find it interesting

I think for you and me it is easy to say that we can just write about our day, activities and so on, because both you and me we have our experience on Steemit and we are well known. But just think about majority of other users who also will write a post about what they did and often their posts are not seen and there are many such users. I think for such people such SEC Initiative is a place to show up themselves.

Do you seriously believe the SEC entries are read? I can assure you this is not the case. The average moderator hardly reads or leaves a comment. With over a hundred entries it is impossible because they have to check I don't know how many facts and it's as if you are a machine if you moderate for hours.

Those who comment rarely read. I see AI-generated answers but also a certain trick someone teaches certain nationalities and it's always the same: a part of the author's text is compy pasted into it. If you ask how or what, or say you don't understand what is meant by the comment there's no answer or you receive the same blah blah.
Let's not pretend that whatever the participants write is eagerly read and commented. Not even the participant takes the time to read since reading is a waste of time let alone take a break to think over what is written and what to write back.

I joined a few times because I liked the topic and you know what I did? I did post elsewhere (mainly freewriters) because most titles make no sense and I write it the way I like without taking part of Q
&A.

The only way to show yourself is by engaging! Start talking to people and if they reply answer. Most don't do so they leave an answer without an opening to know another closer. If you can't understand this platform is about promoting yourself I think there's nothing to expect. Not even fame is your share if you won a SEC contest and you are a nobody and won although you can hardly write.

When I support SEC posts I read them, even if I need to translate from Spanish or Indonesian, more difficult when it is needed to be translated from Bengali. One day it was one of weekend day I decided to comment on at least 10 posts and I did it that took me 4 hours, can you imagine? I only noticed when my hubby came to me and asked: don't you want to cook at 3PM (it was already 4pm) and I even did not notice it.

Therefore, proper commenting takes time, actually for my 10 good written comments I received relatively short and generic thank you feedback, it was not really satisfying, but that is the nature of such SEC.

From my side, I like to take in some of htem because if topic is interesting I just like writing, you probably noticed that 😜

I am now excited about new Season of SEC to see what it will be, but even ow I think it will probably will not be something that I will take part, but we will see :)

I have understood the point. Or rather: I see it the same way. But these users need incentives other than homework or unsavoury group dynamics. Give us all time, the well-known Steemians and the lesser-known ones. Time to deal with the freedom.

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I like your thoughts on the new changes with complete clarity and open words.

I would like to say that the Steemit Team considers the feedback of its users important, which is a very good thing.

As for the new announcement regarding Challengers and teaching teams, it's also an experiment. Because the more new brains are given a chance, the more new ideas will emerge. And on social media, it's all about the victory of ideas.

The main goal is to increase engagement and user satisfaction.

Hopefully, this initiative will work. But if the results don't meet expectations, then certainly something else can be thought of. The benefit of open discussion among users is that it allows for feedback.

Let's see how this experiment works.

I believe we all have our own thoughts and our opinion, understandably it could vary from opinion of others and that is good, because that makes our community of circle of friends so sparkling and often we might argue and maybe not agree with others but still such open talks better than keeping the opinion for themselves.

In general everything is changing, as well as we are changing and everything new is good to try who knows it may work and without trying we will never know that.

I believe important thing that users will feel that there are many opportunities for many of them to be active and hopefully to find their niche that will make people stay and to advertise to others.

We definitely will see how the coming month will be. Thank you for visiting my post and for your opinion :)

As you said in response to my friend @weisser-rabe's comment, that you write about the topics that you like, I also think the same way. And maybe other users do too.

But here's the thing, most users( sometimes me too 😉 ) try to write about the topics that are announced by steemitblog, because they have a higher chance of getting rewards. And right now, there are thousands of users on steemit.

Most users give importance to their own preferences and knowledge-based topics. Like artists, doctors, chefs, storywriters, photographers, etc.

So if steemitblog announces 3 topics for teaching teams and 3 topics for challengers, only those users who are skilled in those areas will be interested and participate. And other users will force themselves to write posts just for the rewards. But the problem is that they don't engage with others' posts or comment on them. That's why there are fewer relevant and valuable comments on posts.

I was planning to apply as an artist in the teaching team, but the thing is, only a few people who are passionate about art will create posts, or others will just give brief, superficial comments.

Normally, I expect a wide range of topics or a common tag announcement so that maximum users ( me too) can participate willingly.

You have the same thinking like me and I agree there are many users now the good posts often buried under others so that it is not obvious immediately.

I know about your artistic talent but at present I do not think it is something that will be popular.

As to you, I think you will be a good challenger, but to choose "Hot topics" and bring it to discussion what do you think?

Great ! Having a certain mindset is great for building connections. And thanks a ton for your thoughtful suggestions! I'm thinking if I can collect some topics that can help keep a meaningful conversation going, that'd be awesome. If not, I might just have to join new challenges as a participant instead.

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First I like to answer to something you mentioned in your post about lessons hosted in WOX: people complained they could not join the lessons because they had to buy all the stuff!

Sorry, to say this but everyone can paint or draw. We can use mud, sand, lemonade, pen, ink it doesn't matter even our blood if we want to. What is lacking here is the creativity of the teacher and the participant.
We do not need to buy expensive brushes we can paint with our fingers, sticks, a piece of cloth, dry grass, and a piece of sponge (I used that frequently).

If people will participate in challenges and if it helps depends on those who join and the will of the participant. I applied and will not do this alone and like said in the rules there's no need to post in one community only. So why should small communities not benefit from this?
I noticed that if it comes to small communities they can be divided in two:

  1. The very creative ones who do not feel home at the big communities because they are just a number, and the only engagement is the moderator's report
  2. Small communities where there's no improvement if it comes to writing/posting something good.

If it comes to the (by now former) SEC contests and more traffic to my opinion that didn't happen. Those who join are SEC-HUnters and only post in that community because of that contest.

A good example is @solperez with her excellent contest: Art & Writing. Hardly no one joins but those who do are very creative.
As this community finally was allowed to host an SEC contest they used this concept and guess what? Suddenly this contest was not "hard" to join. As soon as the SEC period was over all those who joined the SEC Art & Writing left! How come not even 10 people stayed?

I do not think you were on Steemit when WOX hosted its Visual art challenge but it was really true, that after such comment about lack of stuff for drawing, I made an example and took a simple piece of paper and a ball-pen and made my drawing with blue pen, suggesting and encouraging people just grab anything and do create.

But I was pleased to hear your feedback as completely independent person regarding:

We can use mud, sand, lemonade, pen, ink it doesn't matter even our blood if we want to

It is true, we see often street artists drawing with chalks on asphalt or people doing sandcastle on beach just for the time of low tide not because they do to get appreciation but because they love to create.

It is indeed the case that SEC brings more user traffic to communities and despite of being active 6 weeks in the communities the crowd disappears just after SEC finishes. That is really a shame but it is not possible to force people to stay anywhere, that is just life, communities will either survive of disappear we have see that already many times.

I am not sure if I was around or visited WOX at that time or perhaps I only had a quick look. WOX looks great, with a topic and has a face of it's own but to me it's overwhelming as well. Perhaps not if I still would have my photocameras and was taking photos like I used to do (in a way I still am because if I go out I stand still and click with my children make ask: Are you taking a photo again!).

We can use concrete, gips, and indeed chalk. I did it many times and with a bit wafter it looks like watercolour and it can be saved with hairspray, coal from the woodfire is an option, lipstick, tea, coffee, and so on.

Perhaps it's good to teach something like this and show how to paint with different materials?
Sand can be "glued" on paper as well to make a drawing, and dried flowers, leaves, and grass, are great for making paintings. It's what we already learn as a toddler.

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Interesante artículo.

Te cuento lo que pienso de éstos cambios.

I. Me parecen extraordinarios. Que se estén dando éstos cambios. Me motivó tomarme más enserio mi participación en la plataforma. Me gustaron todos los temas, pero por falta de recursos, sólo participé en el curso de gastronomía. Fue estupendo aprender prácticas nuevas y reconocer los nombres que llevan los cortes y formas al cocinar. En lo personal, sigo aprovechando lo aprendido. Este curso me aportó algo valioso en la vida real.

II. Disfruté mucho estás 6 semanas de instrucción. Así que cuando se planteó la posibilidad de presentarme como instructor para la temporada 20, no dudé en postularme. Se que estos conocimientos pueden ayudar en la vida real a los participantes. Así que ofrecí mis conocimientos en corte y confección. Lo preparé de forma muy condensada. Aunque, quién lo desee y quiera encontrar puede visitar la comunidad @Venezolanos para seguir la instrucción de forma completa.

III. Las comunidades han sido de gran ayuda para la prolongación en el tiempo, para permanecer en la plataforma. Pero, dice un dicho popular: "El agua estancada se pudre". Quizás, éstos cambios suponen prevenir ese estancamiento.

Esta es mi opinión.

Gracias por valorar mi comentario en el post de nuestra amiga @Patjewell

Thank you @lunasilver for your wonderful comment and for sharing your opinion, I already noticed your application and I am really wishing you all the success.

I love knitting and do knit sweaters and jumpers using Celtic aran patters, I also love crochet and last did a blanket for my friend's newborn. I find them more for me because if there is a mistake in any loop then I undo the row and start again. When I was young I wanted to learn sewing but after spoiling few meters of nice clothes I decided to stop it.

I believe the skills that you have and also the tutorials understandably very valuable, the only thing I thought that not many will be able to go and do it, because the same like I mentioned in post about Art materials when users complaint that they can not buy drawing paper and brushes or pints, it might come to the situation when users will not be able to buy clothes and all the necessary stuff for that.

Anyway, we will see, but I am wishing you success for the application!

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Great to see you hear @stef1 I see you read the rules set for this community 1 topic and the 1st picture should be one colour.
Why? Because it is about the topic that should draw the attention not the picture or other screaming text. The topics should be readable for everyone.

Next to that only those with a label Topic Poster can post here.
Why? Because it should look like a forum and not the chaos of a community.

I gave you the label of 'Topic Poster' and wish you a great chat!

Long, short it's up to you. If you think out of your topic Brainstorming subtopics are worth posting please do so to keep the topics readable.

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Yes, I just found an idea interesting, often we loose the idea behind while watching the photographs, especially in some cases engagements challenge organisers ask to have "min. 3 images" but often there are posts where you do not need images but following the rules you have to do that or will be disqualified.

Also, it is good to have a place where you know that this is for discussion and hope people will bring up interesting topics and get a lot of engagements :)

I like your suggestion about Topic poster, will think about that, thank you for warm welcome :)

Those 3 to 5 pictures I find annoying as well. To me, they are a burden and they too frequently spoil the text this is besides the fact that many just pick 3-5 pictures that do not even fit together or into the text. I wonder why this makes text any better. I would say: let go of it and try to read first before we show disturbing pictures.

Thanks for joining and bringing in great topics! I hope it will be read and considered.

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Some changes are good . And some restrictions made someone to write with force . Writing is the passion and freewriting is loved by everyone. Your thoughts and changes surely bring the positive change in this platform. You think different from others and that thinking we liked alot . We have the same changes in our mind but probably we can't say or you can say everyone has no courage to say..
Your changes are quite good and attractive. Hands up for you 👏🤗

We will see how the next 6 weeks will go and how much it will be different from the previous weeks. Thank you for your opinion :)

InshALLAH 💞

As I never was fan of the traditional social media, I'm happy with the new ideas.

Every social media is different, I believe there always will be people who like something but others do not :)

Sure! As everything about activities online.

I think I actually understand your point of view you are establishing about it and trust me the participation has really dropped massively also as I can testify to it.

But I really think one of the things the Steemit team are working on is just to try something new as it looks like the old pattern has been so much familiar and trust me sometimes it is needed that we try out something new as it helps us to be dynamic.

I believe because it is just starting at the first, at the end of the day, people will adjust and I am so sure that people will start practicing the new teaching series as I am so sure that in fact it will help to guide and help us achieve a whole lot of things actually

Whatever new thing is going to be implemented it will have strength and weaknesses. It is always good to get collective opinion of people and not just silently accept something with the hope that it will be better, that is why this post is here.

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