Truthfully, I am still very new at all of this.
As we consider building our homestead and how to do things, the possibilities are almost endless. Time and time again we encounter different ideas and there is only so much that we can do or incorporate into our design and plan. Originally, I had one specific plan that I began working towards, but, due to some recent events, I am changing it up a bit. Hopefully it'll work out better for us, and this may even give some of you some things to think about.
PAPA SHARING SOME RECENT THOUGHTS ABOUT CHANGING THE PLAN
GARDENING GOALS
If you've followed my posts for any amount of time know, you are probably well aware that we desire to grow the majority of our own food supply right here on our land. This means that at least some of our land will be permanently devoted to garden space.
Besides the "traditional" garden, we are also planning on transforming much of our property into a food forest, where the trees, shrubs, vines, bushes, and grown covers are all edible, medicinal, and useful. Over time we will phase out the existing forest and replace it with one designed to fulfill our needs. It'll require a lot of work and time, but that is our goal and the direction that we are moving forward in.
LETTING THE ANIMALS DO WHAT THEY DO TO BLESS YOU!
Part of our original goal was to "work smarter not harder." This includes using things like the natural instincts of various animals to help in the process. I first began using goats and pigs to eat the undesirable plants. Once they reach the ground level, we can encourage the pigs to uproot their root systems by sprinkling whole corn on the ground.
The original idea had been to use some temporary pens to move the pigs through our fields and covert them into bare earth and open dirt. At that point we had been covering the ground with a thick layer of mulch, sometimes after spreading seeds for plants like Daikon Radishes and Austrian Winter Peas first.
The mulch not only blocks out weed growth but also begins to break down and decompose, adding to the soil. The plants break open the tough soil beneath, and when the tops of them die, they add biomass to the soil too. So far this process has been working very well.
ENTER THE GRAZERS!
However, now I have began to reevaluate the process, because we have finally gotten around to adding some grazing animals into our homesteading mix. We do not plan on feeding these animals grain or hay all year round, so having some thick, lush pastures available will be beneficial.
This is where the change in plans comes in. I realized that the forest floor has substantially less undergrowth than the amount of plants that exist in the fields. Also, now I need some fields for pasture land. If I eliminate the fields for garden space, then I'll have to eliminate forest for pasture land. Not only will I not be able to use any of the natural grasses and plants that grow in the fields, I would have to start from basically nothing to create a pasture.
ENTER THE DOZER!
Once I saw what a big bulldozer was capable of, I soon realized I had another option. Trust me, removing trees one at a time with a chainsaw and shovel is a lot of work. If I want to start my gardens fresh from nothing, then the forest floor is a much better starting place than the fields.
The dozer can completely clear a spot for my gardens in minutes. Then I can mulch it and start fresh. In the fields, I can just work on removing the unwanted plants and adding some more desirable ones into the mix. This should allow us to move forward at a much quicker rate of speed.
Obviously we will continue to learn, apply, and evaluate, but so far we are very optimistic and we are really enjoying the process of turning this raw land into a functional homestead that will provide for our family for years to come.
Where is the proof? 😎
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Isn't no proof proof that I changed my mind?
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Lol! I literally just thought the same thing!!
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Haha!! Nice catch!!
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I really like your plans. Nowadays the self-sufficiency is really undervalued. I don't know if people are just spoiled or they don't have enough time because of long working hours to do it. So thumbs up and wish you all the best. Can't wait to see your progress.
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Well, you live in an area with fairly good soil all around and enough rain water to keep everything composting, even without man's help. So, you can probably get away with this just fine.
Here, I would have to consider the difference in soil conditions. If I chose a foresty place, I would probably need to bring in a lot more materials for composting. And a lot of shit for fertilizer.
Tree leaves are toxic to many plants. That is why things don't grow in the shade, not because of the shade. But, it looks like you got lots of leaf litter, and can properly compost it. A composite pile, allowed to get to temperature will bake off all the toxins.
You may also like to look into food forests.
(Unfortunately, this means tearing out all the trees anyway)
With a food forest, you plant a canopy crop of good nitrogen creating trees. Then you plant smaller fruiting trees. And then you plant fruiting bushes and then you plant things that grow well in the undergrowth (like strawberries).
If you set these up correctly, they are a low work form of yearly food. You plant things like asparagus or artichokes, which keep growing up year after year.
But, but, you will still want raised beds for your tomatoes and chilis. Because, we can't have you going without salsa. That would just be bad.
So, you may want to look into hugelkultur where you take tree logs and then you pile dirt and compost stuff on top. And the logs break down providing nutrients to your garden growing above.
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Hugelkultur and a Food Forest are on my to do list! I'm all about getting the biggest ROI without needed to invest more and more effort every year! Thanks!
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I just looked at hugelkulter and wow what a neat idea. Thanks for the info.
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Food forests? Letting animals do the work? Cover crops and mulch!!?
Are you a closet permaculturalist?
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@papa-pepper Yes Life is all about being able to adjust your plans. I know that you will only get better and it will be so fun to see how all of your ideas get implemented. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
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Happy Thanksgiving! Thank you @stockjockey!
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Thank you for sharing with us @papa-pepper. It is how it is. Plans change while you are in the process of building something great! You have the spirit of God in you which will lead you every day! Everything you are busy doing is so exciting!
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Thank you for all of that! Be blessed @hope777!
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Thank you!!
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We seem to re-evaluate and change plans on the homestead on a regular basis. That is how we learn and grow. As new technology becomes available we can utilize that to make new plans to make better use of what we have. You are on the right track @papa-pepper!
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WE have some land that is wooded/mix now as well and I would love to also see that become a sustainable food forest. My next project is my chickens are getting a bigger home and permanent run. A fox got some the other day so am going to try and rear a separate group of chickens for free ranging. For now I am going to put these guys in an enclosed run to keep what I have. I really want a greenhouse for next summer. My desire is a fruit house. It all looks so good, and congratulation on moving towards more self sustainability.
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I enjoyed hearing your plans and some of the planned changes. Being flexible is key to success. Having been a homesteader for 39+ years, I call plans and actions 'temporary' at best. lol
For your future pastures, I will suggest growing oats. The reasons are; oats create a large root mass and crowd out most weeds, so you're cleaning the slate before seeding pasture grasses. We usually grow the oats out until they reach the 'milky' stage (when the seeds exude a milk when you squeeze them) and the oat hay is still green. At this point turn the grazers on it or harvest (weed-eater) and dry for storage. Depending on the season plant pasture seed in the oat stubble. Oats take about 2 months and you probably can start early spring and still end early enough to have pasture established in the summer.
Our milk goats love this and it makes for some good milk too.
I hope this helps you on your homestead journey.
The best to you and your family for a HappyThanksgiving.
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Happy thanksgiving @bilbop! Thanks a lot for all of your advice! I honestly appreciate it!
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It's a process and unless we are willing to change we will not succeed. Great post thanks for the update.
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Thanks man!
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Earnestly removing the root system from from a fresh land is the most daunting task in land preparation. The bulldozer will surely give a leverage.
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Absolutely. I was thoroughly impressed with what it could do!
Thanks @kevaton!
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Brother, I really appreciate you posting your progress and your endeavors. It really does motivate. I told you before, that I was raised on a little ranch. What you are doing reminds me of my dad's original plans. What a wonderful way to live on Gods earth. Love it. Clean living. If I don't see you, have a wonderful thanksgiving pepper family!
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Thanks my friend! The encouragement means a lot to me!
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Bravo! Great photos! I love hot peppers. And animals are wonderful.
Wish you success and good mood! ))
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Thanks @singa! I wish you success and a good attitude too!
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Thank you! ))
Treat yourself ))
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How can a silver steem be won?
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There are a few ways. I'll post my next one tomorrow or Friday!
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Pig scat is also one of the best fertilizers going. Where I lived in Michigan used to be a hog farm and there were huge piles of composted manure so I worked it into my compost piles and the results were spectacular... many of my friends used to come and get it for their gardens.
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Interesting! Thanks @richq11~
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Throughout my life I've always been impatient at getting stuff done, but having an engineer as a husband who plans everything used to frustrate me till I realised that the planning often gave birth to new and better ideas. Have fun and enjoy building your homestead!
Happy Thanksgiving to all the Peppers :)
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Thanks @lizelle! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours too!
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I've done a bit of organic gardening - not much. But I've heard that trees can be good for companion planting. Some organic gardeners are planting trees alongside other crops, instead of clumping them all together in orchards.
In Victorian times, in the UK, people used to go "nutting" – ie, gathering wild nuts. You can't do that now, as there are hardly any wild nut trees left. I'm sure this is one reason for the reduction in numbers of the red squirrel here (usually blamed on the introduction of the grey squirrel, but I think the loss of their food sources is an important overlooked reason too).
I'm not sure why our nut trees have almost all disappeared. There are quite a few people here trying to bring back fruit trees. Our climate doesn't allow the varieties that you will have, but I think it's really important to get these trees planted again, for ourselves and for the wildlife that they sustain.
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I'll be using as much companion planting as I can. The more that we can design to work together based on our understanding of how things work together, the better! Thanks!
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Happy Thanksgiving Papa-Pepper!!!
No worries! Good homesteaders, like good business owners, have to be able to adjust and adapt to the environment. You have an available resource, so use it!
As you are clearing land, for pasture or to replace with fruit trees, I suggest leaving as many trees in place as possible. Spread out is fine, according to your plans. (Space for a mower or tractor or brush hog, etc).
But your livestock and ecosystem will appreciate the mix of trees!!! Animals will find shade. Birds will roost(and underneath, on way in, and away will thankfully drop fertilizer). Later, in your food forest as it matures, remove the 'previously uncut oak etc' to give the fruit trees more sun, and for a future firewood harvest.
You know, the permaculture way!! :-D
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Thanks @em3! You are always so helpful and encouraging! Be blessed and Happy Thanksgiving!
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I try to be.
Hey.... I was gonna make it a surprise...but I need to use it as an example for another STEEMBAY auction... So...
I see you hit Rep 77 and wanted to make and send you something!!! Looks like I'll be needing your addy. XD
Catch u in chat?
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Being able and willing to adapt is something I think many people get stuck on. In ways you have to remember that lemons happen to plans and to just roll with the lemonade.
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You are so correct! I love your attitutude and point of view!
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Thank You, it is because I have made a lot of lemonade ;-)
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Seems like a nice plan.... Dozer will definitely work..
Love and Respect @xabi
adios
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Happy Thanksgiving to the "Homestead" !
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your post is very interesting to follow,
@papa-pepper
poatingan you can serve as the inspiration of young soul like us.
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Thanks @irhamuddin! I appreciate that!
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Mr. Pepper-- this is a great post! Full of inspiration, useful practical knowledge and motivational for those of us living on the land. Thanks for taking the time to put it together. I'm resteeming it. Upvoted/followed. @dakini5d
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Living the dream!
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Haven't woken up yet!
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1 foot in, 1 foot out is the best place to be ;)
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The European settllers here clear felled their farms, they had to do it by hand, there were no dozers invented then. Planted grass, raised cows, sheep etc, then planted what trees they wanted.
A farm load of uprooted trees are going to rot before you can use them, dozer clear 18 months worth of wood, sow grass, plant desired trees , surrounded by that square mesh you seem to have a lot of, to keep the animals off the trees until they are established.
Next year do another section, jbefore long the whole place is producing.
Your next tool to learn will be a chainsaw, it saves the biceps.
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Very good points and advice! Thanks man!
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Being strong and blessed @papa-pepper, self-efficiency is the secret of a dignified life! Very very nice post!😊
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Thank you for that @onart! Your encouragement is great to hear!
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I've slowly come to the realization that life is all about change. Really enjoyed the article--especially getting a bit of insight into your process @papa-pepper. Thanks.
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Doing well @papa-pepper. I reckon you're already way ahead of the game. And it's good to grab opportunities as they arise and make the best use of them, especially when it is a pragmatic decision.
Yes you could continue using goats and pigs and then you'd be able to say it was all cleared organically. but that would take a lot more time and effort.
Getting the job done with a bully, since you have on available just makes good sense. You get to where you want to be quicker, and potentially expand your vision of what your homestead can provide.
I love to be doing what you are doing, but my wife is very much a city girl, so not much chance of that for me ;-)
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All I can say is, that Daikon looks like it could split logs.
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Oh yeah, they break up the rock and clay and prepare it for being used as a garden.
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That is just awesome. I love my root veggies and now even more :)
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A better plan indeed! Looking good from the road... 😀
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Thanks man. The truck is doing great too!
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Awesome! Always good to have a quality student around! 😀
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Its a great idea to create the garden by making room in the forest and leaving fields for livestock. The fields are a valuable renewable resource up and ready to go. Also important that you can reassess and change plans as you progress for the optimum benefit to you and your family. This is an important lesson for all!
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Thanks @otage... I hope you are ready for tonight.
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success is always for you friends.
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Looks like you have things under control. As far as the dozer goes, I think it will help with time management and time is expensive when your offgrid. I'll go on and follow to see how things go for you.
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i love rearing animals. yhur piglets looks kinda older than their age to me.
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Before and afters with the dozed. It can be an amazing time saver.
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I think it is great, if you have to clear, you push them over root ball and all. Not to mention...future firewood. Where I am currently cutting wood was cleared that way.
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thanks for sharing great knowledge.
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Congratulation!!! @papa-pepper this great post has been resteemed to +195 followers by @afm007
Thanks.
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nice post and pic
Dont forget to upvote follow & resteem
@nurdinnakaturi
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I enjoyed reading your post. I was wondering how the bulldozer came to be available to you? Was it a rental or a loan from another homesteader? I am looking to buy a small plot of treed land in Pennsylvania and will have to remove some of them to make a garden. I would also like to know the deforestation strategy you used to allow enough light to reach the garden spot. Thank you –Jason
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A neighbor just bought one. As for making sure the trees removed now provide enough light for a garden, that's just a matter of watching the position of the sun (south) and the slope of the land.
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Makes sense! Keep the forest you have and use the cleared land a win win :)
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That's one thing about homesteading, and life in general, the "best laid plans" need some tweaks and changes to accommodate new dreams and visions. Until you get your hands dirty and start the changes and progress, you never know what needs to be different.
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You are correct about that!
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