studies show that it's none of those things. Mass Shooters are inspired by the media. The media continually reports on and glorifies mass shooters by giving them the family desire and releasing their manifestos to the world and inspires more mass Shooters. The El Paso shooter (aside from being a left-wing Nut Job inspired by Alexandria Cortez) directly directly cited the New Zealand mosque shooter as inspiration. Well if the New Zealand Mass shooter hadn't been heavily reported on and glorified by the media with his name plastered everywhere and his Manifesto released to the public then he wouldn't have been able to inspire the El Paso shooter. Because el Paso shooter would have never heard of him.
Problem isn't guns or this or that. The problem is the media. The media directly creates Mass Shooters. And Studies have proven that.
We don't need gun control. Or FBI watch list. Although FBI watch list can be useful. We don't need red flag laws or gun examination. What we need is Common Sense Media control.
Nobody NEEDS a journalist capable of firing off 500 articles a day.
nobody NEEDS to know the names of the mass Shooters. Nobody NEEDS to see their Manifesto
aside from maybe police investigators there's nobody who actually needs to see any of those things.
We need common sense Media control. Restrictions on what the media can report. And how they can report it. I'm not saying I'm against the Free Press but we obviously need some kind of Common Sense laws.
Not to mention the Free Press was created and codified at a time when the largest media Outlets were local newspapers only able to report and create a few dozen newspapers a day. They could only be distributed fairly locally. There was no such thing as national
It was intended for local newspapers and small print journalism. Not big 24/7 national television networks were completely motivated by profit
the founding fathers never would have supported that. They could have never even imagined it. If you had told them that they would be a box with moving pictures in it and sound they would have called it impossivke.
not to mention telling them that they would be some kind of World Wide Web with major news sites capable of serving 149 million people per month
Reality is that when the Free Press was written it wasn't written for those things. And I'm not against the Free Press but we obviously need some common sense journalism control. People get hurt from from unrestricted journalism. Unrestricted media causes mass shootings. And what we need is common sense laws to prevent that. People against things like that are generally paid off by Comcast and other special interest groups. They don't care about people. They don't care about safety.
We need to fight back against big media. We need Common Sense laws
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While I absolutely agree that the media is partially responsible for inspiring these shooters with their salacious coverage, I shudder at the suggestion that journalists be told what they can report on and how they can report it. That sounds a little too "behind the iron curtain" for my taste. It's a long shot, and I know it, but what's really lacking is any sense of decency by the public. The media wouldn't air the gory details on a loop if the public didn't sit transfixed to their screens, lapping up every lurid minute of it. And there's no way to legislate decency. It has been tried. The media can only report on information they have available to them, so if the police refuse to release the manifestos, they would stay in an evidence box where they belong. I realize that sometimes they get released directly to a news outlet, but in the cases where they're not...
In any case, I don't think this issue can be pinned on one cause, as much as people (including media outlets) are fond of doing. It's not ONLY a gun control issue, or a mental health issue, or a media issue. They are all contributing factors, but as @carolkean pointed out, people break laws! No matter what laws get passed to try to rein in the bloodbath, someone will go out and do it anyway. What's broken is the society that keeps producing people whose hatred or illness or whatever delusions they live with tell them that this is the only way to be heard.
I do fervently wish that we could go back to the days when journalistic integrity was the norm, and not the exception. Give us the news without any spin. Sadly, I think those days are long gone and no elected nut-ball can legislate them back.
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Maybe maybe not. The reality is that there needs to be some kind of Common Sense laws on Amelia. And plenty of other countries have that and there's no issues. In Europe the media isn't allowed to lie. There are laws on the books to keep them injective. I don't know about you but I don't really give a shit about the Free Press in terms of letting the media say whatever they want just because you feel bad for them. Free Press wasn't created because the founding fathers felt sympathetic to multi-billionaire is being able to lie. It was created to keep the people informed. If it's not doing that job than it needs to be changed
I could say the same thing
While I absolutely agree that guns is partially responsible for these shooters I shudder at the suggestion that guns be taken out of the hands of innocent people
That sounds a little too "behind the iron curtain" for my taste. It's a long sho
what's really lacking is any sense of decency by the public. Mass shooters wouldnt shoot ppl if the public didn't glorify it
lapping up every lurid minute of it. And there's no way to legislate decency. It has been tried.
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Who determines in Europe what is a lie and what is the truth. It is only the people that hold the power.
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Express determine it. It's not that hard. Left Linder than right wing as a like that support corruption like to up the skate things and make it seem harder than it is. But it's really not.
Reality is fairly easy to see when there is bias. And when a network intentionally misleads people. As CNN admitted to doing. For example. See you in admitting to Millis leading people would be an example of the time that it could be enforced
but it's really not that difficult. Experts are fairly good at it. And they do it all the time for other Industries. For example there are laws against false advertising. Well who determines if an advertisement is false? The experts do. And they do a fuck good job of it
a certain building codes and buildings have to adhere to a certain safety standard. Well who determines if the building is safe? The experts. And there's never been an example of those experts getting it wrong.
Fire safety. The experts determine it again.
restaurants are required to go through food safety inspections and make sure that they're clean. Who determines if they're cleaned? The experts it investigate.
the reality is that there's never really been a good example of when these things are bad. And even if they don't do the perfect job they're still far better than if they hadn't done
the rhetoric and talking points against these kinds of sayings is not motivated by any kind of factual basis. It's motivated by talking points created by people who do not want to be regulated. Usually billionaires that don't want regulations and so they create talking points to scare Ordinary People.
But the reality is it perfectly works fine. The experts in the agency is assigned to it do a good job of determining those
Anti-regulation talking points are typically misleading at best and outright false at worst. And they're never found coming from any other source than billionaires. Whether it's billionaires themselves or super Pacs funded by billionaires that's where all of the anti-regulation talking points originate
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Ever hear of pay offs.. It's a corrupt world out there.
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You are very right .. The media is the most to blame in encouraging these nut jobs. The media is more in the business in attracting viewers then reporting the facts...I saw the major cable networks stayed on the El Paso shooting into the night .. preempting regular shows even though they had nothing new to report. Couldn't they have just broke in to the regular shows with a report if something new came up.. Instead they show looped footage of the same scenes with talking heads giving their speculated opinions.
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as far as I'm concerned the founding fathers didn't create laws about the Free Press because they felt sympathetic to large multibillion-dollar corporations being able to lie. They created because they wanted the people to be informed. If the Free Press isn't doing that job than the Free Press isn't doing what it was created for and it needs to be changed.
I'm not totally against the idea of a free press. Not against the Free Press. But the reality is there are some things that they do they're just outright bad for the country.
we need common-sense laws. Nobody's talking about stopping the Free Press. We're just talking about some basic Common Sense laws on
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