Thoughts, Words and Photos (Forty Four)

in photography •  7 years ago 

Do you think people can change, do you think dishonest people can become honest in the future? It is something I have been thinking about in the last few days after watching certain people interact with each other and the larger general group.

Imagine you and some of your associates know a secret about someone, something that isn't general knowledge although not very hard to observe if people bothered to put two and two together. Regardless, there is an unspoken rule that the secret must be respected however, that person then uses the same secret as a minimization mechanism after being publicly called out for behaving in a way that the group who protects them would consider poor behaviour. It is an ethical dilemma of sorts. Protect the secret is to condone the poor behaviour, to expose the lie is to break trust.

People put others in these kinds of situations often under the expectation that the social taboo of breaking trust protects them from discovery. It is type of social censorship law that restricts people's behaviour by threatening social ramifications if the law is broken. Say for example if I was in the scenario above as one of the protectors and I broke silence, the rest of the group (even if relieved) will be forced to punish me, probably through ostracization from the group.

It is interesting because those people who would do the punishing would actually be thankful that they no longer have to carry the internal conflict of the lie yet, will still enact the punishment. It is a common treatment that is often applied to whistleblowers and rats. Snitches get stitches, right? It is an interesting dilemma to think about as the further in time the lies travel, the more social responsibility the protectors have to keep their mouths shut as they become complicit, they are accomplices and now protect a socially constructed conspiracy.

The next interesting part is when the person being protected is someone of influence, power or holds higher status for some reason or another. A public figure perhaps. The tendency to protect their reputation and name from harm seems to be much stronger and the secret holders will even rush to their defence even though they know that they are defending a lie or a warped version of the truth. When the person has status (especially when the status is above their own) they are very unwilling to throw their "friend" under the bus. I put the word friend in quotations as what kind of friend would knowingly socially coerce their friends into protecting their own bad behaviour?

Everyone wants to know the truth, everyone wants people to tell the truth. Unless, the truth they must tell is their own or that of someone who they feel obliged to protect. When there is a social cost to telling the truth, people generally choose concealment.

Taraz
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Reading your article made me feel very uncomfortable @tarazkp as you hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned.

When there is a social cost to telling the truth, people generally choose concealment.

Sadly, I think that might well be true of me but it's difficult to tell until one is actually in that situation.

The way I might handle it is to try and find others who felt my discomfort so we could perhaps have a united private word with the perpetrator of the lie and give forewarning that we were going to "out" them.

In answer to your questions I do think people can change, and that dishonest people can become honest in the future. However, they have to see something differently in order for that to happen.

For example, if the issue is about money they might change their behaviour if they were able to see that their security doesn't come from money.

Or, if they lied about their status because they thought that would get them more friends they might change when they realised that true friendships are built on something else.

In order to change we have to see things in a new way and that is always a possibility for everybody.

Have a fun weekend! 😊

I think that it is true of just about everyone when it comes down to it as it will depend on the need for social interaction and we are social animals. There will always be circumstances of compromise perhaps. I think that outing them creates a victim of them and they may even start to see themselves as martyrs for some noble cause. It is quite nonsensical. It has happened here many times that bad behaviour has been flagged and it has driven others to support the bad behaviour even more heavily. We live in strange circumstances.

Have a good weekend also :)

Some very good points here. The people that protect the corrupt ones are just as bad as if they have committed the crime or deception, because now they are condoning it by not speaking out against it. WE must align with others that understand that Truth & integrity are the only way moving forward. There is more dirt and corruption being exposed now than at any other time in history thanks to the internet and the ability to counter the completely corrupt "mainstream" media and newspapers. It's amazing that no matter where I travel, so many are glued to their
"tel LIE visions" at night and go out to get a newspaper filled with the same lies and propaganda in the morning to start their day off. Pretty insane. AWARENESS is the only game in town people. Question EVERYTHING and align with those that stand for Truth & Unity. 🙏

It is amazing how so many people seem to think they are getting their information from multiple sources when all sources have the same distribution syndicate. They believe they are well rounded when in actual they are eating the same food over and over in different forms.

The next interesting part is when the person being protected is someone of influence, power or holds higher status for some reason or another.

Step into my office....

I have had this conundrum in my head for many years as this is a real thing for me...

I see (daily if I wish to look) the public persona - and at the same time know the private faces..Very, very private faces.

I decided to stay silent.
Not for any social pressure's or other's moral judgment - I truly don't care of other's personal attacks on me.(of which there would be many)

I don't say anything for my own peace.

My own integrity.

A contract of confidentiality was/is part of the contract in the situation where the private face was exposed...

I wouldn't respect myself for making it public.

There would be circumstances where I would speak up...
Circumstances where my integrity would still be tact as , on balance.
An act of an higher action (to me personally), than staying quiet.

(...although I would be a lot wealthier speaking up than staying quiet. lol. oh hum.)

it is interesting how much affect it can have in the world I think. I wonder if there really was radical honesty whether it would be better or worse. It might stop a lot of the lies but, what social affect would it have in the long run when human nature still wants to behave poorly, still wants to conceal? Does it just drive the behaviour into the unconnected darkness?

A world where no one lies would mean a radical change in human maturity.

It is an ideal that 99% of people could not cope with. (and hence why the other 1% have a hard time i.e. me)

My job was in the sex industry - escorting with my girlfriend as a couple - to the wealthy types in London...

...see?- I have no worries about being honest. lol. Which is nice for me.

On small scale, just as an example...
.... how many men would tell their spouse /partner what they were really thinking about when the mega sexy pair of legs in a short skirt walked past while at a restaurant...?

And that's just a small lie - to preserve bringing up an insecurity in the other person that you care about.
Lies are essential for most human beings sanity.

While lies can drive other human beings to insanity.

Indeed, there are so many social interactions that are made comfortable through a little lie but the risk is that the slope is gradual but very slippery.

I don't bother with the lying part.

I don't have many friends, either . lol.

I can actually relate with this, though in a different way, I was in a group where the group 'supposed' leaders were to teach us certain skills and steps to attaining our set goal at that time. But instead of teaching, they would hide the real facts and bombard us with their supposed success, they sent pics of every of the flamboyant activities, like taking a flight, lodging in expensive hotels, buying expensive gadgets, we got fed up of it but no one would speak up, they would rather applaud them in the open and complain privately. Well I spoke up and you can guess the end, I got kicked out.

That is what happens as people want the chance at the illusion too.

Sometimes it is just better to let things be, as truth has a way to come out on its own.

At times perhaps but at other times there is an ethical obligation to the self.

You are quite correct. Human behavior is very predictable. Once a thief always a thief in my books. if you are weak and tempted that isn't going to change.
Protecting someone higher than you maybe a head of state. Jacob Zuma is a prime example. Why didn't parliament kick him out? they knew if they kept him and backed him they may benefit financially somewhere along the line. While he was still there he was protecting all their lies. Strange and warped world we live in. Must read this book called "The Presidents Keepers"

People can change and do sometimes for the worse sometimes for the better .
*** INTEGRITY****
this is what its all about . Ones Integrity . To stand up for what is right . the right thing to do . We all get caught up in it one way or another . If you challenge my integrity how in the world can you call yourself my friend .
people do become complacent and give away their integrity , it's the only way to lose it , for many reasons mostly greed or to be part of the pack . And a few out of fear

(I know my opinion is right cause I got it from MSNBC , CNN ohhh who cares which one , its all from the same source so it has to be right)

After read this article I really want to learn more about the truth. Thx @tarazkp

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