@wa2qr I am just saying that in science, any time a scientist claims to have discovered or made or did something new, a scientific breakthrough, then other scientist usually verify such accomplishment by duplicating the same experiment.
Considering that space travel and exploration is a science, it is odd that no one, not even the NASA itself has been able or willing to duplicate this experiment.
With over 40 years of technological advancement and still no attempt at the moon? hmmm.
RE: Question of the Day - Did NASA Really Land on the Moon or Not? [qod][conspiracytheory]
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Question of the Day - Did NASA Really Land on the Moon or Not? [qod][conspiracytheory]
I agree there might be a chance but we are made to believe what little knowledge they provide us.
But no that you have chased this topic, my interest in this has doubled.
I'm going to look for some answers and get back to you.
What if it was difficult to get to the moon and they could not duplicate it.
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We went to the moon several times 12 Americans walked on its surface. We drove cars there, we played golf there, we collected rocks, there really is not much else to do there
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You make it sound like a typical rich American's Sunday funday... and may I say exclusive too.
And far as nothing to do, then why even think about Mars when we can't even put a tent up on the moon?
Oh that's right, the USA says it already did that.... oddly humans have climbed to the peak of Mt. Everest before and yet many still do it and some more than once just to make a point.
And if mankind is to ever begin true space exploration, what better place to practice than in your own back yard, or does traveling to Mars which takes years to get to seem more logical?
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We have sent all a number of crazy robots to Mars, unless those are all fake too. Right now NASA's long term plans involve building robots that can dig the surface of mars and/or the moon for subsurface ice crystals to be used for rocket fuel and air and such to make human habitation possible. Frankly I think robots are a much better value. But if you want to go to Mars sounds like Trump's plan to retake the moon is overdue. It's hard to fathom the scope of their efforts back in the day. Have you been to Cape Canaveral? I saw an Atlas 5 launch last year from just offshore, it's fucking mind boggling.
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Those were all one way tickets to Mars with some failures I believe, which is great, but still doesn't prove that NASA actually sent humans to and fro if you consider that time period one giant experiment.
And yes science tries to answer the maybes and doubts, but if I claim to have discovered how to "turn lead into gold" and do it 5 times in my lab using all my tools and measuring instruments, lose certain recordings of said experiments and never replicate these same experiments nor does any one else then it becomes doubtful that those experiments ever happened or succeeded. It doesn't mean I didn't turn lead in to gold, it just means you're going to have to believe I did it.
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The point of the going to the moon and the space program was to beat the Soviets, we defeated them. What's the point now?
BTW It's easier to turn bismuth into gold, some guy says he did it, he says he could do lead too.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-lead-can-be-turned-into-gold/
do you believe he did it?
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The propaganda sounding saying that "we defeated them" is another reason why I wonder if NASA really did land on the Moon. It was more of an us against them race than a race for the advancement of science and mankind which leads us back to the ideals and motives of such actions.
And yes, I have read where a professor at UCI is turning lead into gold, as other scientist have also done in other labs and experiments. The problem here is that it cost millions for a highly radioactive ounce of gold. Does it mean no one should ever again attempt to turn lead or any other element into gold? Of course it doesn't, it means that many more experiments must be done, especially to prove the validity of such results. Hence, NASA has only gone once to the moon, never again and no one else has either puts into question whether they ever did at all.
Another aspect to think about while on this theme is that the smartphone in your pocket probably has much more computing power than all of NASA's computers combined during those lunar missions and yet with all these technological advancemenst, no one has sent a robot to the Moon and back yet? This should be a piece of cake but yet hasn't been done, well at least not in the past 3 decades if ever.
So I know that NASA and other space agencies can get them there (the Moon and Mars), just not sure if they can get them back.
Again, I am not saying they did or didn't. Bottom line, I am saying to NASA 'Prove it!'
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How does one win a cold war?
By bankrupting one's enemy. It's not propaganda, the Soviet Union no longer exists. They couldn't keep up with us.
The real scientific advancement of the space program was to create better intercontinental ballistic missiles. We did that too. Mission accomplished. If you have any doubts about whether the space program was real or possible I suggest reading the Wikipedia or any biography of Robert Goddard. When you are done you will wonder why it took so long to get to the moon. Mostly it seems like it was because of fake news at the time, like the NYT, targeting Goddard.
Basically Goddard invented everything needed. Liquid fuel rockets, multi stage rockets, the concept of gyroscopic control of rockets (at a time when practical gyroscopes were just first being invented), solar power units, ion thrusters, advanced vacuum tubes, he also worked out all the math for determining the how high rockets would go given the fuel and weight and such. In his spare time he invented the Bazooka. He proved that rockets would work in the vacuum of space, but the fake news NYT claimed he was wrong.
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