RE: Jesus Christ Never Claimed That He Is God, Instead It Is Mentioned In Several Places Of Bible To Worship Only ONE God! And Why Muslims Are TRUE CHRISTIANS?

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Jesus Christ Never Claimed That He Is God, Instead It Is Mentioned In Several Places Of Bible To Worship Only ONE God! And Why Muslims Are TRUE CHRISTIANS?

in religion •  8 years ago 

If I may reply to your first 5 points.

  1. men were called gods in the bible so Jesus being called a god isn't unusual. John 10:34,35 he called the representives of God, gods quoting Psalms 82:1.
  2. we can see the father because again Jesus was a representative of God and he did it perfectly. It's like a son who acts exactly like his father, I've actually heard people say if you've seen his son you seen him.
  3. to do obeisance (as your translation says worship Greek: Pro•sky•ne'o) wasn't actual worship. There are accounts in the bible where this was done to men. This was simply kneeling before someone for respect. (Matthew 18:26; ) Matthew 2:11 the astrologers did obeisance to Jesus though not viewing him any more than just a king Matthew 2:2.
    In Hebrew Hish•ya•chawah' links closely with the Greek word used above. Here are Hebrew Scriptures of imperfect men bowing down to men or angels obviously not God. (Genesis 18:2 ; 1 Samuel 24:8 ; 2 Samuel 24:20 ; Psalms 45:11) and there are more if you like.
    Just after that in Vs 18 he says authority was "given" to him. So he didn't have it to start with. How can God not have authority? Obviously not God.
  4. notice the words "by" and "through" this shows Jesus was a proxie not God himself
  5. this is a translation error. Should be word was "a god" the Greek word for God is Theon but notice the Greek here is "theos en o logos" so it's theos not Theon word was a god. The Greek word o is an article in Greek that can be definitive or not so noticing the writers change in word from God (Theon) to theos (Devine) he must be using the a instead of the.
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No, its not a translation error.

Jesus is a different Person than the Father. They can relate. But they are both One God (with the Holy Spirit) with one Name in which we are commanded to be baptised.

Jesus also said, "Before Abraham was, I AM" using the same language that He used in the burning bush with Moses. When he said that, the Jewish leaders picked up stones to throw at Him indicating that they knew very well that he was claiming to be God:

Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

Look up the creed of Nicaea. Here is the thing Stan. The origins of the trinity go all the way back to Babylon. They had many trinities. The Israelites on the other hand said at Deuteronomy 6:4 "Listen, Israel: our God is Jehovah; Jehovah is one;" (Byington) this is the bible's teaching. Following the origins of the trinity it went to medo-Persia to Egypt to Greece the to Rome.
Finally Roman Emporor Constantine gathered in 325 A.D. With

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

What Constantine gathered to publish in the first 50 "official" volumes were merely what the several hundred Christian "bishops" had been using for over 200 years. He got them together and they agreed on which books could be traced back to the original people who knew Jesus.
Christians do not deny Deuteronomy 6:4. They understand that one God interacts in three persons.

Jesus final words were,

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

I see you use a lot of scripture quotes from the source known as the Bible, do you have faith that the Bible is correct? What do you think of Matthew 28:19; how about Luke 24:47(should we forgive people for acting homosexual?); Acts 1:8(The book of Acts in general would be unacceptable to any follower of Muhammad... would it not?); Acts 2:38; Hebrews 9:8; 1st Corinthians 6:19; 2nd Corinthians 6:6 ?

Absolutely. If the Bible is not correct, I know nothing. Even if there were errors I could not spot them. There is no other source with better credentials able to correct one jot or tittle. So I go with the best I've got. And since that's all anyone can do, I presume that God has made sure that it was preserved for my use. Else, how could He hold me accountable for anything?

The Bible itself as found in the Dead Sea Scrolls written 900 years before Muhammad contradicts what Muhammad taught like a mirror image. So, no I would not expect the content of the Dead Sea Scrolls to be acceptable to anyone who has been taught Muhammad's inverted version (where he substituted descendants of Ishmael and Esau for descendants of Isaac and Jacob everywhere and were he lowered the Lord Jesus Christ to be a mere second place prophet after himself)

Matthew 28:19 " Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," Yep - Here we find the three persons of the Trinity mentioned together just like they were when Jesus was baptized Himself.

Luke 24:47 "and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." Yes we should forgive homosexual acts just like heterosexual fornication. But they are both still acts that require forgiveness.

Acts 1:8 "Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?" Yes, this ability to understand each other was a gift of the Holy Spirit and a sign to those present.

Acts 2:38 :"Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

Hebrews 9:8 "The Holy Spirit was showing by this that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still functioning.:

1 Cor 6:19 "Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;"

2 Cor 6:6 "in purity, understanding, patience and kindness; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love"

Ok, so the rest of your references are to passages about the Holy Spirit. I don't know where you are going with this. There are many passages where the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit appear individually and in various combinations. They are three persons. They are one God.

Just about homosexuals 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 says they will not inherit the kingdom, yet he says "this is what some of you WERE" so the point is forgiveness comes after change. Anyone can be forgiven even a homosexual as long as they change.

That's a lie he did not tell his disciples to go to all nation and preach the bible, unless ur this proofs, the lies made against him and this is why the bible is contaminated, did jeusu say from his own mouth, I was only send to my people the children of Isreal? Who were the children of Isreal is the hole nation the children of Isreal?
And this proofs he is not God, e.g I was send only to my people, children of Isreal, who were waiting for a prophet, when he came they denied him has always, the point is he was not crucified to save the holy mankind with his blood, because he was not sent to be the savior of the holmankind. He was only send to the children of Isreal. So do ur self a favor and stop contradicting ur selif and misleading others the hole bible contradicts it's self.

Read Jesus last words "The Great Commission" in Matthew - he said go make disciples of all nations.
Long before he died, he was saying "God so loved the world that he gave His Son.
This was always God's plan, but he had to give the Jews their promised chance. Most of them blew it. Then Jesus continued with his plan to send his disciples to the rest of the world.