RE: Relax ~ Nothing is under control

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Relax ~ Nothing is under control

in steem •  5 years ago 

It just doesn't make sense to fork a chain and include the hostile takeover elements from the previous chain

But if we use that argument does it not also justify this recent fork and fucking with people accounts?
There has been a great outpouring of hostility on the steem blockchain by the initiators of Hive.

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no not really because the accounts frozen had already (for weeks) disabled their witnesses. There was no threat to Steem here, this softfork is clearly just petty retribution by idiots who cannot see the consequences that will come for their actions.

Are they not allowed to use Bitcoin because they have accounts on Hive?

The point you were making was justifying forking out hostile accounts and depriving them of funds.
I dont think that can be justified ether here or anywhere. My point was that if you justify it in one place for whatever reason you justify it everywhere, even here and I dont want that to be justifiable.
And I am sure you dont want that ether

Those accounts were not forked out. Stick to the facts please and apply logic. Anyone who did not receive the airdrop still has full control of their account on Hive and they're free to use it as they see fit. If they were excluded from the airdrop, they can appeal. Only the accounts actively participating in strengthening a Sybil attack on Steem were excluded. You cannot include that attack on a new chain if your intent is to create a new chain to get away from said Sybil attack. Pretty basic common sense here and with the appeal process, it was handled professionally. It wasn't just a handful of accounts selected out of spite.

Stop making so much sense.

Okay so there's an elephant smoking a cigarette and I feel like dancing.

INR lol
He's making total sense.... Almost a scary amount of sense =)

Thanks for the reply, it is greatly appreciated.
You said that really well btw

Good points!

But if we use that argument does it not also justify this recent fork and fucking with people accounts?

No. The difference is that the people now milking Steem do not threaten the security of the chain. Those people that voted for Sun actively supported centralization and non-functionality of the chain and the other things that Sun promised, like moving Steem dApps to Tron or moving the coin itself to Tron.

the people now milking Steem do not threaten the security of the chain.

If that is all they were doing nobody would care.
I have spent a lot of time looking at the actions of the accounts concerned and others not mentioned.
I would guess the main objection would be the voting of witnesses then removing the votes a few days later, taking people in and out of the top twenty at will. It is amusing but it also creates instability. I am not sure if their efforts were coordinated but it is possible I guess.
I notice that not all accounts behaving in that manner were targeted. Lucky them.
And I think some who were NOT doing that were targeted. Not good

I'm not sure if we are talking about the same people. With the people milking Steem I mean people who just post to earn as many rewards as possible and then sell them. I am myself doing this in the MILK communtiy.

I would guess the main objection would be the voting of witnesses then removing the votes a few days later

This is what Sun is doing. Only he has the power to remove or add top witnesses at will.