As Steem grows, so does the presence of the trolls

in steem •  8 years ago 

This is what I've been noticing lately. This happened to me yesterday. I had 5 different people respond to me on one thread or another that this had, or was happening to them. This is what's going to end up ruining Steem for a lot of people, if no solution is found.

Yesterday morning, I made a simple post about my bitconnect experience, just as @craig-grant has done, just as @trevonjb has done, and many others. I wasn't expecting a ton of upvotes or comments...just from those who were or are thinking of investing in bitconnect who I had told that I'd keep them informed.

By about 5 o clock yesterday, I had something like 12 upvotes and a bunch of comments. By 530, I had an additional 5 downvotes which caused me to lose all rewards for that post...oh and I received such a nice comment from @steemcleaners informing me that just because I didn't view my post as a scam or spam...others might. Oh really Steemcleaners, a.k.a Mom?! I've heard from others as well about having issues with Steemcleaners being on a power trip lately. Just because someone reports someone @steemcleaners, maybe you should actually read the post before deciding if you think it's spam or not...you know, since your opinion seems to matter so much, which you obviously get off on. Seems a bit ironic that I went all day without getting flagged, then all of a sudden within n half hour (I actually just counted) I received 8 downvotes?! Really?! How interesting. Seems like there's people on Steem that take advantage of it, and if they're powerful enough in Steempower, they can basically control you....that pretty much will ruin steem for me and a lot of other people. I looked into these people who downvoted me...some of them literally have pages that Steem says are unknown. Some haven't posted on Steem ever. None of them are really active, so how does this happen that all of them at once have the ability. I was reading an article done last year by long time user @stellabelle, who was having this same issue. She discussed how muting doesn't really fight this problem, and others confirmed there's just nothing you can do since it's on the blockchain.

How is there not some type of balance of powers? How is it that my article on bitconnect was flagged multiple times, yet porn is allowed on here? Seems like @steemcleaners is on a bit of a power trip. Why does no one monitor this guy? I read articles from at least 10 others who recently quit Steemit because of crap like this, and if this continues, it ruins Steemit for me, and I'll be pulling my 3200 steempower out, and there will be many more behind me.

Apologies for any spelling errors but I'm writing this quick on my phone. Here's a list of all the people who flagged or downvoted my post within a half hour of each other. Check them out for yourselves, and read my previous post. There's nothing wrong with it! It's just information!

@adm
@steemcleaners
@fubar-bdhr
@zathras
@zathras (zathras and zathras, really?! Idiots)
@fubar165
@kutmargo
@blacklist-a (oooooo sounds so scary tough guy)

@kevingwong @papa-pepper @jerrybanfield @dan @ned @sweetsssj am I missing something something? Is there really nothing that can be done about this problem? It's only going to worse and more prevalent as Steemit grows, and I'm pretty sure this is going to drive away many users. I for one would rather have my money in a coin whee this BS doesn't happen, where I can post information about my experience with any altcoin and anything I want...but if it's just part if Steemit, then I want no part if it.

Oh look, I found a picture of Steemcleaners and his army of trolls...

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Eat shit, your'e an idiot

You forgot to call him faggot, fgt.

@adm...I'm going to see you real soon..looking forward to meeting you face to face. Don't think your $700,000 will be much help. Faggot

Petty threats, lololol, I foresee a rage rampage over here, this person is seriously getting butthurt over how his content is curated on the internet, so much so he is willing to make threats about "I'm going to see you real soon..." "looking forward to meeting you face to face" and the other veiled threat of "we'll have a nice chat soon". Hey qe, you forgot to tell him to eat shit and that nobody cares about him. Or that's reserved just for people that congratulate you on your flags and ask if you will let those opinions affect your life, which was a rhetorical of course.

Lmfao. It's funny how highly you think of yourself. I've looked at enough of your posts now to just feel bad for you. You have an over inflated ego, which I'm not sure why. You're not very smart, and pretty much all you do is throw big words around and try to create sentences that make you sound smart. How many people have you called trolls now on Steem? Like 100?! Lolololololol. @baah, the protector of the curation and the leader of all the trolls. You're such a tough guy! You look like a scrawny fuck, sonit must be nice continuing to talk shit hiding behind your keyboard. I wonder if you'd be just as tough in a face to face confrontation? I think not.

Please don't be mean to my little baah baah black sheep :(

You don't defend me, I don't know you, you don't know me even if you think you do. Some would say mind your own, but it's obvious you made it your business to mind me, so I will take you around and show you sights and scenes, I hope you're ready for this adventure and do tag along like your name implies.

Because, after all, yeah the internet is real you know, I have real life feelings about what strangers "feels" or finds funny about me, especially when the stranger is a hypocritical individual that gets angry that people use big words on the internet, the same strangers that claim that they would treat a young kid the same way he'd treat me, what those strangers "feel" about me really matters.

Baah of course you know me, Urma and I have been friends with your mother for decades.

My little Baah Baah Baah Baah Baahrbara Ann do you need a hug?

No thank you, I already have a hug, but you can beg for hugs even so.

Voturbating while being angry at the internet because people can use big words and make sentences that make them sound smart, and because others point out that you are affected by what the internet curates your content as, so much so that you're willing to throw numerous veiled threats around, talking shit and hurling insults while rage flagging and positing "you're not such a tough guy in real life" argumentative drivel.

You just replied 3 separate times and used tour new favorite word vortubatung in every single one. You must be super proud of your big boy word. Congrats on that sweetie pie!

Keeping track of how many times I called you out for votrubating, otherwise known as curating yourself with a self vote?? It must be a fun night wherever you are, if you're so interested in how many times I said a word, hey guess what, maybe next you can crucify me for speaking my mind on the internet, because it hurts your feels and are so angry you resort to threatening people for speaking their mind. Stop hurting me internet, with your big words and sentences that make you sound smart, stop it or I'll beat you up if we ever meat because you deserve it, because someone should punk you out.

Are you 10 years old? Jesus your spelling is terrible. It's meet, not meat. Also, is it possible that I just like to fuck with people? Just because you get a feeling that you know the person by what he writes on the internet and you know if he's angry or happy or whatever, kinda makes you fucking retard. You don't know shit. You just talk and talk and talk.

You sure have a lot of free time on your hands. Must be out of a job? That sucks...I'm guessing that's why your wife is fucking someone else, or maybe cause she doesn't like fucking a little ugly ass troll such as yourself. Im sure you have plans for Friday night, so help yourself in continuing to troll my posts. You put so much effort into it, that if you put the same amount of effort into finding a girl, maybe the next one A. Won't be as ugly as the current one, and/or B. Not cheat on you every chance he/she gets

Throwing insults over the internet and voturbating. You sure think highly of the content you write, curate much?

Lmfao. You think you're real clever with your big boy word you came up with. "Voturbating"? Uhhh yeah that's real clever. You should keep using it, it really helps mask the fact what a fuck tard you are. I'm not sure why you keep thinking I'm threatening you. It's pretty pointless to threaten someone on Steemit considering there's no chance I'd ever meet you. Now...if you actually did want to meet, I definitely would. Might take a while to make it happen depending where you are, but if you're down I'm down. Let me know. Even if you did want to meet, I still wouldn't threaten you would I beat the shit out of you? If I'm being honest, yes...yes I would. I'd try not to, but someone needs to shut you up and I think a good ass whooping would really help.

You're still telling me how you'd try to shut me up and how you're not threatening me, (facepalm*. Is it fun living under the fear that the internet will think poorly of you, I see you stopped voturbating though, does that mean your angry at the internet I will hurt you in real life comment doesn't deserve your voturbation?

I really hate flagger abuse. Flags should not even affect reward IMO. I spam the blockchain everyday with my bot. I run the bot under a different username. My bot's posts have never been flagged. The spam is about a service that uses Steem dollars.

To eliminate spam equally means to make the "steemit" tag empty and the "steem" one only about the blockchain steem. Aren't all of these super popular posts about steem related products also "spam"? Things would be a lot more quiet aroind here indeed without these posts.

I can't agree more about there being spam everywhere on steemit. I see people plug Genesis mining, ICO's and other crypto's all over the place. But certain posts are just downvoted/flagged

If it's spam you should do something about it don't you think? At least leave a comment saying "hey this is spam because it's been posted again by you or someone else here, or this is tag spam because this has nothing to do with these tags, if you continue I will curate it as spam which means your content is getting flagged, in turn curating your account ever so little".

@dan can plug a completely different platform (EOS) and I don't see @steemcleaners flagging him or @craig-grant or @trevonjb or the other dolphins and whales . It looks more like economic discrimination to me. Flag the poor because we are poor and can't fight back. Funny thing is, I used @craig-grant's code to sign up for bitconnect.

I completely agree.... there is something going on with the algorithms that just doesn't "smell right"....
And it seems, by the logic of 'he whom will argue about anything', we little fish are now expected to not only put our necks on the chopping block (commenting views and opinions on posts of users who can easily just "smash" our Reputation and "not censor" our content with just a few of their powerful flags) yet also burn up what precious little voting power we have flagging their spam content. Sure, that seems real fair and legit.
smh
Is this exactly what the creators intended, to have the weak eventually volunteer to give up any value or power they may have accrued battling for fairness and equality in a war with the Whales that they just can't win? To use their "influence" to flag abusers rather than to promote others? Sure seems like it to me.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

You need to watch the video that I just posted here. It is pretty clear that Craig Grant & TrevonJB, as well as their BitConnect website are now being exposed as a complete ponzi scheme and they are frauds.

https://steemit.com/steemcleaners/@bi5h0p/craig-grant-and-trevonjb-exposed-for-scamming

Furthermore, stop using the "introduceyourself" tag with your posts. I ran into the same kind of resistance myself a couple of weeks ago. That tag is protected and enforced by people on steem who have much more Steem Power than either of us have - so they make the "rules." I suggest you either follow their rules or invest about $50 K into buying more Steem Power so that you can downvote their posts and tell them what you want them to stop doing to you.

Otherwise, just stop using the tag. That's the generally accepted "rule" by the majority of Steemians and you will be fighting a losing battle.

So I read your post, and thought to myself, that's quiet an abuse seeing @ zathras and @ zatrhas. Obviously the same person.
Then, I thought, I wonder if @ fubar165 and @ fubar-bdhr are also. Then interesting enough here on Beerbot's post and look who upvoted him.

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If you look at zathras or fubar you'll see similar voting. Also they all resteem steem cleaner.
I guess one person, one vote doesn't apply here in the steemit world. So you're post obviously was flagged by one person who counts as 5

@thebitcoinparty I see you made a similar post.

Yes, it's called Influence, you gain more by investing into the community, the incentive creates value, the more you have invested into the community the more likely you are to want the community to succeed and in turn your investment, that's why the more you invest the more influence you have the more your vote counts. If you're interested you can ask around, because one vote and one account opens up the system to sibyl attacks, so that the mob of one person's account would rule them all, instead vests are split (SteamPower) based on how much you have in your account.

Autoflagging and what we refer to here as flag wars, are unavoidable realities of people curating content, an expression of their freedom of speech. This platform is designed to be censorship proof, meaning that even if the fronted could (hypothetically) censor the content, the content on the blockchain where the front end gets it's data from, cannot be altered or censored/removed, and the account cannot be "moderated" or otherwise controlled by someone other than the owner themselves, bar lost passwords/ stolen accounts.

What one account has differs from another, and even the base account funded through SteemIt.com and not busy.org, or another front end, where you pay to fund the account, has changed and will continue to change based on the required steem that the account needs before it can curate/post and the value of steem at the time, "one person who counts as 5" is not the point, if you believe that it's not fair, regardless of this being proven/demonstrated for over a year now, you are free to create and distribute your own coin, and base it all off the blockchain we have here, Steem is open source after all. Sitting on steem and crying about how steem isn't fair because one person one vote, is like being invited to a party, there's prizes and cool people everywhere, and because these people made fun of you, crying about these people making fun of you is actually going to do something about anything, those offenders won't listen, and the people at the party are expected to defend you.

Either you get over what other people express themselves like on steem, or you will be the few in the corner whining and supporting each other with "censorship, censorship everywhere", followed by an anthem of "I am a victim".

@queeneleanor
they're all accounts belonging to steemcleaners
only accounts they say, can promote

I was pretty upset yesterday to see that the people in power or higher than us use it to their benefit . They don't really care what we post or anything , they just care for themselves , selfish , yes. We can post the same content and not receive anything , I've seen it

Yeah life's not fair, some people are going to use their investment one way and others will use it how they see fit, it ultimately is their money. If everyone was selfish this place would suck, but you have no hope of reaching people if you don't wish to start on some common ground, by calling them selfish you have removed any conversation to be had with such people, since you've sat a fat sign on your door saying "no selfish people allowed".

Complaining about stuff that you have no power over or that is none of your business, like what other people should do with their influence, will never solve anything or seek to. If you think that you deserve the same response of someone else and are complaining that you didn't receive the same response, it's because people aren't robots, and one might have a larger more engaged audience than another, one might have a certain quality that the other doesn't, the factors that are obvious aside there's who knows how many other reasons why such things happen, but the point is that you either cry about how the world responded to you and pin your self on what others think of your content, or you take ownership over your content and don't build your expectations on other people's work.

Yeah, welcome to the ugly side of steem where money equals power

I agree
flaggin is WRONG

How can you tell if you've been downvoted or flagged? I see my posts lose value, but I thought that happened as the post "aged" or whatever.

On posts, if you click on votes, it will show upvotes with a "+" and downvotes with a "-", then the person's name who did the voting

Oh okay. Thank you.

I actually made a post about the different ways you can tell if your post has been flagged, and if so, who flagged you. You are welcome to check it out on my page, don't want to throw a link into someone elses post out of respect for them.

This post received a 2.7% upvote from @randowhale thanks to @queeneleanor! For more information, click here!

Great :)

There is also good in this. Some people (not you) are just evil and will post lies to destroy your reputation. There must be a form of policing to protect the innocent from 'fiends' surely? I would say though that there should be a way of redress. If you feel aggrieved you should have a channel to go down to voice your discontent. It never pays in the long run to publish discontent or names on the block chain. X

If they don't start none, won't be none. Their flags and comments hurt the people that they flag and they know this. It is arbitrary and these people don't work for steemit.inc. So it is ok to be a bully if you have a lot of power? But it is nokay to fight back and namedrop because it might hurt their feelings? There is no good in Nazi behavior.

That is why a system of redress is required. Complaining on line is no good, we require a pathway to an arbiter who can legitimately look into the issue. Flagging by us would make the post visible to this arbiter who can make the 'official' decision. Better than causing grievances unnecessarily. Just my thoughts, as I said I have been on the receiving end of nasty people who published lies about me. The post did not get general coverage because it was flagged up by several of the people you now criticize. There are two sides to every story. I am sorry if this offends it is not meant to, I just want to make you aware of the other side to the story. X

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

What would that look like, who would be the arbiter? Who would have admin privilege on a platform inherently against privileges such as those because the sure fire way to undermine the whole platform and community. What do you propose?

OMG I don't know. I am sorry I got drawn into this, I only wanted to give a sense of the other side. I come from a country with the rule of law, so generally, respect for authority is usual. I expect authority to play fair, as I expect the powers that be will play fair. I am not used to the concept of free for all. I am now withdrawing from this debate. I wish everyone, peace, goodwill and happiness. X

Why are you resulting to exasperation and wish to drop your initial proposal, I only asked what you propose. This has nothing to do with rule of law or countries, we were discussing creating arbiter positions which you suggested, I thought you could tell us what you propose, and wouldn't be some kind of assault or demand.

Honestly, I am not getting exasperated. I have had a few harsh replies to my comments. I only wanted to put a suggestion forward. I have no interest in creating aggression. I love this platform and get great delight from the interaction from like minded people. I just pointed out the other side of flagging. I had a malicious assault on myself and it was thanks to several of the people who had been named, that this malicious post was stopped from going out fully. There is an absolute need for someone to 'police' the site for awful content. I just thought there should be someone who the aggrieved can go to to redress their issue.
This someone has got to have the power to take an action and also over turn an action where necessary. He/she therefore must be part of Steemit, a paid employee perhaps. My thoughts on rule of law were stated to just say, we all have to trust in this. The arbiter must be trusted to do the job, that is all I meant. I am lucky; generally, I have confidence in the role of government and policing, because my life experiences have shown me that overall, I can trust my government/police to follow rules. (always exceptions of course, that is why I say generally)! I do ramble. Hope this answers you. Kind Regards. X

That would be nice, but the problem is that even if you could get the competent people, and enough of them, you couldn't get the funding for it, and then you would have to deal with issues of corruption or otherwise bias.

The people that police the site for awful content are the people that pollute the site with awful content, and everyone else. The community polices itself.

You, among others, believe that terms like "malicious assault" give your story more credibility and importance, but it doesn't, you were flagged, by the community, and more precisely, your content, the content you authored was flagged by the community. There was no boogieman on the internet, who assaulted you, as much as you like to equate it to such, it was simply people curating content, or better yet, people speaking their minds.

Like the troll that now tags along everywhere I go, you are affected by words on a screen that strangers type up. I am not saying that those things don't affect people, or they shouldn't, I am simply drawing attention to that fact, that is usually equated to what you eat I don't shit. What they think of you, what they comment, is not what you must think or what is true, it's simply what they think of you. I am not saying that don't care about what people say or think about you at all, because I think everything catering for considerable should be considered so that excludes considering insulting remarks, or blatant lies, but not a reasoned insult pertaining to what we were discussing.

No system can ever be perfect. There has to be an element of trust that the position will not be abused. I realise there is a very fine line between restrictions and freedom. How could an Arbiter restrict though? He/she would be there only to be approached when someone feels unfairly treated. The flagging system (according to some) does not work and is being abused. Would it not be better for those who feel unfairly treated to have someone to go to rather than be angry and frustrated, live on the block chain. As to the schematics of it; there are better business brains out there than I, I just made a gentle suggestion. Sorry. X

If you read the whitepaper it talks about abuse, and it says that as long as abuse is not rampant it's ok. I have been in plenty of flag wars, I have seen a lot of flag wars, and it's not rampant and for it to be rampant nearly everyone here would have to flag each other. The only way for you to change the flagging system is by abusing it so much that it becomes rampant and a hardfork is required to change the system. The whitepaper is under the hamburger menu next to your name, it's fairly outdated but the general principles and rules haven't changed.

Thanks, I haven't read it but I have read this. https://steemit.com/steemcleaners/@steemcleaners/announcing-steemcleaners-the-steemit-abuse-fighting-team
Found it while I was looking for an answer to my immediate problem....it wont let me post on steem! Last night I could not even reply to posts. The system kept telling me: bandwidth limit exceeded. Please wait to transact or power up STEEM. It just shows you how little I know! Appreciate the effort and dialogue. X

You have a good point. There should be an arbiter. Unfortunately there isn't one so we are left with the devices we have available. I do understand the need for some entity to guard against personal attacks and plagairism, however we don't need a nanny to protect us from advertising. I have discernment, I do not see the need for an anti-spam censorship brigade. I am an anarchist. This is too much like a centralized government telling people what is ok for them to see or not see i.e fascism, hence the reference to Nazis. I wish @jeffberwick , the @dollarvigilante could see this, he is big enough to put a suggestion in that would be read. And maybe heeded.

I agree there should be some mechanism to fight plagiarism I just don't see a solution better than the current system. One option is tocentralize things and put some actual steemit employed admins on to enforce some set of rules everyone has to follow.

If you don't want that centralization of power then you leave it up to the people to police themselves. When you do that people are free to use their voting power to upvote or downvote whatever they see fit, regardless of reason.

I totally agree with you. We need the powerful to take the issue forward. I am sorry I got involved because a white middle class 'wrinkly' with no experience really of the www other than using it as a fantastic research tool and publisher of my 'ramblings'; I only thought an Arbiter would help those who feel aggrieved and enable them to get redress from somewhere, without having to resort to anger. I understand their frustrations. I also understand the other side too. There is a need for someone to stop malicious content. I hope you understand I am not involved, just an outsider who tried to put another point of view forward. I agree nor disagree with anything. I have suggested this to both of the above. X

I understand and I also see that you have some of the yummiest recipes on steemit. I followed you.

You are so kind. I do feel bad about getting involved with the discussion on 'trolls'. I cannot keep my big mouth shut!!! X

If they don't start none, won't be none. Their flags and comments hurt the people that they flag and they know this.

Words don't hurt, curating content as crap doesn't hurt. People should be able to speak their minds in spite of your sensibilities that they shouldn't criticize or disagree with you.

It is arbitrary and these people don't work for steemit.inc.

It has nothing to do with that, if you read the whitepaper you would realize that. People are free to speak their minds, flagging content is curating, they can freely express their opinions of content, negative or positive.

So it is ok to be a bully if you have a lot of power?

Words on screens aren't a bully, again you are very sensitive to words on screen because you don't think it's fair that people should express their mind like they do with words on screen, people aren't attacking you, or your content, they are voting with their voting power on how many rewards, if any this content gets, but because you think they are I suggest you get off the internet as people will always use words to speak their minds and very likely they will disagree with your or even call you names because of your rationale or attack your character, but you must remember that there is a inherent and definite difference between attacking your character and attacking your person, the later involving physical harm, the former involving insulting you.

We should start @antitroll account and stick it to em. If a lot of minnows delegate their power like minnowsupport does, then we have an account to fight Nazi trolls like @steemcleaners and their merry band of bullshit artists. #antitroll I was told this was a censorship free environment. We should also push for reparations. @dan @ned do you see what this self appointed group is doing to steemit? Or do you even care?

We should also push for reparations.

Because you are entitled to the upvotes but not the downvotes. It's not yours if it's not in your account, if the post is still getting voted on by people, then the rewards aren't yet yours, if people chose to vote against your post and you cry about that then you are saying people on the internet harmed you by stealing your rewards, well not stealing, just removing and putting back in the reward pool, which is why you think you're entitled to the rewards because you deserve the upvotes but not the downvotes.

Nazi Trolls? Got to fight those dragons, Don Quixote.

There is a powerful anti bitconnect group here. They down vote all bitconnect stuff.

Yes welcome to some new type censorship on steemit i am see everyone post about any mining being flag as spam it is 100% censorship and i am sure it is what steemit was trying to stop.
@steemcleaners you gonna censor this to

"new type censorship" equated because people curate content negatively. Makes sense, next we will try to have freedom of speech, except that when people speak their mind negatively that's not allowed because it's not freedom of speech to say or express something negative, only upvotes are allowed in free speech, no jeering no booing, and no curating content as 1 star, because curating things as 1 star is censorship, everyone gets 5 stars always, for ever. YAY FREEDOM.

Welcome and Thank You for being with us!! Following your Blog now

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Certain people will defend this to a GB worth of text, while others will attack it with the same vigour.
Bottom line as I see it, it is a Financial Oligarchy and they do nothing to hide the fact. It's so easy to arrogantly tell someone, "Durp, it's open source and you're free to start your own...". It's a valid point yet as far from reality as one can get. Most people can't afford that kind of equipment or even know how to configure it in the first place. Let's try to keep this reality-based.
Anyone who defends an act of one person influencing curation on the front-end by means of multiple accounts and bots, etc. is obviously not a good person. Just because abuse is built into and encouraged within the steem system doesn't make it good or right. No account should be allowed to be nuked by the actions of one, and that is exactly what can happen.
I understand the base concept when not abused as being beneficial. But in the short month I've been here that's all I've seen is abuse and mis-use (hell, content doesn't even matter any more so long as one has a sufficient Network... you can post pictures of other people's dog crap and so long as your crew upvotes it you all make profit, posting spam, while smashing the opinions of other little fish trying to support other little fish).
It is b.s. I would leave... except I'm not here just for profit, it's sorta fun calling out the Illuminati/NWO 2.0 Wannabes.
And for anyone to defend the ability to nullify the upvotes and potential payouts from 20, 30, 40 or more Red Fish/Minnows by the flag of ONE account (or one person controlling a Network of Accounts) is to listen to someone defending tyranny & oppression. Even in a "made-up" world called a "social site" that "makes up the rules for it's own gain".... bad is just bad. Typing and quoting "the White Papers say it's allowed and encouraged, screw you're opinion" doesn't make it any more good or right.

This is a great post, I think if more people expose this than all the flags in the world won't help it all catch up to them.

Congratulations, you've been curated as crap by some people, will you let this control your life, or will you get over what some people think? Instead of feeling indignant and assaulted I offer you a chance to take a breath next time and realize you're talking about people on the internet. Words on a screen.

If you cannot handle the way people curate your content, I suggest you get the fuck out and don't look back. Otherwise enjoy the novelty of being flagged, because nobody owes you any explanations, nobody is here to make it all nice and equal in distribution of power.

Good luck finding a place on the internet where trolls don't exist or people can speak their mind as they want, without needing to explain or convince you that their boo and jeers at you were justified. It's called curation, and you either take those flags like a champ as you would your upvotes or you don't post content on a decentralized transparent network and head over to the next coin that offers something remotely to steam.

Lmfao. You sure think high enough of yourself to think I give 2 shits about your opinion. I bet you feel real important now. Trolls anywhere else on the internet only talk shit. Trolls on Steemit can take away profit from a post. Obviously many others agree with me. So stop thinking your opinion matters, and go do what you do what you do best elsewhere...which is obviously being a troll. D bag.

They took away profits from the post? Yeah, it's called curating content, it can get curated to have profit or to not have profits. What many agree with you doesn't make it true or right, that is why this is still here and has been here long before you joined. I will stop thinking and let "trolls" on the internet tell me what to think of myself.

Thank you for your hypocrisy, obviously you're ok with curating stuff as crap, but you cannot take your own stuff being curated as crap.

You're not very bright are you. Did you actually look at the pages of the names I posted who flagged my original posts? They all belonged to 1 or 2 different people with multiple accounts. That's not called curating, it's called taking advantage of the system and being a dick. There was nothing crap about my original post...it was basic information. If everyone thought the way you did, and just started flagging every post because they don't care about it, Steemit would be one trash and no one new wound ever join. Keep up the good work of proving how much of an idiot you are

It doesn't become not curating simply because you say so. It doesn't become not curating because you say it's abuse, or because they belong to the same person, that person invested into the platform because of the incentive to curate or not, but when they are using that investment, regardless of how spread or divided it is to curate, it's called curating.

It was curated as crap, because obviously someone thought it was crap. Nobody can censor you on a censorship proof blockchain, and affecting your visibility isn't censorship any more than curating things affects their visibility. Obviously if your content's not popular, it won't appear popular. Equally if your content is flag it will appear as zero value.

So according to you, I should just be ok with this @adm bitch constantly flagging my post to remove all rewards I had? Yeah ok...sounds good. His account is $750,000 so he can basically remove rewards from any post from anyone no matter how much the rewards are. I can't wait to find out who this guy is...I have the resources to find him and I will find him and we'll have a nice little chat. See you soon @adm!!!

You're entitled to the upvotes but not the downvotes correct, you are entitled to people curating your content with their investment into influence as positive but should someone curate it as negative you don't deserve that right, because you will get mad and "have a nice little chat". O no the internet is hurting you, you better defend yourself by euphemistic threats like "we'll have a nice little chat". Or come on my posts to tell us what you think about myself, because that makes you that much more correct in regards with your views on what you deserve and what you don't deserve for your content.

Yes exactly. Now fuck off...I'll be visiting your page very often, don't you worry. I'll save my most powerful flags for your posts you twat