Only in it for the money

shanibeer (68) · 5 years ago

I think people come for community and shared interests as well. Money and freedom are quite individual attributes, whereas what makes Steem fun and valuable is the social interaction. Sometimes this verges towards the dramatic - some people enjoy that and I must admit that, although I don't engage with it, I do sometimes enjoy watching it play out - and sometimes it's a bit quiet, like being in the pub and there's no one to play darts with. But generally, on the whole, I've made some good friends and come into contact with a whole range of people with similar interests ... or they just know things :)

It's also a great place for learning, whether that's an interest, or about the blockchain itself. That, I find infinitely interesting, and the ingenious way that people develop to both game the system and to counter people gaming the system. Rapid, fearless iteration!

We haven't even started to see what social and economic benefits Steem can bring, I'm not sure we can even imagine them yet, the way this new technology works brings so many new affordances. We're (where I work, I mean) continuing to work on our ideas for how Steem could benefit charities and I don't doubt that in ten years time, Steem will be commonplace :)

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

I want to see people come here for shared interests. If you can get enough people around those then it can be useful and fun. I like to follow the developments of the platform too as I'm excited to be involved in something this radical.

Can I ask if you consider yourself tech-savvie? Ease of use does seem to be a problem for many new users. Some I know have joined, but do not use it.

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shanibeer (68) · 5 years ago

I'm not sure what tech-savvie means :)

I'm more interested in the social impact of digital communications networks and digital social environments. I knew blockchain was important long before I arrived at Steem, and I was looking for an opportunity to learn about it and understand it.

I knew it could help musicians and other creative people, although not exactly how, and I had an idea and still have an idea that it could bridge the gap between the growing social care needs of an ageing population and some of the underemployment and poverty we have in some areas. I'm still working on discovering how that could happen, but I know it is about a matter of time rather than it isn't possible.

I think to have De Montfort University interested and starting to get to grips with some of the myths is a bit of a coup, a marked change from my first meeting with them in August. I'm really looking forward to SteemCampUK, because I think once the University staff meet lots of ordinary people who are engaged with blockchain technology everyday, we will start to see some greater movement. I'm interested in who their experts will be: they told me that Derbyshire Police Force have developed an expertise around Bitcoin fraud/scams and any incidents from anywhere in the country are referred to them - I'd like to hear meet someone from there.

I very rarely (if ever) feel downhearted on Steem.

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

I just meant if you consider yourself a technical person when it comes to IT. All the talk of keys and markdown can be bewildering even before you consider the blockchain. Other sites just need a password.

Getting the university involved could lead to new ideas and charities could make use of it too. I guess they have to consider how they account for any income. Not sure the tax man has really caught up with crypto.

Great to hear you are still upbeat about it and I am really looking forward to SteemCampUK. Ought to get that hotel booked.

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shanibeer (68) · 5 years ago

I'm not a technical person, my niece had to show me how to turn on data usage on the phone I've had for five years last weekend :)

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

I forgot to serve you a !BEER :)

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shanibeer (68) · 5 years ago

Oh, thank you, that's what I need after a hard evening on the keyboard 😎

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sabasgr68 (47) · 5 years ago (edited)

Great post, @steevc. I still have a lot to learn about Steemit (I think I´m still 100% ignorant). I came for two reasons, one of them money as you said (I´m from Venezuela, and you have said an absolut truth: maybe $ 30,50,100 or a little more may not be "that much" in many countries, but here it may be the difference from eating or not, or getting a medicine or not; sad but true. By the way, thanks for being aware of our situation. Not because we can still use internet, and play guitar -for example-, it means things are good here; actually, social etworks and music are just ways of escaping reality for some time); the other was the place itself: according to what I read, people can post what they like, can interact with many other people around the world, it´s better than twitter since you can post more without the character limitation, and , again, people can have some earnings from writing about anything they like, once they get some followers. I got interested because of it.
Have to check on eSteem and Steempeak.
Blockchains is chinesse to me -I don´t speak chinesse-.
So, I´m here to know people, with common interests, and to try to make some money, but being honest with what I post.
Good!

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

Well you beat me on speaking another language :) You have obviously managed to get somewhere with using Steem. Did you struggle with it at first? You say you do not know much about blockchain, but are you experienced with other computer technology?

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sabasgr68 (47) · 5 years ago

:) I´m beginning to understand how some things work here. I´m afraid I´m not that fast regarding some computer/informatic stuff; I´m trying to remedy it. I´m doing my homework researching what to do with the BEER you´ve just sent me. Thanks a lot!

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

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enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

I'm just here to troll like a hipster in an underground community.

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

That shows lack of ambition. There are much bigger communities you could be trolling. But if course we are honoured to have your trollery on Steem.

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enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

Lack of ambition? There is a very good reason why I do it.

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2 votes

johnspalding (62) · 5 years ago

Upvoted for truth!

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nathen007 (68) · 5 years ago

I am absolutely in agreement with @shanibeer regarding other reasons for coming here. I would be disappointed if I'd come for freedom. There is very very little here and it's getting worse. Freedom can be bought if you have money but most can't make money unless they have freedom which those that sadly need it most don't have and those that could give it, don't.
Steem has to be more than money and freedom or it will be stuck in the loop that's in now forever

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

How do you think we have less freedom? We can vote stuff down, but we cannot take it off the blockchain and anyone could put up a site that ignores downvotes when it comes to ranking posts.

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

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whatsup (75) · 5 years ago

A third reason...

Crypto Education and curiosity was my original reason.

steevc (73) · 5 years ago

I think that is a factor too. I had played around with crypto faucets and some other stuff, but Steem is my biggest crypto holding by far and I love the technology. I expect some people don't really care as long as they get paid.

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iflagtrash (63) · 5 years ago

This ignorant user is spreading dangerous lies in order to attempt to gain popularity and attention from the new commie overlord. Ignore the ignorant twat bag, you'll immediately feel better about your life.

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bozz (70) · 5 years ago

Once I realized this isn't the place to be making a ton of money my focus has always been on growing my account. I would like to one day be able to throw out some big upvotes and not have to worry so much about growing. It feels like everything I do right now is still focused on growing. One day I would like to be able to cash out some rewards, but I need to be in a stable place where I can be helping others and sustain myself before I do that.

steevc (73) · 5 years ago

Growing our own accounts and the community in general are the ways to add value to Steem. I think everyone should have a chance to cash out and I don't hold it against them as I have done it myself.

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movingman (69) · 5 years ago

Im on here just because I can be I guess,and im embrassing the blockchain revolution. I am thinking recently about the digital future and digital ID's and reputations and for people with no facebook, and bank accounts ect to be able to have something to show others.
The ones who will refuse any microchip and government UBI, will be needing Crypto, but Iget it that the masses wont change and a minority will be 'fugitives of the system'

I forget that people expect to be earning money from here but there are a few like me who just do it to firstly store things on chain and to just use it to make up the number of users and to have access to a social mediathat isnt full of twats. Just taking part in an experiment of the steem social media platforms.

Thank fuck someone else owns steemit.com now, thats a great change to bring steem more marketing even if we are well before its time.

Feels like another era has begun with steem since the last being #newsteem

steevc (73) · 5 years ago

Obviously some people are desperate for any money they can make, but I think a fair few want the platform to succeed for the greater good. My Steem was worth almost $100k at one point before the price crashed. If it gets there again I may well take some out and treat the family. Going for the quick buck is a bad strategy as there is far more to be made if we actually help Steem grow.

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onthewayout (59) · 5 years ago

there has to be a critical mass of users and compelling content to keep them here.

The problem that I see is the limitation on the number of accounts that can be claimed. Right now the limit is 2295 accounts per day which amounts to 837,675 per year... that is not enough to reach any sort of critical mass.

I understand that in order to prevent a spamming attack on the network limitations are needed but this could also be achieved by allowing a much higher number of claimable accounts per day.

To prevent a spam attack we can just limit the operations allowed to new accounts to only power up a minimun of 3 steem. If the new accounts do not have the steem needed to power up then whoever is onboarding should pickup the slack by delegating resource credits.

steevc (73) · 5 years ago

I was not aware of that limitation. But if we could even get some active communities of a few thousand people then Steem would be more compelling. I see from the stats @penguinpablo produces that we have been gaining 2000 to 3000 accounts per week, so there is scope for fast more, but I'm not sure how many of those actually do anything. We need real active users.

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