I think @abh12345 asked a valid question in What if all users delegated to bidbots? I don't think the response you gave to the question was adequate.
Since I run and develop Smartsteem.com - I'm in charge of a big stakeholder bid-bot & promotion service and I'm open to hear your feedback of what needs to change and possible solutions!
It seems that there is an extreme unwillingness for the owners/delegators/operators of bidbots to actually engage with any part of the community who sees what they are doing as harmful for the larger community. None seem to want to actually explore let alone find a solution because it is going to likely cost them profits.
When people do not respond it means they are unwilling to take responsibility for their actions which in this case likely means they know the harmful nature and their claims are nonsense.
There has been a mountain of data showing the harmful nature of bidbots, where is the data showing their value to the community? This is blockkchain and you guys are experts, rather than make claims, show proof. I am open to be convinced to the benevolent nature of bidbots once all the numbers are added up.
hear, hear!
Good luck in getting a response. As you have written an intelligent reply of over 20 words, your chances are slim based on what I see so far.
They have no proof because it does not exist - you know this, I know this, and a growing number of agitated users know this.
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I'm spending most of my time developing - so excuse my low reply-rate.
But I guess you won't understand, since you only add "value" through blogging.
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Good luck with future work.
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@tarazkp
I don't see the point of that question and I will def. not get forced to answer it. There is no reason (!) to think about that case. If you are against bid-bot delegations, then say it - but don't ask ridicioulus questions which are simply trying to put fear in people.
You shouldn't put everyone in the same pot. @themarkymark and me are doing more than the rest combined.
And just because nobody else is doing anything, doesn't give you the right to put the blame on me.
I feel that since I do care about Steem - people are willing to put the blame on me and find the mistakes I do, instead of looking at those who are doing nothing.
Possible. But I personally won't respond to personal attacks and ridiculous questions.
Show me the data.
Anyway - thanks for commenting @tarazkp!
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When your bot votes the few low value votes that i, and the newbs, do get are diminished in value.
Your bid bot is taking bread out of mouths that live in countries where a dollar a day feeds them.
Arent you proud of your profits now?
Its ok, we see the price doing what it needs to do, when you, and others like you, can no longer make a profit here you will move on to rape something else and those of us still here can rebuild from the ashes of the platform that your profits burned down.
Too bad those folks in venezuela will have starved by then, but that is just the price of crapitalusts profiting, eh?
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The point of the question is: if the bidbot system ( the one you develop and defend) is fundamentally beneficial, than everyone should delegate all they have to them as it will be in the best interest of both platform and individual.
I put no blame on you other than as one of the developers and 2nd largest operator. There has been no personal attack made by me as to me, it doesn't matter who you are. However, developer and 2nd largest operator implies a certain amount of expertise, knowledge amd carries responsibility as such.
@paulag showed conservatively how much is paid and how narrow the spread is.
The system is broken, untenable and is quickly destroying the community yet, still no answers. Still no actual data showing the bidbots are helping the community. Does it exist?
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The real problem is everyone always wants 1/2 of the data. If we pull data on bid bot delegations and distribution, we also need to pull data on self-delegation/ self-votes distribution. Delegation and self-voting is a 1/1 distribution at least the bid-bot are there for anyone to use. One is a single purchase for 1 vote the other is an extended purchase for many votes. Both are pay to play and they BOTH need to be addressed without singling out one side.
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They are on the same side. Paid delegation is a problem I have spoken about too many times. For the most part to cover the cost one has to self vote. The numbers don't add up for it. As long as there is profit to buy, the maximisers will maximise.
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I know, you know. You're losing big time and the votes you can't give, to cover what you can is costing many, many more users. That is what I am referring to. Delegation as a whole is fucked up, IF people really want to support a project, VOTE the project, strip the delegation.
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