RE: Is Steemit’s Success and Democracy at Risk from Crab Mentality?

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Is Steemit’s Success and Democracy at Risk from Crab Mentality?

in steemit-community •  8 years ago 

Vigilante got some flak cause people did not recognize a troll post. It was obvious it was a parody from the start when you begin reading his blog post. It is funny how some people got offended by it.

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Yes anger comes through online, but people miss humor.

I think it is a mindset and expectation thing from predetermined assumptions.

People just thought V was an ass, so they were not surprised to see his post that fit their confirmation bias.

They say sarcasm doesn't work well online, but I think it is a reader error...

I suppose my biggest critic would be, challenge him directly on the post, or DM him on chat. You would find out quite quickly your assumptions were wrong if you though he was being serious. Calling someone a name without knowing their intentions is wrong.

Luckily they picked someone who (I imagine) has the thickest skin on this platform...

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  1. As long as flagging can offset payout, there will be a disincentive to disagree with popular thought.
  2. As long as people decide not to reward dissent there will be a disincentive to disagree with popular thought.
  3. "a number of trusted community leaders (with the ability to reallocate resources to..."
    You can't stop someone with sufficient SP hoards from flagging according to his wont, or to upvote trash. You can't affect anything, so this trust would be pointless.
  4. "Let's create a community [with freedom, freedom of speech etc etc]"
    I guess you can try to appeal to ideals - emotional manipulation is perhaps the only device available to small SP holders to affect Steem and SBD distribution.

I'm not complaining btw, I just want to inject a little realism. This is not a free and fair society - at least not more so than other social media. And you are pretty powerless if your pockets aren't sufficiently deep. There will always be censorship as long as Steem is distributed by voting, and as long as vote value is directly proportional with SP holdings.

More blockchain clients will perhaps faciliate the viewing of certain content, but at the end of the day masses will be concentrated in a minority of popular clients, so won't even have a significant effect.

I like #steemit because it messes with the "any publicity is good publicity" creed! :-D

Interesting way to look at it @pyrocolada

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I just think that sarcasm as he wrote is a terrible way to communicate and will only lead to misunderstandings like this. The dude needs to learn how to write for media, you would think that after all his years in the biz, he would understand the power of clear, legible writing.

And he does... He was simply trying to save face later on by calling it sarcasm after everyone started bashing him for calling Steemit a scam on the front page of the website.

There is no shortage of good discussion about anarchy going on inside steemit. One thing for sure is, its not happening on DOllarVilgiante's blog. All that is going on there, is really silly posts of him learning to use the platform. That is rather boring to read. He is embarrassing himself, on his own blog, permanently in the blockchain. I am embarrassed for him and I no longer wish to associate with him. He has been muted. I will check back with him in a few months if I think about it to see if he has turned things around and started writing something interesting.

"The dude needs to learn how to write for media" - Dude has started a media company based off his writing that was worth $240 million at one point and currently has another multi-million dollar media enterprise. Dude may also already be the top Steemer on Steemit inside of a few days. You got some tips on how to write for me, kiddo?

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

I do have something for you that I think anarchist and just everyone else on this platform needs to see and understand. It's about love and compassion:
https://steemit.com/anarchism/@sterlinluxan/fiery-anarchists-and-online-debate-leveraging-emotional-intelligence-and-overcoming-volatile-impulses
It's not all about money and proving you are right or someone else is wrong.

It was clickbait, plain and simple! People don't like it..."Steemit is a scam! How Bernie Sanders Screwed Me!"

It was full of sarcasm, but some people didn't notice that.

Admittedly, I haven't been able to follow what happened as closely as I should, but I've read his parody rant post and all I could say is, "to each his own". He's doing his own thing, and I'm happy that he's reaping the rewards of all his years of hard work. It's disheartening for a lot of users who've been working hard in the trenches for some time now here in Steemit, but I guess that's a case study that can be used to improve the system in general.

With regard to the animosity people feel, I'm not entirely sure how that can be alleviated. Posts like @hisnameisolllie put up though might be good to ease some misunderstanding.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Post that got flaged first wasn't parody or sarcasm post it was info about how streemit works. The second one that was ridiculing flaged of first one and that one was sarcastic, but some people found it insulting and flaged also, but in the end, it got monetary recognition.

the truth is, many people have not the ability to recognize parody. It not that they didn't want, its just that they are not able to. Especially in communication with words, humans often misunderstand each other, because humans are not designed to communicate through just writing.

True..... It came down to people reading the headline and not the content. I read a post where the upvote button should be removed from the pages before the article is opened, at least make me scroll blindly through the article before casting a vote without reading.