Is there a limit to self-voting with delegated Steem Power?

If I sold you a flask and instead of filling it with water, you decided to smash someone's face in with it, am I at fault?

So what's with all the finger pointing at @blocktrades, @freedom, @smooth, etc?

These accounts are providing a service, just like Walmart are when supplying flasks, and they cannot be held responsible for what the buyer does with the product.

At 3:30 am Central Time this morning (12/12/2017), @blocktrades had a total of 3,828,944.053 Steem Power leased out to 575 Accounts.

Would you like to spend your time monitoring the activity of this number of accounts?

We have the right to highlight major wrong-doings, but not to point the finger at the salesperson - as in the right hands this product for sale can raise the community to the stars.

_source

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In data we trust?

I'm going to assume from this point that the key metric in deciding if an account is using their delegated Steem Power appropriately is the self-voting of their own content.

To spare you all the complete list, the accounts have been filtered to show only the accounts voting for themselves more than 16.7% of the time.

Why 16.7%?

Why not?.. Here, we hit the first issue... What is an acceptable Self-voting percentage?

100%? 50%? 20%? 0%? 'Well it depends if I'm paying for my SP or not so screw you %'?

I chose 16.7% because it is the average self-voting percentage (over the past 7 days) of 6 household names you may recognize:

Account	7 day Self-vote %	Owns delegated SP
@acidyo	20.9%	Yes
@aggroed	13.3%	No
@blocktrades	2.7%	No
@good-karma	23.5%	Yes
@kingscrown	28.5%	Yes
@stellabelle	11.2%	No

Ummm... anyway, moving swiftly on to the list, which is ordered by Self-vote percentage over the past 7 days:

Name	Posts	Votes	Unique	Self	Self-Vote %
@ivanmendes	137	90	0	90	100.0%
@bechir	0	78	0	78	100.0%
@aboutall	65	65	0	65	100.0%
@mrprive	0	45	0	45	100.0%
@somenathsen	21	22	0	22	100.0%
@cryptorainforest	9	10	0	10	100.0%
@diosarich	10	10	0	10	100.0%
@crystalblue	0	4	0	4	100.0%
@cheihuey	0	1	0	1	100.0%
@criptotradingesp	1	1	0	1	100.0%
@firary	64	45	2	44	97.8%
@rymlen	45	114	5	107	93.9%
@ismailsteem	12	116	4	100	86.2%
@th1nkfast	0	58	8	50	86.2%
@cura	29	37	3	29	78.4%
@maaz23	8	22	3	17	77.3%
@dortkdortm	7	13	2	10	76.9%
@tony10	15	82	13	63	76.8%
@innavtsh	12	16	4	12	75.0%
@valikos	7	92	22	68	73.9%
@adrianobalan	8	96	11	70	72.9%
@austinhopper	2	31	8	22	71.0%
@booster007	0	80	12	56	70.0%
@fl32biz	15	135	39	94	69.6%
@tanmoybanerjee	88	158	19	110	69.6%
@hassanabid	20	71	4	49	69.0%
@red-rose	29	328	24	226	68.9%
@kwalker	19	30	9	20	66.7%
@ehabfox	14	89	20	59	66.3%
@kawsardj	13	47	4	31	66.0%
@jahangirbalti	25	96	19	63	65.6%
@ranjithpvrp	5	55	12	36	65.5%
@mpraveen	32	54	12	35	64.8%
@jorlenbolivar	42	141	18	91	64.5%
@cryptomaker	33	88	23	55	62.5%
@davidpakman	36	64	20	39	60.9%
@abdo00	14	23	5	14	60.9%
@jesca	3	5	2	3	60.0%
@beautifulbullies	16	112	32	67	59.8%
@alamin0263	34	189	64	107	56.6%
@ak2154	3	70	20	38	54.3%
@sayee	17	95	40	51	53.7%
@shagor0168	21	60	8	32	53.3%
@itsyeboy	9	17	1	9	52.9%
@tipu	8	516	192	269	52.1%
@vipins	19	145	50	74	51.0%
@abdelhamidtsouli	37	87	11	44	50.6%
@siswadi	65	168	45	82	48.8%
@lasper	9	144	33	70	48.6%
@aldokhan	20	42	6	20	47.6%
@csteemit	5	19	7	9	47.4%
@iliasdiamantis	0	155	58	73	47.1%
@yusifm	4	85	35	40	47.1%
@dexterslab	5	47	13	22	46.8%
@xyz666	12	346	62	159	46.0%
@aksakal	17	37	15	17	45.9%
@pouchon	2	68	28	31	45.6%
@nazirkhyber	13	31	9	14	45.2%
@learnandgrow	7	158	25	71	44.9%
@momar	11	62	5	27	43.5%
@sames	2	67	17	29	43.3%
@sdwahine	14	102	47	44	43.1%
@johnlubb	2	14	5	6	42.9%
@bi5h0p	0	7	4	3	42.9%
@alextuteu	47	155	32	66	42.6%
@mars9	17	40	18	17	42.5%
@hanitasteemer	1	164	23	69	42.1%
@jassi	13	39	11	16	41.0%
@tezz31	1	5	3	2	40.0%
@brothermic	9	153	67	61	39.9%
@tonygreene113	9	202	69	80	39.6%
@kettleyer	1	88	18	33	37.5%
@phillip20	2	87	28	32	36.8%
@nazarwills	14	96	44	35	36.5%
@altafalazzam	9	121	41	44	36.4%
@waqasahmad911	5	70	18	25	35.7%
@wix	3	73	11	26	35.6%
@wajahatsardar	18	217	48	74	34.1%
@gotgame	4	191	59	65	34.0%
@sumeet9696	16	77	24	26	33.8%
@skreza	8	213	93	71	33.3%
@deemmosqueda	21	85	27	28	32.9%
@ksumma	3	71	44	23	32.4%
@theleapingkoala	5	71	23	23	32.4%
@reaverza	20	63	3	20	31.7%
@iamericmorrison	25	73	28	23	31.5%
@torquewrench1969	4	116	43	36	31.0%
@psychopumpkin	22	71	9	22	31.0%
@mrblu	9	163	35	50	30.7%
@smidge-tv	15	123	25	37	30.1%
@razack-pulo	8	281	86	84	29.9%
@raheelkhan1	51	168	8	50	29.8%
@hairflare	7	159	19	47	29.6%
@minnowsteemwin	70	167	79	49	29.3%
@karanchahal	14	66	33	19	28.8%
@joeuhw	49	171	60	49	28.7%
@alfa-good	32	135	62	38	28.1%
@theduke	29	64	21	18	28.1%
@pegarissimo	11	43	27	12	27.9%
@farihelper	7	54	13	15	27.8%
@nokodemion	10	137	80	38	27.7%
@onthewayout	1	106	35	29	27.4%
@jackjohanneshemp	19	139	42	38	27.3%
@kerry234	7	52	11	14	26.9%
@globetrottergcc	27	395	107	105	26.6%
@razu788	6	64	29	17	26.6%
@wargof	16	62	30	16	25.8%
@cryptodecript	0	4	2	1	25.0%
@nafion	1	4	1	1	25.0%
@cryptopassion	44	144	37	35	24.3%
@steaknsteem	17	132	16	32	24.2%
@intelliguy	3	79	49	19	24.1%
@ygriffiny	14	169	73	40	23.7%
@tarikhakan55	17	89	39	21	23.6%
@thediyworld	8	145	38	34	23.4%
@sardrt	14	262	90	60	22.9%
@arushkandra	5	138	4	31	22.5%
@omar-hesham	6	123	68	27	22.0%
@enchantedspirit	8	87	28	19	21.8%
@flamingbot	2	74	14	16	21.6%
@robin-ho	28	130	13	28	21.5%
@cdemon	0	66	2	14	21.2%
@coolgbd	2	33	18	7	21.2%
@abhishek77	11	67	32	14	20.9%
@alonetime	22	106	59	22	20.8%
@dhouse	3	126	50	26	20.6%
@bahadirk	13	63	8	13	20.6%
@adnanrabbani	6	182	56	37	20.3%
@sharif24	11	94	34	19	20.2%
@phillip20steem	2	65	27	13	20.0%
@foma17	1	25	16	5	20.0%
@badol1994	27	96	52	19	19.8%
@hmushtaq	13	157	51	31	19.7%
@onart	5	180	46	35	19.4%
@phenombot	4	74	14	14	18.9%
@mers	10	53	27	10	18.9%
@dianna1	10	86	65	16	18.6%
@roziansyah23	7	87	49	16	18.4%
@orionsbeltbuckle	2	109	43	20	18.3%
@petrmisan	31	164	85	30	18.3%
@as31	5	33	24	6	18.2%
@briggsy	28	325	177	59	18.2%
@nandas	4	138	36	25	18.1%
@bitbulls	4	106	38	19	17.9%
@artpoet	3	108	56	19	17.6%
@lefactuoscope	4	29	21	5	17.2%
@iyanpol12	21	122	42	21	17.2%
@jovema	32	90	32	15	16.7%
@ebin	2	54	26	9	16.7%
@vigneshvinay	5	36	24	6	16.7%
@dogewm	4	24	8	4	16.7%
@francosteemvotes	1	6	5	1	16.7%

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At the top, we have 10 accounts who have not looked outside their (probably) average content, and are only voting for themselves.

Any argument here that this isn't abuse? Not by many I would have thought.

47 accounts are voting over half the time for themselves - do we then set the bar here?

No? Where then?

When we have accounts paying for their delegated Steem Power, its a little harder than wielding the @fulltimegeek axe when making a decision on what's right and wrong.

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On a brighter note, 124 accounts paying for delegated Steem Power from @blocktrades haven't cast a single vote on themselves in the past 7 days.

@buildawhale, the largest delegate, is one of these accounts with 0% vote to self. Does that make you think a little differently about bid-bots?

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What's the plan then?

Raise awareness is something we can all do.

We can also argue discuss what is acceptable or not and present a general view to the likes of @blocktrades.

Maybe he could then set a ruling: 'Self-voting with over 50% of delegated Steem Power will result in loan termination.'

And then we will no doubt see a host of the accounts in the above list sitting in the 45% zone.

If an 'abuse' percentage wasn't stated at the time of the arrangement and @blocktrades took his own opinion, or the community consensus when terminating a lease, would this work at all?

I can see trouble with both options.

And, did i mention multiple accounts and voting rings? Sigh..

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@blocktrades @spaminator @patrice - if you want a regular list like this let me know.

To everyone else, is this solvable?

Cheers

Asher @abh12345