RE: If you are not a vegan, you should watch this video

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If you are not a vegan, you should watch this video

in vegan •  6 years ago  (edited)

If you are considering a plant based diet at least consider both sides of the argument carefully and don't just emotionally react to this shocking video and let that scare you into eating plants.

There are some seriously negative health impacts to neglecting adding animal foods to your diet.

Animal foods which we have evolved to eat and are essential for our bodies.

Plants simply don't provide all of the nutrition we need.

Furthermore plants actively try to poison us with toxins, they don't want to be eaten. These toxins will, over time, accumulate in your body and ruin your health.

But, it's your choice, eat what you want.


I don't advocate the torture or cruel treatment of any animal, it's up to us as a species to respect them, but also realise we are animals ourselves, apex predators and it is our responsibility to ensure that they are treated and slaughtered humanely with little to no suffering at all.


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Just some of those toxins. Factory farming is unsustainable, but so is agriculture. We need to take back the priaries for the grazing herds of bison in American and millions of Buffalo 🐃 in Africa.

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Exactly, ruminids will regreen the deserts and feed the world. Plant farming breaks down topsoil and destroys the environment.

I've seen that about animals contributing to soil restoration to regreen deserts. It's awesome what they've been able to do in South Africa and Lebanon. Even though I eat a whole-foods plant-based diet I would like to see more of that. The question in my mind however is whether or not the right balance of animals to support the land is equal to the demand for meat, and if not, do we have extra land to spare? A drive across Montana would suggest to me that we do have some to spare, however, utilizing it effectively would mean ending big corporate crony capitalism: and who knows if it's possible to do that without ending up with something even worse. The same political-economic issue is the only reason we see soil depletion due to vegetable farming; we all know it can be done sustainably, indefinitely.

Take a look at this image, all the yellow land can be regreened and all of it will need cattle to do so, millions of them. Grass feeds on urine, manure and rotting carcusses.

We can increase food production immensely in Africa to make famine and poverty history.

For me killing another intelligent sentient being for food is too much.

Industrial agricultural farming is depleting the topsoil across the entire globe.

The demand for vegan and vegetarian products such as wheat, soy, rice and corn is increasing, accelerating the erosion of the topsoil.

Without the topsoil being alive and healthy food will not grow.

Without healthy topsoil plants, insects, ruminids, birds and countless other species of animals will perish and so will millions of people.

Meat heals the body and once enough people realise the truth, we'll use ruminids to replenish the Earth and make it green again.

Death is a part of life, you can't escape that fact by eating a salad.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/25/veganism-intensively-farmed-meat-dairy-soya-maize

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Veganism kills more people and animals than meat eating does.

Maybe more rodents and insects get killed IF our vegetables come from big corporate farms that do everything with machines. However, that is not the way we want to do things, and I think I speak for a large segment of this community, when I say that we prefer to purchase vegetables that come from small, organic, sustainable, eco-friendly farms. Ultimately, that is the best answer for the planet, because it would combine the best usage of land with the healthiest practices. (Incidentally, raising cattle requires many times more acreage to feed an equivalent amount of people, particularly if you want to avoid desertification of the land.)

Wrong, a hectare of grassland if used for animals to feed on produces more energy for humans than plants could ever do. 1000 calories from plants takes a lot more area than does 1000 calories from cattle. Rainforests are being decimated for the planting of crops used for human consumption.

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I guess we have quite different information. I've seen back yards grow enough food to feed a family year round. And having grown up around farms, I've seen that just a few cattle require dozens of acres and still need to be supplemented with feed. Not sure where you got your information, but I got mine from observation and experience. By the way, when you start your sentence with "Wrong", you sound like Trump.

I'm not talking about back yards, I'm talking about industrial monocrop farming. Which accounts for the majority of crops grown on Earth.

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Fair enough, but I think I've made it clear that I'm not in favor of big industrial farming, and am quick to agree that it is an environmental and public health concern. My favoritism of a plant-based diet does not require me to support bad farming practices.

That is correct. Watch, "what the health" on youtube.

Muy bien

Mostly meat diet saved my life.

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Hello

Do you work for the meat and dairy industry?

No

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My fore father's where all sheep farmers from the east coast of South Africa.

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agree with this so much

You are brainwashed. There's no micronutrient you can can find in animal products that you can't get from plant based products. How do animals get their nutrients? they eat plants. You just get a bunch of other shit that you don't need like exogenous cholesterol.

We evolved as frugivores.

Mike Vlasaty is a Fruitarian that deadlifts 3X his bodyweight. That is something most of meat eating powerlifters can not do.

Ruminids such as cows can't digest plants on their own, in order to get any nutrition from them they have a sophisticated digestive system that is highly adapted to processing plant matter.

Even then the cow doesn't digest the food, it uses highly acidic fluids and bacteria to do that job before any nutrient extraction occurs.

Fibre is indigestible.

The bioavailabilty of plants compared to animals is abismal, even then the vitamins provided by plants are in such low quantities you'd need to constantly eat all day to get anywhere near close the amount the body needs.

You are brainwashed, look at Mike Vlasaty deadlifting 3X his bodyweight on a Fruit based diet.

So what?

Some guy who can lift weights doesn't prove anything about the nutrient deficiency of a plant based diet.

Plus the majority of vegans eventually quit due to their health breakdowns.

Veganism slowly kills you.

We are not frugivores.

https://youtu.be/EFF30jfTubU

Our Digestive systems are much different than those of meat eaters and omnivores. We have a very long digestive system. Meat putrefies by the time it gets through. Carnivores have a much shorter digestive system. Physiologically we are not designed to eat meat. Ours is built like a herbivore.

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Our Digestive tract is 30 Feet in length, don't believe the industry funded not-drawn-to-scale images.

Actually wrong again, we have short digestive tracks more closely aligned to carnivores than our herbivore ancestors.

Those drawings are about as silly as Ernst Hackel's drawings of embryos and prove about as much. If you measure the alimentary canals of humans compared to most carnivores properly, ours are about twice as long.

Bunch of dieticians having a go at each other. Good stuff, the old dietism debate, well done clap for you. How about you all focus on food waste and starving people instead of imposing your beliefs born out of having widely available food choices and ample time to waste your life and energy with holier than thou opinions.

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Those are not drawn to scale, do your own research that isn't tainted. You are looking at all meat and dairy biased drawings and videos.

The drawings on "what the health" are more accurate.

Herbivores eat meat and so do we, keep trying.

http://bit.ly/2sDw3uq

Then don't post anti-meat propaganda films that are designed to highjack the emotional responses of it's viewers to push an agenda; an agenda that wants people sick and infertile.