Your post exemplifies social media at its best. We are both correct. It is our nature as humans to construct societies characterized by liberty and justice, and it is our nature as humans to speak of "human rights" and "animal rights". But how do such words become realized in the societies that we construct? With the threat of lethal force.
IOW, notions of rights, of justice, of liberty, are just that: notions and words and visions of possibilities. To make such visions real, order must be imposed, and that is done by the men, with lethal force.
There are other ways to create order than lethal force.
Indeed, almost all order is created by other means.
That lethal force exists does not obviate rights. Crime exists. There is no doubt of that. Crime is the violation of the rights of another.
Rights are the very basis of human society, and if we have no rights, crime doesn't exist.
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When I look out the window, I see order. That order is imposed by lethal force. Ideas about rights might have entered into the design of that order. But without lethal force, those beautiful ideas would be no more than beautiful ideas in the midst of chaos. (The chaos would be only temporary, because some group of men would come along and impose their own preferred kind of order, which might not be based upon notions of "rights" at all.)
All of the order in human society is ultimately imposed by lethal force. There are no exceptions. If you think you can identify an exception, state it and we will take a look at it.
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Exactly. Force or the threat of force is what props up civilization and makes rights rights.
Here's an example from everyday life. A man may feel himself entitled to a certain level of dignity but that would mean nothing to his fellows if he did not prevail upon them by force, open threat or implicit threat (e.g. quid pro quo) to respect him as a sovereign person.
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Your example does illustrate the point, but is problematic for other reasons. (1) The penal statutes of a territory, combined with the police power, force other men to treat him with dignity. (2) Men who are truly bonded in real community voluntarily respect one another by force of love. (3) Although I dream of a future in which individuals are sovereign, anyone who claims to be sovereign today is delusional.
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To your second point, everything melts against the force of love but is good will love? I'm inclined to say yes, but I wouldn't want all my neighbors confessing their love of me.
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Here's my definition of love:
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